Military Personnel. Jack 3D banned as of 01 JAN 12

[LiL USMC BBer]

Great stuff I know....

Check with your unit SACO section about Jack3D. I'm assuming it has to do with the 1,3 DMAA in it.

Was just informed by our Bn SACO. After 01 January 2012, if its seen in your system, disciplinary action and/or administrative proceedings can/will take place.

[Gmoney112]

Scapegoat!

[An Inconvenient Bro]

what will we all do without arginine?

[kenny878]

oooh nooo

no more jack three d? nooooo

[sloop]

Great stuff I know....

Check with your unit SACO section about Jack3D. I'm assuming it has to do with the 1,3 DMAA in it.

Was just informed by our Bn SACO. After 01 January 2012, if its seen in your system, disciplinary action and/or administrative proceedings can/will take place.

What exactly is "it"?

[allieninja]

Great time for the troops to start using Fierce

[Big_Spaz]

Just get some Ergopump and call it a day







-Spaz

[Hawks58]

Is this for the Corps or everyone? I haven't heard anything about Jack3d being banned in the Army. And I'm guessing they are banning 1,3...don't really think they could check for a specific pre-wo in your system unless they ran some fancy spectrum analysis of each ingredient in your blood stream or some ****.

Atleast if it's true I don't have to try and convince people that just because the PX GNC sales JACK3d means it's good.......

[powercage]

[PlatinumMuscle]

Don't you guys use "Go" pills? Which are pretty much amphetamines?

[LiL USMC BBer]

Is this for the Corps or everyone? I haven't heard anything about Jack3d being banned in the Army. And I'm guessing they are banning 1,3...don't really think they could check for a specific pre-wo in your system unless they ran some fancy spectrum analysis of each ingredient in your blood stream or some ****.

Atleast if it's true I don't have to try and convince people that just because the PX GNC sales JACK3d means it's good.......

Not sure if its even the Corps doing it or just my Bn. I know the Army is doing a study on 1,3 however due to two Soldiers dieing during PT. But consider how many 100's of thousands of Marines, Soldiers, Airmen, and Sailors get the piss ran out of them in 100+ degree weather and are fine. The two that did die I think it was due to some other kind of underlying medical condition.

I completly agree with you though. I tell my Marines all the time, just becuase its on the shelf, at the PX, doesn't mean nothin.

[The-Pikey]

its military wide, the army surgeon general banned jack3d and hemorage. the GNC here already took it off the shelves

[Kadisha]

Not sure if its even the Corps doing it or just my Bn. I know the Army is doing a study on 1,3 however due to two Soldiers dieing during PT. But consider how many 100's of thousands of Marines, Soldiers, Airmen, and Sailors get the piss ran out of them in 100+ degree weather and are fine. The two that did die I think it was due to some other kind of underlying medical condition.

I completly agree with you though. I tell my Marines all the time, just becuase its on the shelf, at the PX, doesn't mean nothin.

Typical knee-jerk reaction from the Army and the military in general. I have used Jack3d to be honest, and my friend back in the rear told me that it has been banned. Yet, they keep NO-Xplode on the shelves, and down range. How does that even make sense? If they're going to start banning PWO because it kills stupid privates then they should ban them all together.

At the same time, what about the countless different kinds of diet pills they sell at GNC and in the PX back home and downrange? At least be damn consistent.

[NasGhost]

Don't you guys use "Go" pills? Which are pretty much amphetamines?

Fighter pilots use them

[Hawks58]

its military wide, the army surgeon general banned jack3d and hemorage. the GNC here already took it off the shelves

When did you hear this? According to everything I see it is just banned for sale at PX's. Not taking. I'm sure there are plenty of coc's saying it is banned all together though. And noone has come out and said anything (like with spice) and everyone I asked has said it's just not for sale at PX anymore.

http://www.sg.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123284707
http://www.armytimes.com/offduty/hea...helves-122911/

[GarageLifting]

Next thing you know whey protein will be banned too.

[TMac26]

Fighter pilots use them

It's not limitedto just them.

Special forces use them as well.

[afbrah]

from what i have seen its not banned ....got no notices stating it was banned nor is it on the current air force ban list....just hte exchanges have pulled it all and on base GNC's cause of people taking half a bottle before pt and dieing or something retarded they did.....everything with 1/3 dimeth runnin from neurocore to lipo 6 and including jack3d.......

[Kadisha]

Next thing you know whey protein will be banned too.

It's already banned in some schools, like Airborne school. The reason I was told was that it dehydrates you. Then again with as much water as they make you drink at that school I'm pretty sure that would be impossible. But then again personal responsibility is something lacking in today's military and society in general.

