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    What causes heart disease, stroke, etc.?

    I realized that cholestrol does not exceed by eating a lot of cholesterol.
    What makes him go? What causes heart disease a lot of people die from them?
    Is it carbs, sugars?
    Where can I read more about it?
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    obesity, inactivity, genetics + a bunch of things we dont fully understand yet.


    but its easier to pin the blame on cholesterol and sugar.
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    They are mainly caused by atherosclerosis. Pretty much by bad cholesterol in the blood. (and genetics but we cant control that)

    Blood clots for strokes as well
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    Aspartame, saturated fats, sugary soda and cereal.


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    Originally Posted by hankst View Post
    Aspartame, saturated fats, sugary soda and cereal.


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    you forgot trans fats



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    Originally Posted by GOALKEEPER01 View Post
    I realized that cholestrol does not exceed by eating a lot of cholesterol.
    What makes him go? What causes heart disease a lot of people die from them?
    Is it carbs, sugars?
    Where can I read more about it?
    incorrect. a diet lacking fiber will be influenced by dietary choelsterol, in addition to excessive processed carb and fat intake
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    Originally Posted by AnnieOlson View Post
    you forgot trans fats



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    I believe having an imbalance in your omegas can contribute largely to it. Heart disease is practically unheard of amongst Eskimos whose meals consist of mainly fat and protein.
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    Too many white carbs and grains, not enough fiber, little to no exercise.
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    Originally Posted by mikestenger View Post
    Too many white carbs...
    Do you really think cauliflower is a killer?


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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    Do you really think cauliflower is a killer?


    I made cauliflower mashed potatoes for dinner.. Should I toss them out?
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    I made cauliflower mashed potatoes for dinner.. Should I toss them out?
    According to Mike, yes.
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    Originally Posted by GOALKEEPER01 View Post
    I realized that cholestrol does not exceed by eating a lot of cholesterol.
    What makes him go? What causes heart disease a lot of people die from them?
    Is it carbs, sugars?
    Where can I read more about it?
    A better question than "What is the cause?" is "What are the risk factor? What are the things that people can do or stop doing that make heart attacks and strokes more likely?"

    Cholesterol is a risk factor, but serum cholesterol has nothing to do with your dietary intake of cholesterol from eggs etc. And it is not the overall level of cholesterol that best correlates with heart attack; it is the average particle size of the cholesterol.

    Some risk factors for stroke: Age, high blood pressure, obesity, elevated homocysteine levels, atherosclerosis
    Some preventive measures against stroke: One aspirin a day, B-vitamins (which keep homocysteine in check)
    Some risk factors for heart disease: Age, high blood pressure, obesity, low aerobic fitness, smoking, diabetes, large average particle size of serum cholesterol, high triclycerides, atherosclerosis, omega-3 fatty acids
    Some preventive measures against heart disease: Alcohol at about 10ml a day, one aspirin a day, lowering blood pressure, lowering triglycerides, losing fat, omega-3 fatty acids

    Hope this helps!
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    UR hearts worst enemy Trans Fats, saturated fats, smoking, junk food, sugary desserts

    Originally Posted by GOALKEEPER01 View Post
    I realized that cholestrol does not exceed by eating a lot of cholesterol.
    What makes him go? What causes heart disease a lot of people die from them?
    Is it carbs, sugars?
    Where can I read more about it?
    Siteman Cancer Center, Washington School of Medicine

    http://www.yourdiseaserisk.wustl.edu...=fact_sheet#q4

    How can you prevent it?
    There are many things that you can do to reduce your risk of heart disease, like:
    not smoking
    avoiding second-hand smoke (also called environmental tobacco smoke)
    eating well
    maintaining a healthy weight
    exercising regularly
    avoiding high blood pressure
    treating diabetes but still have elevated risk
    controlling your cholesterol levels

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    http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Gettin...ubHomePage.jsp

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    Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
    http://www.cdc.gov/heartdisease/

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    National Heart Lung and Blood Institute
    http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/public/heart/index.htm
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    Originally Posted by GOALKEEPER01 View Post
    I realized that cholestrol does not exceed by eating a lot of cholesterol.
    What makes him go? What causes heart disease a lot of people die from them?
    Is it carbs, sugars?
    Where can I read more about it?
    Let me just say this, people who develop heart disease may be skinny or fat and they can be in good shape or not. Heart Disease is a preventable eating disease. The good news is it can be reversed if you clean up your diet. If a person has a blocked artery then the only way they can unblock it, is to go to a cardiologist, a heart doctor.

