caffeine and ephedrine-

[ShannonC_77]

Hey,

I was just wondering what time of the day is best to take these pills? (caffeine and ephedrine) (for fat loss). Has anyone ever taken these before? Did you notice any results? Is it best to take them before you workout? Any info would be great!

Thanks!

[armz_ha]

Hey,

I was just wondering what time of the day is best to take these pills? (caffeine and ephedrine) (for fat loss). Has anyone ever taken these before? Did you notice any results? Is it best to take them before you workout? Any info would be great!

Thanks!

take them 30 minutes before a meal and 30 minutes before you train. This gives you excellent results!!!

[ShannonC_77]

How many times a day should you take them? (how many pills a day?).

Thanks very much for your help!

[armz_ha]

How many times a day should you take them? (how many pills a day?).

Thanks very much for your help!

take no more than 80 mg of ephedra per day. recommended dosage is about 60mg of ephedrine taken 3X per day...

[PhearaZer]

take 1 20mg ephedrine, 1 st. joseph asprin, and 1 caffeine/thermogenic pill three times a day. when you first start out with this you may want to just do it 1 to 2 times a day if your body isn't used to them yet. I use a zantrex-3 as the caffeine therm. and have had great results with this method. What is your bf% and how much do you weigh?

[ShannonC_77]

Hey,

Thanks for your advice! The pills aren't for me, I'm already lean enough for my liking, it's for one of my friends who I've recently been helpling diet down. He's about 195 pounds with about 10% body fat I'd say.

[armz_ha]

Hey,

Thanks for your advice! The pills aren't for me, I'm already lean enough for my liking, it's for one of my friends who I've recently been helpling diet down. He's about 195 pounds with about 10% body fat I'd say.

10% bodyfat is already pretty fairly low, cutting should be ez...

[ShannonC_77]

Hey,

One more question for you guys...the pills he bought have caffeine and ephedrine in them. Do you think he should take aspirin as well? If so, how much aspirin should he take?

Thanks!

[PhearaZer]

Hey,

One more question for you guys...the pills he bought have caffeine and ephedrine in them. Do you think he should take aspirin as well? If so, how much aspirin should he take?

Thanks!

1 st. joseph asprin is enough

[tryfuhl]

take no more than 80 mg of ephedra per day. recommended dosage is about 60mg of ephedrine taken 3X per day...

you mean 180?

and that's more than most people need to start with

25 3 times a day to start and assess sides, along with around 200mg of caffeine ..

[214USN]

1 st. joseph asprin is enough

Why the asprin? Also must you use caffine with ephedrine?

[Lok7y]

Caffeine is critical. Should be a 10:1 ratio of caffeine to ephedrine.

Asprin should be skipped unless you are significantly overweight. There is a study (I'm sure I've posted it before) comparing ECA and E/C in lean and obese females. They found that by thinning the blood, the asprin potentiated the thermogenic effect of E/C in obese females, but did absolutely nothing compared to just E/C in lean females.

[214USN]

what would be a good caffeine supplement?

[bazzi]

Anything with caffeine in it lol, putre caffeine, black coffee if u like the crappy taste.... caffeine pills.... anything...

and to the original poster I think EC works good, i got an ECY going right now and only take 1 pill a day.

Still smells very herbal like when I open the bottle, but it expires in like 3 months because I bought this stuff like a year and a bit ago way before the bann.

It has 5 mg B6, 30mg VIT C, 50mg Magnesium, 300 mg ephedra extract (standarized for 24mg ephiderine), L-Phenylaline 150mg (wasnt to fond of this), L-tryosine 150mg, Caffeine 100mg, Yohimine HCL 2mg.

I take one about 30-60 minutes before I work out, only one. Works good for me, I was doing good before I started taking them, but im doing even better now, especially good for helping get through the 15 minute HIIT tredmill sessions after being on the ellipitcal for 20 minutes.

[Jotun]

you mean 180?

and that's more than most people need to start with

25 3 times a day to start and assess sides, along with around 200mg of caffeine ..

I'm sure he meant 60mg split up over 3 doses during the day, not three separate doses of 60mg each. That would be quite dangerous and I doubt many people would even be able to tolerate that amount.

[frankenstein]

even just 60 mg ep in a day with caffeine is almost impossible to tolerate if your friend is just starting this. tell him to try 20 mg ephed and 200 mg caffeine total per day for quite awhile until he feels like he's not going to jump out of his skin. once he feels like he tolerate more (several weeks) and has stopped bouncing off the walls for 5 minutes, then he can start thinking about 40 mg ephed and 400 caffeine. any higher than 60 mg ephed and he's going to turn into cornholio (from beavis and butthead) and put himself at risk for chest pains, etc. ephed got a bad rap, but it is that too much of a good thing is bad. in this case too. 40 mg ephed/400 caffeine is probably going to be his limit. timing? experimentation is key. never within 4 hours of desired sleeping time.

[ShannonC_77]

Hey,

Thanks for the advice. The pills he's taking actually have 8 mg of ephedrine in them. So should he maybe take 3 of these for the first little while? I never asked him how much caffeine they contain but I'll check into it.

Thanks!