It's not limitedto just them.

Special forces use them as well.

Really home skillet? Where did you get that information from? Don't spread rumors.

[matt_nyc]

hm..do you think they will add this test to the UAs?

[matt_nyc]

Typical knee-jerk reaction from the Army and the military in general. I have used Jack3d to be honest, and my friend back in the rear told me that it has been banned. Yet, they keep NO-Xplode on the shelves, and down range. How does that even make sense? If they're going to start banning PWO because it kills stupid privates then they should ban them all together.

At the same time, what about the countless different kinds of diet pills they sell at GNC and in the PX back home and downrange? At least be damn consistent.

yeah those dumb privates who will do anything to lose a couple of lbs before a weight and tape..instead of going the healthy route

[Kadisha]

yeah those dumb privates who will do anything to lose a couple of lbs before a weight and tape..instead of going the healthy route

Let's be honest here, and I don't mean to derail the thread, but does the military and the Army in the specific promote healthy eating habits? No, not at all. All we have to do is take a walk through any DFAC, since they all generally serve the same food, and it's pretty much starches and fried food. Don't get me started on the lack of fruit, fresh vegetables, and healthy main line options other than maybe grilled chicken once in a while.

Then comes the PT regimen. Yeah now they have PRT, and it's suppose to be more advanced and whatever, but it's still not intense as it should be. Then you have battalions or companies that simply focus on running. Fatty lagging in the back is not going to be able to keep up, so what happens? They council him instead of placing him in a personalized PT program put together by his NCO or the PT NCO. I'm going on and on here, but I'm pretty sure my point has been made.

[Hawks58]

hm..do you think they will add this test to the UAs?

It's not banned, why would it be added to the UAs? And than it comes down to cost/benefit for the Army.

EDIT: And to Kadisha. Agree 100% on that. The Army really has a poor habit of teaching people proper eating habits. And is too quick to label someone a pos for failing at running at a pace instead of helping that person out and maybe just giving them the nudge or two they need.

Don't get me wrong though, there are some fattys that just need the axe and get out.

[asianbrutha]

Let's be honest here, and I don't mean to derail the thread, but does the military and the Army in the specific promote healthy eating habits? No, not at all. All we have to do is take a walk through any DFAC, since they all generally serve the same food, and it's pretty much starches and fried food. Don't get me started on the lack of fruit, fresh vegetables, and healthy main line options other than maybe grilled chicken once in a while.

Then comes the PT regimen. Yeah now they have PRT, and it's suppose to be more advanced and whatever, but it's still not intense as it should be. Then you have battalions or companies that simply focus on running. Fatty lagging in the back is not going to be able to keep up, so what happens? They council him instead of placing him in a personalized PT program put together by his NCO or the PT NCO. I'm going on and on here, but I'm pretty sure my point has been made.

In my 20+ years of military and DOD service, including now in Kuwait, every DFAC I've ever been in has had a salad bar stocked with fruits, vegetables, tuna, cold slices, etc. Also, there is are sandwich bars where you can order wraps.

[dsgb610]

I ****ing hate Jack3d.. I still have a practically brand new tub just sitting here I took a single serving and it kept me up for 2 days!!!!! After doing the research I could see the ban coming just wondering why it didn't happen sooner.... after all it was banned in Canada and a few other countries, you would think the military would adhere to a slightly higher standard by at least no sell it on base.

[dsgb610]

would like to see instruction though OP that way I could put it out to my troops lol Sailors..

[joefortin25]

Great stuff I know....

Check with your unit SACO section about Jack3D. I'm assuming it has to do with the 1,3 DMAA in it.

Was just informed by our Bn SACO. After 01 January 2012, if its seen in your system, disciplinary action and/or administrative proceedings can/will take place.

This was the biggest reason I started taking Ninja by Z-Elite Nutrition in the first place. No banned substances by any organization. I could not pass when I saw that. That could always change later I guess, but apparently they are pretty "natural" in their ingredients.

[ProWrestleFan]

Don't you guys use "Go" pills? Which are pretty much amphetamines?

Yes

It's not limitedto just them.

Special forces use them as well.

This

hm..do you think they will add this test to the UAs?

No

[ScivationLead]

So much false info. Products containing 1-3 cannot be sold on base as of tomorrow. That is it. Why do people spread false rumors?

[mejiaiii]

I work for aafes and we pulled it out of all the gncs and exchanges back in Dec due to 1,3. Not just jacked but anything with 1,3.