    People who eat foods that contain, Trans fats, saturated fats and hydrogenated fats in them are asking for Heart Disease. The fats act like a glue that sticks to the insides of your blood vessels. Then the other food particles get stuck to that “fat glue” and it can block an artery completely.

    They call it a “Blocked Artery” when the blood can’t pass through the vein. When your blood vessels get blocked to the point that the blood can’t pass through or is highly restricted, that’s when it causes heart attacks and strokes.

    If a person smokes then the nicotine and tar stick to the blockage and it becomes like “Velcro” and everything sticks to it and blocks the artery even faster. A cardiologist described it that way.

    I know a skinny guy who ate poorly and he blocked one of his heart arteries by 90% and it cost him about $65 grand for the doctors and hospital stay, to fix it. He smoked and was a sugarholic and he thought he was tough guy. He told me he needed the full fat food products because he was skinny and worked really hard, wrong. The funny thing is my friend thought he was a picture of health and to look at him, anyone else might have thought that too. He was in great physical shape with overall good muscle tone.

    I was there when he keeled over with excruciating pain clutching his chest. He’s getting well and he definitely got scared straight. The first thing he did after getting out of the hospital was start taking a prescription drug called CHANTIX and stopped smoking. Then he went on a heart healthy diet.

    One year later he’s still seeing the doctor and on medications. I can tell you one thing he’s not eating the full fat foods anymore or ones that have Trans fats, saturated fats or hydrogenated fats and he reads the food labels to make sure they aren’t in anything he eats. He told me that while he was in the hospital, they gave him morphine for the pain after they put in his heart stint. He said that it still wasn’t enough to stop the pain.
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    Originally Posted by TooHigh View Post
    Some risk factors for heart disease: Age, high blood pressure, obesity, low aerobic fitness, smoking, diabetes, large average particle size of serum cholesterol, high triclycerides, atherosclerosis, omega-3 fatty acids...
    Isn't it the smaller LDL particles that tend to form arterial plaques? If you have the larger kind it is actually more beneficial.
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    The total amount of fat you eat, whether high or low, isn't really linked with disease. What really matters is the type of fat you eat.

    The "bad" fats—saturated and trans fats—increase the risk for certain diseases. The "good" fats—monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats—lower disease risk. The key to a healthy diet is to substitute good fats for bad fats—and to avoid trans fats.
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    Originally Posted by Ed_Hitchens View Post
    Isn't it the smaller LDL particles that tend to form arterial plaques? If you have the larger kind it is actually more beneficial.
    I've read that foods don't break down completely in the stomach and some partial pass through blood vessels. Foods like oatmeal can actually break off plaque from the artery walls.

    More on trans fats:

    Harvard School of Public Health
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    Boston, MA--Over the course of the last decade, numerous studies have examined the relationship between the consumption of trans fatty acids found in partially hydrogenated oils and coronary heart disease (CHD). A comprehensive review of the scientific evidence confirms that eating trans fatty acids increases the risk of CHD.
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    Heart failure

    Heart failure, also known as congestive heart failure (CHF), means your heart can't pump enough blood to meet your body's needs. Over time, conditions such as narrowed arteries in your heart (coronary artery disease) or high blood pressure gradually leave your heart too weak or stiff to fill and pump efficiently.

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    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/cho...-ratio/AN01761

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    Are chicken eggs good or bad for my cholesterol?
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    Trans fat is double trouble for your heart health
    Trans fat raises your "bad" (LDL) cholesterol and lowers your "good" (HDL) cholesterol. Find out more about trans fat and how to avoid it.
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/trans-fat/CL00032
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    Aspartame, saturated fats, sugary soda and cereal.


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    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20071648

    CONCLUSIONS:

    A meta-analysis of prospective epidemiologic studies showed that there is no significant evidence for concluding that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD or CVD. More data are needed to elucidate whether CVD risks are likely to be influenced by the specific nutrients used to replace saturated fat.
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    High blood pressure, too much sodium (if you're salt sensitive like me), not enough potassium, bad chlestorol, lack of exercise. my mom had a stroke a few months ago. I also have high blood pressure. its very common in african americans, but not uncommon for everyone else.
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    Originally Posted by oskarhul09 View Post
    I don't trust the government or their studies.

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    Dietary fats explained

    Types of Fat

    Saturated fats raise your LDL ("bad") cholesterol level. High LDL cholesterol puts you at risk for heart attack, stroke, and other major health problems. You should avoid or limit foods that are high in saturated fats.

    •Keep saturated fats to only 10% of your total daily calories.

    •Foods with a lot of saturated fats are animal products, such as butter, cheese, whole milk, ice cream, cream, and fatty meats.