[frankenstein]

if you've ever tried ephedrine, you'd know it's some strong stuff. 8 mg is a strange number. 3 pills should be ok for now if he's 195 lbs.

[PhearaZer]

Why the asprin? Also must you use caffine with ephedrine?

well.... i can't explain it w/o driving you nuts. they chemically combine.... so just try using the caffeine and ephedrine one day, and then the next day use caffeine, ephedrine, and asprin. you'll notice a HUGE difference in the energy produced.

[ShannonC_77]

Hey,

So I originally posted this question to get information for a friend, but I'm starting to think I might benefit from it as well. Like I've been finding myself quite tired throughout the day and could use a little extra energy. The thing is though that I definetely do not need to loose anymore bodyfat and I'm trying to bulk right now (while staying as lean as possible, obviously will put on some fat....). Is it still possible for me to take this for extra energy or should I forget about it since I"m trying to put on weight?

Thanks!

[badboyslayer]

Hey,

So I originally posted this question to get information for a friend, but I'm starting to think I might benefit from it as well. Like I've been finding myself quite tired throughout the day and could use a little extra energy. The thing is though that I definetely do not need to loose anymore bodyfat and I'm trying to bulk right now (while staying as lean as possible, obviously will put on some fat....). Is it still possible for me to take this for extra energy or should I forget about it since I"m trying to put on weight?

Thanks!

Its not a wise idea to use as a long term energy supplement, but many guys myself included take an EC preworkout on the odd occasion where we're fatigued/ dont have the energy to maximise our workout.

[PhearaZer]

Hey,

So I originally posted this question to get information for a friend, but I'm starting to think I might benefit from it as well. Like I've been finding myself quite tired throughout the day and could use a little extra energy. The thing is though that I definetely do not need to loose anymore bodyfat and I'm trying to bulk right now (while staying as lean as possible, obviously will put on some fat....). Is it still possible for me to take this for extra energy or should I forget about it since I"m trying to put on weight?

Thanks!

you won't have to worry about losing any weight if you just take them before you work out. i take ECA an hour or so before i go into the gym and that's it.... strictly for the extra energy to intensify my workout. as long as u can use discipline with it then you won't have any weight loss to worry about (a little bit though). the compound in itself is very addictive so be careful. oh yeah, btw, u'll lose some water weight cuz it's a diuretic.

[ShannonC_77]

Hey,

So should I eat more if I take it just before my workout so I don't loose weight, or will it be okay just to keep everything the same. Also I have some pills called Xtralean, what do you think about those? (if you've ever heard of them). Would they be appropriate to take before I workout?

Thanks!

[PhearaZer]

if u're bulking then eating more is never a bad thing, so go right ahead and do it if you want too. that xtralean stuff doesn't look too bad... 20mg ephedrine/200mg caffeine per serving. take a st. joseph asprin w/it and it should work like a charm. i'd start out with 1 dose a day since u're a newbie to the product. take it when you get up, wait 20 minutes then eat, and then go and lift.

[TurboFat]

Hi new guy here I have some advise.
I'm on an ECA cycle, and I have planed to go on it for 3-4 weeks then take a 1-2 weeks break from it. Because your body get's used to the ECA stack, you could increase the dosage or like me take a break from it. I recommend that you don't use more than 100mg ephedrine, the side effects can get pretty nasty.
My cycle week 1-2/per day: 50mg Ephedrine (pure ephedrine no extract)
200mg caffine pills
500mg Magnesyl(asprin, the aspring has the effect that it makes your blood thinner in simple terms. Why you ask, because that the fatcells can move easier through your body. And remeber the aspring that you use haft to have this quality not every asprin has it. You can ask your pharmacy.)

Cycle week 3-4/per day: 100mg ephdrine
300mg caffine pills
1000mg magnesyl(asprin)
The thing with ECA is ofcourse it helps your fatburn but also pumps you up, the ephedrine has slightly the quality as the aspring it make your blood thinner but the aspring helps that out so you last longer for ex on the stepmaster or some other cardio machine. But remeber you haft to take a break from it.It can get pretty dangerous if you use it for a longer period of time.

[Linkinlog]

Where do you find caffeine pills that are just cafeine. I don't want to order it online b/c the shipping is more than the pills. Any certain brands or anything? I looked at Walgreens and CVS but didn't see anything that was pure caffeine.

[W8isGR8]

Where do you find caffeine pills that are just cafeine. I don't want to order it online b/c the shipping is more than the pills. Any certain brands or anything? I looked at Walgreens and CVS but didn't see anything that was pure caffeine.

**** like no-doze and vivarin(sp?) are just 200mg caffeine tabs

[winger01]

I think no-doz are pure caffeine. You can find caffeine at GNC.

[Leeman]

I have a quick question for you guys, i've always only used an EC stack, so my question is: How much of an advantage is adding asprin to the stack, is it a big advantage or just a little boost???

P.S. sorry ShannonC_77 i'm not trying to hijack your thread

[TurboFat]

Where do you find caffeine pills that are just cafeine. I don't want to order it online b/c the shipping is more than the pills. Any certain brands or anything? I looked at Walgreens and CVS but didn't see anything that was pure caffeine.

you can find it in your local pharmacy...