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    are tropinol xp, dcp, bioforge, and x factor advanced banned by ncaa?
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    Originally Posted by fcbarca12 View Post
    are tropinol xp, dcp, bioforge, and x factor advanced banned by ncaa?

    DCP, Bioforge, and XFA are all fine.


    I'm not entirely sure about Tropinol XP. I'm having some trouble figuring out exactly what 25R-Dione Spirost-4-Ene, 6-Dione is. I would ASSUME that it is ok. But if I were you, I would not risk it.
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    Can you test positive for taking c4 in highschool?
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    Originally Posted by RBNATION23 View Post
    Can you test positive for taking c4 in highschool?
    I'm not exactly sure what high school sports drug test for. I'd imagine it would be similar/the same as the NCAA. If that's the case then yes, C4 could cause a positive drug test as it contains Synephrine which is banned by the NCAA.

    I wouldn't take it.

    Also, preworkouts like C4 aren't generally recommended for anyone under 18.
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    Originally Posted by 44bulldog View Post
    I'm not exactly sure what high school sports drug test for. I'd imagine it would be similar/the same as the NCAA. If that's the case then yes, C4 could cause a positive drug test as it contains Synephrine which is banned by the NCAA.

    I wouldn't take it.



    Also, preworkouts like C4 aren't generally recommended for anyone under 18.
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    caffeine restrictions seem weird.. dont understand how they could ban caffeine. cool thread tho.
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    Originally Posted by RBNATION23 View Post
    Okay thanks
    You're welcome.

    Originally Posted by CodyJames21 View Post
    caffeine restrictions seem weird.. dont understand how they could ban caffeine. cool thread tho.

    Caffeine isn't banned. Just restricted. If it's under the threshold of 15mcg/ml then you are fine.
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    What pre workouts are not banned by NCAA? Also is coffee an alternative to taking a pre workout?
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    Originally Posted by RBNATION23 View Post
    What pre workouts are not banned by NCAA? Also is coffee an alternative to taking a pre workout?

    The NCAA doesn't ban specific supplements but rather bans the individual ingredients. Most preworkouts will not contain ingredients banned by the NCAA. There is a list of common preworkouts that do contain banned ingredients in the original post. It is not permitted to recommend preworkouts to someone under 18.


    Yes, some people use coffee as an alternative to taking a preworkout.
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    Originally Posted by 44bulldog View Post
    The NCAA doesn't ban specific supplements but rather bans the individual ingredients. Most preworkouts will not contain ingredients banned by the NCAA. There is a list of common preworkouts that do contain banned ingredients in the original post. It is not permitted to recommend preworkouts to someone under 18.


    Yes, some people use coffee as an alternative to taking a preworkout.
    Where could I find this list?
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    Originally Posted by RBNATION23 View Post
    Where could I find this list?
    The very first post in this thread.
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    "1) Iforce Nutrition Tropinol XP lists Feadogia Agrestis PE which claims to increase testosterone. Elevated testosterone levels could cause a positive drug test. We recommend you do not use products that claim to increase testosterone as these products have a higher likelihood for contamination.
    2) Evomuse Abliderate advanced lists green coffee bean extract, a source of caffeine. Caffeine is a stimulant that is banned by the NCAA at certain levels. This product also lists DHEA. DHEA is an anabolic agent, thus banned by the NCAA.
    3) Iforce Nutrition Conquer lists caffeine, green tea extract, and synephrine. All three are stimulants that are banned by the NCAA (Caffeine at certain levels).
    4) The NCAA does not specifically ban the ingredients listed in Genomyx DCP.
    5) Molecular Nutrition Xfactor advanced lists a proprietary ANABOLIC formula, and also claims to boost testosterone. Elevated testosterone levels could cause a positive drug test. We recommend you do not use products that claim to increase testosterone as these products have a higher likelihood for contamination."


    How long would it take to get there's out of your system?
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    Originally Posted by fcbarca12 View Post
    "1) Iforce Nutrition Tropinol XP lists Feadogia Agrestis PE which claims to increase testosterone. Elevated testosterone levels could cause a positive drug test. We recommend you do not use products that claim to increase testosterone as these products have a higher likelihood for contamination.
    2) Evomuse Abliderate advanced lists green coffee bean extract, a source of caffeine. Caffeine is a stimulant that is banned by the NCAA at certain levels. This product also lists DHEA. DHEA is an anabolic agent, thus banned by the NCAA.
    3) Iforce Nutrition Conquer lists caffeine, green tea extract, and synephrine. All three are stimulants that are banned by the NCAA (Caffeine at certain levels).
    4) The NCAA does not specifically ban the ingredients listed in Genomyx DCP.
    5) Molecular Nutrition Xfactor advanced lists a proprietary ANABOLIC formula, and also claims to boost testosterone. Elevated testosterone levels could cause a positive drug test. We recommend you do not use products that claim to increase testosterone as these products have a higher likelihood for contamination."


    How long would it take to get there's out of your system?


    I'm guessing you emailed someone at the Drug Free Sport/NCAA Drug Test website and these are the responses they provided? They have no clue what they're talking about there.

    1) I wouldn't be worried about the Fadogia Agretis in Tropinol, I would be more concerned with the 25R-Dione Spirost-4-Ene, 6-Dione. I have no idea what the ingredient is and I've tried researching it before and found nothing of relevance. I can't answer your question on that one. Sorry. Maybe try to send "UncleWade" or "vaughntrue" a PM and ask them. They work for iForce.


    2) Abliderate is fine. Caffeine is only banned at certain (very high) levels.


    3) Conquer is a no-go because of the synephrine which is outright banned by the NCAA, not restriced like caffeine. Synephrine likely won't be in your system for more than a week.


    4) Is fine.


    5) X-Factor is 100% fine.
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    Originally Posted by IlliniTrack800m View Post
    very nice post.

    thanks bulldog
    Thank you, and you're welcome.
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    Jacked

    Jacked is no longer banned as they have taken out the dmaa
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    Originally Posted by nolanjacoby3 View Post
    Jacked is no longer banned as they have taken out the dmaa
    Yep.
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    great thread i am glad that in my day there was no drug testing...
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    Originally Posted by brad311 View Post
    great thread i am glad that in my day there was no drug testing...
    Thank you.
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    Originally Posted by RBNATION23 View Post
    Can you test positive for taking c4 in highschool?
    You get D-tested in highschool?
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    Originally Posted by Ausoriginal View Post
    You get D-tested in highschool?
    Yes, many high school sport organizations do drug testing. Mostly for street drugs.
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    The easiest way for athletes to be safe is to take AdvoCare products...they are ALL NCAA approved so you never have to worry about what's in them. And they are extremely effective.
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    Originally Posted by Alexjsq View Post
    Just wondering if test boosters or hormonal controls make you "un-natural" ?
    Natural Test Boosters and Natural Hormonal Controls won't make you "un-natural". Steroids, PHs, HGH, etc. will.
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