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    Pea Protein vs Whey Protein

    Hi all,

    I'm trying to eliminate dairy from my diet and the last thing remaining is my whey protein. Pea protein and whey both have a close protein per serving profile, but i've heard from various posters that pea protein's amino acids and protein do not absorb as well as whey's. Does anybody have any insight on this if it's correct or not? Also, please share any information you know about anything regarding this topic. Thank you in advance, will give reps for contribution.
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    groce, does it taste like peas?
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    Originally Posted by doyoueveneat View Post
    groce, does it taste like peas?
    you can get it flavored and it tastes like flavored whey protein. unflavored whey protein is pretty gross.

    OP - get some rice protein to complete the amino acid profile.
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    op try this screw shakes

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    Originally Posted by MastaM View Post
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    why are you bumping I gave you your answer..
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    It's my understanding that if one is going to rely on plant sources for all their protein needs then the daily requirement number goes up. (In grams for instance) I would have to investigate how far up because my memory isn't serving me well right now! LOL I am sure someone can help or post some information regarding guidelines as to what is close to optimal.
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    Originally Posted by danell21 View Post
    op try this screw shakes

    Perhaps that's not a very good recommendation. Here are the ingredients in that bar:


    INGREDIENTS: WHEY PROTEIN ISOLATE, WHEY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, MILK PROTEIN ISOLATE, MALTITOL, PALM KERNEL OIL, MILK PROTEIN ISOLATE, PEANUT FLOUR, PEANUTS, NONFAT MILK SOLIDS, SOY LECITHIN, SALT, NATURAL FLAVORS, MALTITOL, SWEETENED CONDENSED MILK, HYDROGENATED COCONUT OIL, BUTTER, CORN STARCH, VANILLA EXTRACT, CARAMEL COLOR, GLYCERINE, PEANUTS, WATER, WHEAT FLOUR, SALT, CORN, CANOLA, COTTONSEED, SOYBEAN, CORN SYRUP, SODIUM BICARBONATE, YEAST, SOY PROTEIN ISOLATE, PEANUT FLOUR, PEANUT BUTTER, ISOLATED SOY PROTEIN, TAPIOCA STARCH, SALT, HYDROLYZED COLLAGEN, PALM KERNEL OIL, SOY LECITHIN, DICALCIUM PHOSPHATE, MAGNESIUM PHOSPHATE, DL-ALPHA-TOCOPHEROL ACETATE, ASCORBIC ACID, COPPER GLUCONATE, NIACINAMIDE, VITAMIN A PALMITATE, FERRIC ORTHOPHOSPHATE, BIOTIN, ZINC OXIDE, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE, CYANOCOBALAMIN, FOLIC ACID, MANGANESE SULFATE, CALCIUM D-PANTOTHENATE, RIBOFLAVIN, SODIUM SELENITE, THIAMINE MONONITRATE, FLAX SEED OIL, SALT, POTASSIUM SORBATE
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    Perhaps that's not a very good recommendation. Here are the ingredients in that bar:


    INGREDIENTS: WHEY PROTEIN ISOLATE, WHEY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, MILK PROTEIN ISOLATE, MALTITOL, PALM KERNEL OIL, MILK PROTEIN ISOLATE, PEANUT FLOUR, PEANUTS, NONFAT MILK SOLIDS, SOY LECITHIN, SALT, NATURAL FLAVORS, MALTITOL, SWEETENED CONDENSED MILK, HYDROGENATED COCONUT OIL, BUTTER, CORN STARCH, VANILLA EXTRACT, CARAMEL COLOR, GLYCERINE, PEANUTS, WATER, WHEAT FLOUR, SALT, CORN, CANOLA, COTTONSEED, SOYBEAN, CORN SYRUP, SODIUM BICARBONATE, YEAST, SOY PROTEIN ISOLATE, PEANUT FLOUR, PEANUT BUTTER, ISOLATED SOY PROTEIN, TAPIOCA STARCH, SALT, HYDROLYZED COLLAGEN, PALM KERNEL OIL, SOY LECITHIN, DICALCIUM PHOSPHATE, MAGNESIUM PHOSPHATE, DL-ALPHA-TOCOPHEROL ACETATE, ASCORBIC ACID, COPPER GLUCONATE, NIACINAMIDE, VITAMIN A PALMITATE, FERRIC ORTHOPHOSPHATE, BIOTIN, ZINC OXIDE, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE, CYANOCOBALAMIN, FOLIC ACID, MANGANESE SULFATE, CALCIUM D-PANTOTHENATE, RIBOFLAVIN, SODIUM SELENITE, THIAMINE MONONITRATE, FLAX SEED OIL, SALT, POTASSIUM SORBATE
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    now i expect this from synthetic but thought you would know better.. cmon now
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    Synthetic did give a very good answer in this case OP.

    One question I have is why eliminate dairy?
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    Originally Posted by synthetic View Post
    why are you bumping I gave you your answer..
    I appreciated your reply synthetic and gave you reps. My I wanted to know whether pea (vegetable) protein absorbs as well as milk protein or whey.

    Also, I took your advice and checked out a complete veggie protein powder. Is this a good product:

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/li...ntprotein.html
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    Why are you trying to eliminate dairy from your diet OP?
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    Originally Posted by MastaM View Post
    I appreciated your reply synthetic and gave you reps. My I wanted to know whether pea (vegetable) protein absorbs as well as milk protein or whey.

