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    Originally Posted by comps View Post
    How could someone even say "above 8 reps is unwise".
    Focusing on TUT is just as important as MMC.
    Do both, and 30 reps can give the same results as 8 reps.
    So MMC=TUT>>>Rep ranges FOR BODYBUILDING?
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    Originally Posted by comps View Post
    How could someone even say "above 8 reps is unwise".
    Focusing on TUT is just as important as MMC.
    Do both, and 30 reps can give the same results as 8 reps.
    There comes a point where your TUT is too high so that the weight you're using simply isn't enough to induce anything other than a bit of sarcoplasmic hypertrophy. At that point it just becomes endurance training. I doubt 30 rep sets will give you the same results as 8 rep sets in terms of hypertrophy.
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    Originally Posted by UngeneticAzn View Post
    There comes a point where your TUT is too high so that the weight you're using simply isn't enough to induce anything other than a bit of sarcoplasmic hypertrophy. At that point it just becomes endurance training. I doubt 30 rep sets will give you the same results as 8 rep sets in terms of hypertrophy.
    It all depends on how you go about it.
    A perfect example of this is strangeclouds lol.

    If I do one 30 rep set with a 1/0/1 tempo, who is to say that it is worse the 3x8 with a 1/0/2 tempo?
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    Originally Posted by comps View Post
    It all depends on how you go about it.
    A perfect example of this is strangeclouds lol.

    If I do one 30 rep set with a 1/0/1 tempo, who is to say that it is worse the 3x8 with a 1/0/2 tempo?

    Wow...why'd you get negged so hard brah? And I think I agree with Azn here.
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    I dont think that going above 8 is unwise per say, but personally the size gains relative to strength gains is ever diminishing returns above 10 really.

    And comps, I get what you're saying and it makes perfect sense, everything in moderation and balance is great. However, 1 set of 30 is not the best example because then the activity goes from being anaerobic to aerobic and you dont get any significant size gains from that either. I'd say sets of 12 is the highest to go, full stop (barring drop sets or sets to failure) when you're bodybuilding. Anything above that and you'll be struggling to create an adaptation IMO
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    Originally Posted by Teenwolf2 View Post
    I dont think that going above 8 is unwise per say, but personally the size gains relative to strength gains is ever diminishing returns above 10 really.

    And comps, I get what you're saying and it makes perfect sense, everything in moderation and balance is great. However, 1 set of 30 is not the best example because then the activity goes from being anaerobic to aerobic and you dont get any significant size gains from that either. I'd say sets of 12 is the highest to go, full stop (barring drop sets or sets to failure) when you're bodybuilding. Anything above that and you'll be struggling to create an adaptation IMO
    I've never been a fan of labeling rep ranges.

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    Strong military press in your previous workout!
    Thanks brah! Favourite exercise for sure. Strong bench for a 16 year old! I deadlift almost as much as you and you still bench 60 more lbs lol.
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    Wow...why'd you get negged so hard brah? And I think I agree with Azn here.
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    Moderator negged me for cursing.
    Da fuq?
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    I then proceeded to post porn and asked for a one month ban. They deleted my thread O.o

    Whatever, I want to keep my log going. Don't plan on posting much in TBB though.
    Lulz such a badass comps.

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    Please elaborate
    As in stop talking about stuff i dont really understand and get back to my awesome deload logs
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    DELOAD Week 21-4/30/12

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    Bench

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    Deload Week 21-5/2/12

    Workout B:SS

    Squat

    110x5/5/5

    Good form. Even doing 3x5 of this gets quite the sweat going. Its not like these are SUPER easy.

    Military Press

    75x5/5/5

    Pretty good. So I think next week I am going for 125-3x5 IIRC.

    Pendlay Rows

    95x5/5/5

    Good form. Wasn't too easy either.

    Chin Ups

    +10x5/5/5

    Wow these were pretty hard for only 10lbs. . Really focused on going all the way down and MMC.

    Overall good workout. This has kind of been a hypertrophy sort of week in that I am really tuned in during the exercise and not just going through the motion. I am up to 163lbs! Pretty great! So that is a 12lb gain in 21 weeks. .57lb/week. Seems most of it is muscle.
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    That's smart training man, great job. I'm up to 170, catch me if you can
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    Originally Posted by Teenwolf2 View Post
    That's smart training man, great job. I'm up to 170, catch me if you can
    Yea I forgot to update: my back is feeling much better. Will probably be 100% by next week. I injured my elbow on friday. Had to ice it and sling it seems to be all better though after 1 day of rest though.

