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    Trans fat and hydrogenated oil

    Is the fat in Hydrogenated oils trans fat??

    Why does my peanut butter jar say 0 g trans fat when there is hydrogenated vege oils in it?

    (my family bought it, i only buy natural peanut butter! lol)
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    trans fat are essential to testosrone and isulin like growth hormone production
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    Originally Posted by fsd2 View Post
    Is the fat in Hydrogenated oils trans fat??

    Why does my peanut butter jar say 0 g trans fat when there is hydrogenated vege oils in it?

    (my family bought it, i only buy natural peanut butter! lol)

    Yes it's hydrogenated vegetable oil is a synthetic TFA.

    They are allowed to round on the label and say each serving has 0 grams. Just like anything with 5 calories or less can say "zero calories".
    IIFYM - not even once.

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    yeah trans fats are fine as long as your not in a major caloric surplus. Saturated fat is the one you really should watch
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    Originally Posted by danell21 View Post
    yeah trans fats are fine as long as your not in a major caloric surplus. Saturated fat is the one you really should watch
    You're red for a reason. Pls go.
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    To be a bit more precise:

    Partially Hydrogenated oil is synthetic transfat.
    Fully Hydrogenated oil is not transfat.

    If the label only says "Hydrogenated" without the "fully" or "partially", there's a good chance it's "partially". And, as noted, they are allowed to round down the transfat per serving.


    Originally Posted by danell21 View Post
    yeah trans fats are fine as long as your not in a major caloric surplus. Saturated fat is the one you really should watch
    That's extremely wrong.
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    Originally Posted by danell21 View Post
    yeah trans fats are fine as long as your not in a major caloric surplus. Saturated fat is the one you really should watch
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    Originally Posted by danell21 View Post
    yeah trans fats are fine as long as your not in a major caloric surplus. Saturated fat is the one you really should watch
    LoL wut?

    Also, in before rat studies
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    Originally Posted by danell21 View Post
    yeah trans fats are fine as long as your not in a major caloric surplus. Saturated fat is the one you really should watch
    There are two interpretations:

    1) You're trolling.
    2) You're dreadfully misinformed.
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    [QUOTE=Blackjack68;802795761]To be a bit more precise:

    Partially Hydrogenated oil is synthetic transfat.
    Fully Hydrogenated oil is not transfat.

    ah Ok
    For argument sake if the oils were fully hydrogenated would that be bad? because they would be pretty much synthetic saturated fats right?
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    There are two interpretations:

    1) You're trolling.
    2) You're dreadfully misinformed.
    he is right if it is natural transfat - found in dairy, beef, and pork
    as for synthetic transfat it is not fine.

    Originally Posted by Xfaxtor View Post
    LoL wut?

    Also, in before rat studies
    human based transfat study : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22135871
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    Originally Posted by synthetic View Post
    he is right if it is natural transfat - found in dairy, beef, and pork
    as for synthetic transfat it is not fine.
    Reading comprehension: acquire it.
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    Originally Posted by synthetic View Post
    he is right if it is natural transfat - found in dairy, beef, and pork
    as for synthetic transfat it is not fine.
    human based transfat study : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22135871
    Strong study ninja.

    These results suggest that a reduction in consumption of fried foods will be of benefit as it will reduce intake saturated fatty acids. Further studies are recommended to determine the intake of trans fatty acids and their health effects on other population groups in Indonesia.
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    Originally Posted by Xfaxtor View Post
    Strong study ninja.
    These results suggest that a reduction in consumption of fried foods will be of benefit as it will reduce intake saturated fatty acids. Further studies are recommended to determine the intake of trans fatty acids and their health effects on other population groups in Indonesia.
    what wonderpug said to you...
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    Originally Posted by synthetic View Post
    what wonderpug said to you...
    Pretty sure he said it to you. Was that really the best you could do? A study concluding that more studies are needed and one that think sat fats are evil?
    You could always post some more rat studies champ. LoL please stop wasting our time with your BS
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    Originally Posted by synthetic View Post
    human based transfat study : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22135871
    Center for Epidemiological Research & Surveillance, Faculty of Public Health, University of Indonesia, Depok, West Java, Indonesia, 16424

    The high consumption of fried foods is associated with risks of ...
    Every additional one percent of saturated fatty acid intake is associated with an increase in trans fatty acids amounting to...

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    Originally Posted by sawoobley View Post
    Center for Epidemiological Research & Surveillance, Faculty of Public Health, University of Indonesia, Depok, West Java, Indonesia, 16424

    The high consumption of fried foods is associated with risks of ...
    Every additional one percent of saturated fatty acid intake is associated with an increase in trans fatty acids amounting to...

    I'm sure there are better studies to make whatever point you were trying to make...
    Pepper your angus for rat studies.. Any minute now.
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    Originally Posted by Xfaxtor View Post
    Pepper your angus for rat studies.. Any minute now.
    more human studies... http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/pre...s03272007.html


    once again i say though, do not discredit rat studies, unless you are willing to donate your organs for in vivo, or in vitro post mortem studies.
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    Originally Posted by kirra View Post
    came in thread expecting synthetic, was not dissapointed.
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    Originally Posted by synthetic View Post
    what wonderpug said to you...
    Just wow. Pug quoted you regarding reading comprehension and you attribute it to others. Point proven
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    Originally Posted by synthetic View Post
    more human studies... http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/pre...s03272007.html


    once again i say though, do not discredit rat studies, unless you are willing to donate your organs for in vivo, or in vitro post mortem studies.
    The title of the study you linked to is: "Higher Trans Fat Levels in Blood Associated With Elevated Risk of Heart Disease."

    What are you trying to prove and to whom? Since you posted it in a response to Xfaxtor, I'm assuming it's in response to something he said. Are you under the impression that he claimed something about trans fat that he didn't?
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    Just wow. Pug quoted you regarding reading comprehension and you attribute it to others. Point proven
    I think what synthetic was trying to say was "What WonderPug said to me, I say to you." He just needs to work on his delivery a bit.
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    trans fat are essential to testosrone and isulin like growth hormone production
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