    Also, I took your advice and checked out a complete veggie protein powder. Is this a good product:

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/li...ntprotein.html
    whey has about a 95% absorption rate where are pea protein by itself is 85% - combining it with a grain type protein (rice, vital wheat gluten) ups it to 90%
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    Originally Posted by Kirra View Post
    Why are you trying to eliminate dairy from your diet OP?
    heh kirra negs me for helping this guy out. Some people dont want dairy in their lives - accept it - it may be religious or whatever, you should be happy, more dairy for you.
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    absorption rate is probably not going to matter, egg protein is almost 100%..

    i get my pea protein flavored like vanilla birthday cake
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    Originally Posted by Kirra View Post
    Why are you trying to eliminate dairy from your diet OP?
    I've been getting a lot of migraines lately as well as been sh*tting a lot of everyday, usually 4 times, since I upped my dairy intake recently. I want to try a no dairy diet for about a month or two and see how I feel. Trial and error I suppose.

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    whey has about a 95% absorption rate where are pea protein by itself is 85% - combining it with a grain type protein (rice, vital wheat gluten) ups it to 90%
    Thanks boss. How does this look? http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/li...ntprotein.html
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    Great Pea/Rice protein shake

    Anyway, here’s my ‘protein shake’ recipe, ingredients placed in this order for best blending:

    • Add a handful of ORGANIC spinach leaves to blender (available at Costco for ~$3.99/lb) You can’t taste the spinach--or at least it gives a clean taste to the shake--plus you’re getting vegetables!
    • Add some walnuts (not too many, they’re packed in calories, but it’s good to eat seeds and nuts with other foods as the fats can increase absorption of good things in the other foods by up to 10x, per a PBS broadcast I just saw with Dr. Fuhrman. “The healthy fats in seeds and nuts also aid in the absorption of nutrients when eaten with vegetables.”
    • Add some ORGANIC pumpkin seeds (I’m presently out. I get them at Ballard Market or PCC.)
    • Add one ORGANIC Brazil nut (Brazil nuts are a great source of selenium, something depleted in much of the soil growing our food, hence people don’t get enough. For men, one Brazil nut a day is a healthful, harmless preventative against prostate issues.
    • Add a cup of Costco’s frozen anti-oxidant ORGANIC fruit mix. It’s a new product selling at 3lbs for $10. That’s about the best price available for frozen (always the most nutritious way to get fruit and vegetables) strawberries, blueberries, pomegranate seeds, cherries.
    • Add two teaspoons Trader Joe’s cocoa. Just discovered it. It sells for $2.49 or 2.99. Keep it in the fridge. It’s American Process, meaning they don’t add alkali. (It’s light colored, which is good.) This has great anti-oxidant, heart-healthy properties. (It’s the ‘good stuff’ in dark chocolate, without all the sugar.)
    • Add one-half scoop of NOW Pea Protein powder. (Not really a noticeable taste, at least for me.) You determine how much in comparison to the rice protein powder. The idea is to balance the two out, each making up for the deficiencies of the other. It might be easy to overdue how much you add. Remember: 1 gram of protein equals four calories (pea and rice protein, some found in the other ingredients; 1 gram of carbs equals four calories (berries, oats, banana); 1 gram of fat equals 9 calories (nuts, seeds, cocoa).
    • Add around one-half to two-thirds scoop (the rice protein doesn’t come with a scoop, so I used the NOW Pea Protein scooper) of NutriBiotic Rice Protein, Vanilla Flavor. (It tastes really good, to me!) The idea is to balance the two out, but not putting in too much protein! (All the ingredients are adding up, calorie-wise.)
    • Add one-third to one-half cup ORGANIC oatmeal, uncooked (OPTIONAL). This adds fiber, clean carbs, cholesterol-reducing oats. It also thickens up the shake. Only downside are that the oatmeal adds a fair number of carbs. Oatmeal also inhibits spikes in blood sugar levels (I recall).
    • Add part of an ORGANIC banana (OPTIONAL). After an upper or lower body workout, the banana may help raise blood sugar levels, which some suggest will help the protein get absorbed better. (While I recall reading this, this article suggests otherwise: {couldn't post link}. Regardless, bananas are pretty nutritional and taste good!
    • Add one-half to full-cup of Whole Foods 365 Unsweetened almond milk (OPTIONAL). It hardly has any calories, tastes good, and fools me into thinking it’s milk! I use it instead of milk for cereal (I make a muesli of organic oats, organic spelt, organic rye (PCC, Whole Foods, or Ballard Market bulk section), organic raisins (Costco), walnuts, frozen organic blueberries and raspberries (Trader Joes, though now I’ll be getting the Costco organic frozen anti-oxidant mix), organic pumpkin seeds, pistachio nuts, etc.)
    • Add one cup or more cold water.
    • Pulse blend at first, then steady to mix ingredients.

    All told, if you balance things out right, you can make a shake that has between 300 to 400 calories, depending on how much stuff you put in it. The nuts and seeds can make a big difference, since they have fat, but fat is important. Not a bad meal, especially right after a strength-training workout. To count calories in foods without a Nutrition Data facts label on the package, see this link: nutritiondata.self.com/ (This site has so much info on every food it’s amazing!)

    Also, for weight control and better long-term health, read up about the glycemic index of foods. It’s one of the most important issues about good health, and most people are unaware of it. (A simple rule for me is: STOP EATING COOKIES, TWIZZLERS LICORICE, and PRETZELS!)

    It’s a good tasting shake! I’m getting back into a Body-for-Life six days of training/six small meals a day regimen in hopes of getting back into shape and losing twenty pounds of recently added fat. I’m about three weeks in and now feel I’m getting ready to cruise into a steady routine. I’ve been working out hard, such that my muscles feel really sore one and two days after my workouts. Maybe the protein shakes will help in recovery. (More sleep would!)
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    Also, for weight control and better long-term health, read up about the glycemic index of foods. It’s one of the most important issues about good health, and most people are unaware of it.
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