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    What happened to your back/elbow? Did I miss something?
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    Originally Posted by UngeneticAzn View Post
    What happened to your back/elbow? Did I miss something?
    Back has been hurting a bit whenever I bend over ever since that 325 DL. Elbow is new. Just tweaked it a bit from bench ( maybe deadlifts too). Its not 100% yet but hopefully by Tue. it will be fine.
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    Deload Week 21-5/4/12

    Workout A:SS

    Squat (Barbell) 115 lbs 5 reps
    Squat (Barbell) 115 lbs 5 reps
    Squat (Barbell) 115 lbs 5 reps

    Bench Press (Barbell) 105 lbs 5 reps
    Bench Press (Barbell) 105 lbs 5 reps
    Bench Press (Barbell) 105 lbs 5 reps

    Deadlift (Barbell) 155 lbs 5 reps

    Tricep Dip 8 reps +20
    Tricep Dip 8 reps +20

    New layout. I can just import my workouts from my Ipod to my laptop so I'm going to do that from now on because it is quicker.

    Overall good workout. Felt it on the squats. This is the workout in which I injured my elbow.
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    Week 22-5/9/12

    Workout B:SS

    Squat (Barbell) 185 lbs 5
    Squat (Barbell) 185 lbs 5
    Squat (Barbell) 185 lbs 5

    Standing Military Press 125 lbs 5
    Standing Military Press 125 lbs 5
    Standing Military Press 125 lbs 4

    Pendlay Rows 160 lbs 5
    Pendlay Rows 160 lbs 5
    Pendlay Rows 160 lbs 5

    Chin Up 5 +25
    Chin Up 5
    Chin Up 5

    If you don't understand the new layout just ask brahs

    First workout since deload week. Squats were hard as fuark. Either my form was really phucked up before or I was not hitting anywhere close to parallel because I cant see myself doing 2 plates...not sure what is happening. Oh well. I am still doing the pause at the bottom so maybe that makes it alot harder. I'll try to get a form check.

    Military.......................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .............idonteven............................ .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. last rep I will get this next week, no need to worry! Working my way up to 1 plate for reps!

    Rows were good. Form broke down a bit but I think I am benefiting from this reset.

    Chin ups were really good. Lets go +30. Going down all the way unlike before where I would just go to like 110 instead of 180 degrees.

    Overall great workout. Not mad about the military because I know I can get it next time. I did go pretty hard on that as I almost snapped some **** up.
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    Elbow update:

    In a tensor bandage right now. It was feeling good until today where I was an idiot and benched 175x2...That phucked up my elbow again. Gotta take it easy. Just pain. Bench day tomorrow. We will see how it goes in the warm ups, then I'll decide to go heavy or not. I will have from THURS to MON to rest so even if I do feel some pain after tomorrow's bench I have lots of rest time.

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    You injured your elbow benching 105? Que?
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    Originally Posted by comps View Post
    Was searching your thread because I KNEW that you squatted in the 200s.
    If you are doing TRUE MP then your shoulders are almost/as strong as mine lol. How is the ROM?
    Yea I went all the way up to 230 I think....

    And yes it's a true MP. No leg drive. ROM is 100 I'm pretty sure. Will get video so yo guys don't think I am e-statting
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    Originally Posted by UngeneticAzn View Post
    You injured your elbow benching 105? Que?

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    Not sure if it was necessarily from that exercise. It could have been some kind of overuse because it feels like a tendon. Its not a muscle and I don't think it's a bone But yea it started hurting after the bench that day. I doubt it would be just from that 105 though.
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    You can see the elbow here. Fuarked up. Hurt quite a bit after today's bench. Feeling fine now. This was first set.
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    You need a bigger arch IMO
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    Originally Posted by rasse226 View Post
    You need a bigger arch IMO
    Yea you guys keep saying this but my back is already tight as ****. I dont think i can arch anymore really. Ima go into the gym and practice unracking the bar and getting a bigger arch in 30 mins
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