    •Some vegetable oils -- coconut, palm, and palm kernel oils -- also contain saturated fats. These fats are solid at room temperature.

    •A diet high in saturated fat increases cholesterol build up in your arteries (blood vessels). Cholesterol is a soft, waxy substance that can cause clogged, or blocked, arteries.




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    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/fat/NU00262
    Harmful dietary fat

    The two main types of potentially harmful dietary fat:

    Saturated fat. This is a type of fat that comes mainly from animal sources of food. Saturated fat raises total blood cholesterol levels and low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol levels, which can increase your risk of cardiovascular disease. Saturated fat may also increase your risk of type 2 diabetes.

    Trans fat. This is a type of fat that occurs naturally in some foods, especially foods from animals. But most trans fats are made during food processing through partial hydrogenation of unsaturated fats. This process creates fats that are easier to cook with and less likely to spoil than are naturally occurring oils. These trans fats are called industrial or synthetic trans fats. Research studies show that synthetic trans fat can increase unhealthy LDL cholesterol and lower healthy high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol. This can increase your risk of cardiovascular disease.

    Most fats that have a high percentage of saturated fat or trans fat are solid at room temperature. Because of this, they're typically referred to as solid fats. They include beef fat, pork fat, shortening, stick margarine and butter.
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    Originally Posted by 1qazxsw22 View Post
    I don't trust the government or their studies.

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    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/fat/NU00262
    Harmful dietary fat

    The two main types of potentially harmful dietary fat:

    Saturated fat. This is a type of fat that comes mainly from animal sources of food. Saturated fat raises total blood cholesterol levels and low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol levels, which can increase your risk of cardiovascular disease. Saturated fat may also increase your risk of type 2 diabetes.

    Trans fat. This is a type of fat that occurs naturally in some foods, especially foods from animals. But most trans fats are made during food processing through partial hydrogenation of unsaturated fats. This process creates fats that are easier to cook with and less likely to spoil than are naturally occurring oils. These trans fats are called industrial or synthetic trans fats. Research studies show that synthetic trans fat can increase unhealthy LDL cholesterol and lower healthy high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol. This can increase your risk of cardiovascular disease.

    Most fats that have a high percentage of saturated fat or trans fat are solid at room temperature. Because of this, they're typically referred to as solid fats. They include beef fat, pork fat, shortening, stick margarine and butter.
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    Originally Posted by 1qazxsw22 View Post
    I don't trust the government or their studies.
    The data that study is based on was not done by the government but by various researchers throughout the world. It is a collection and interpretation of a bunch of available data. Anyone can search the databases and find the studies they used to develop their conclusions and come to the same conclusion. It's not a conspiracy bro.
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    Originally Posted by 1qazxsw22 View Post
    I don't trust the government or their studies.

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    http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...ons/000104.htm
    Dietary fats explained

    Types of Fat

    Saturated fats raise your LDL ("bad") cholesterol level. High LDL cholesterol puts you at risk for heart attack, stroke, and other major health problems. You should avoid or limit foods that are high in saturated fats.
    •Keep saturated fats to only 10% of your total daily calories.
    •Foods with a lot of saturated fats are animal products, such as butter, cheese, whole milk, ice cream, cream, and fatty meats.
    •Some vegetable oils -- coconut, palm, and palm kernel oils -- also contain saturated fats. These fats are solid at room temperature.
    •A diet high in saturated fat increases cholesterol build up in your arteries (blood vessels). Cholesterol is a soft, waxy substance that can cause clogged, or blocked, arteries.




    ----

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/fat/NU00262
    Harmful dietary fat

    The two main types of potentially harmful dietary fat:

    Saturated fat. This is a type of fat that comes mainly from animal sources of food. Saturated fat raises total blood cholesterol levels and low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol levels, which can increase your risk of cardiovascular disease. Saturated fat may also increase your risk of type 2 diabetes.

    Trans fat. This is a type of fat that occurs naturally in some foods, especially foods from animals. But most trans fats are made during food processing through partial hydrogenation of unsaturated fats. This process creates fats that are easier to cook with and less likely to spoil than are naturally occurring oils. These trans fats are called industrial or synthetic trans fats. Research studies show that synthetic trans fat can increase unhealthy LDL cholesterol and lower healthy high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol. This can increase your risk of cardiovascular disease.

    Most fats that have a high percentage of saturated fat or trans fat are solid at room temperature. Because of this, they're typically referred to as solid fats. They include beef fat, pork fat, shortening, stick margarine and butter.
    ^^ I agree. The same government that approved chicken feed with traces of arsenic. I'm good.
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