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    direct ab work

    Other than absurd amounts of sit ups and the roatation of punching in boxing and the occasional plank i'v never really done direct ab work.
    who here does direct ab work, what do you do, what rep range, and do you think it has helped your abs appearence

    note: all this is assuming your lean to begin with, this isnt some spot reducing bull
    You are not a fragile ornament ready to collapse into an exhausted mass of goo simply because you squatted more than once in a 7-day week.

    It'd be like preparing your entire life to bang 100 chicks in a row, getting tan, hitting the gym, making sure your hair looks right and reading the Kama Sutra, only to realize when you get there that you're gay and cannot get hard in the presence of women.
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    These twice a day for 10 minutes a day, preferably a busy place. You'll thank me later....hello ABS!
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    Rope crunches, 8-12. Idk if it really helped the appearance that much, but definitely improved the core strength. Maybe made my abs look slightly more bulgy.
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    you are better off doing anti-flexion and anti-extension exercises imo
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    Originally Posted by midcoastking33 View Post
    you are better off doing anti-flexion and anti-extension exercises imo
    so like planks? please expand.
    You are not a fragile ornament ready to collapse into an exhausted mass of goo simply because you squatted more than once in a 7-day week.

    It'd be like preparing your entire life to bang 100 chicks in a row, getting tan, hitting the gym, making sure your hair looks right and reading the Kama Sutra, only to realize when you get there that you're gay and cannot get hard in the presence of women.
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    Originally Posted by TomBremner View Post
    so like planks? please expand.
    Ab rollers, Leg Raises, and Heavy compounds is all I do.
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    Originally Posted by TomBremner View Post
    so like planks? please expand.
    ya planks, rotations, standing ab wheel, cable chops. for flexion/extension i think hanging knee raises are superior to crunches or sit-ups but that's speculation

    bottom line if your big lifts are going up, your core is going to develop alongside them. cuts and shape are going to come down to body fat percentage and genetics primarily
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    Originally Posted by midcoastking33 View Post
    ya planks, rotations, standing ab wheel, cable chops. for flexion/extension i think hanging knee raises are superior to crunches or sit-ups but that's speculation

    bottom line if your big lifts are going up, your core is going to develop alongside them. cuts and shape are going to come down to body fat percentage and genetics primarily
    completly agree witht he last part, i think ab shape is mostly genetic, and yeah i agree with the leg raises.
    You are not a fragile ornament ready to collapse into an exhausted mass of goo simply because you squatted more than once in a 7-day week.

    It'd be like preparing your entire life to bang 100 chicks in a row, getting tan, hitting the gym, making sure your hair looks right and reading the Kama Sutra, only to realize when you get there that you're gay and cannot get hard in the presence of women.
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    Originally Posted by midcoastking33 View Post
    ya planks, rotations, standing ab wheel, cable chops. for flexion/extension i think hanging knee raises are superior to crunches or sit-ups but that's speculation

    bottom line if your big lifts are going up, your core is going to develop alongside them. cuts and shape are going to come down to body fat percentage and genetics primarily
    My abs were sore from last squat day, 5 sets of box squats 2 reps and 3 sets regular 5 reps.
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    Originally Posted by etopetrovich View Post
    My abs were sore from last squat day, 5 sets of box squats 2 reps and 3 sets regular 5 reps.
    Same, squat and deadlift = sore abs.

    I'm a little hesistant about weighted crunches and sit ups. On one hand they definitely hit the ra, but on the other hand they can shorten them. we all sit at desks/computers a lot so anything reinforcing poor posture should be looked at. i know that's not a bodybuilder answer, but i'd like to think an upright, long abdomen would be superior aesthetically to a shortened one pulled forward
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    Originally Posted by midcoastking33 View Post
    Same, squat and deadlift = sore abs.

    I'm a little hesistant about weighted crunches and sit ups. On one hand they definitely hit the ra, but on the other hand they can shorten them. we all sit at desks/computers a lot so anything reinforcing poor posture should be looked at. i know that's not a bodybuilder answer, but i'd like to think an upright, long abdomen would be superior aesthetically to a shortened one pulled forward
    That would be nice, but if you look at anyone who puts up impressive compound lift numbers, their abs are pretty massive. I never wear a belt on any compounds, need all the core strength i can get.
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    -Weighted Crunches (note, not a sit up where you're using literally all hips) on a fit-ball bro [srs] 2-4 serts of 6-8 reps
    Like this, but a bit more controlled than this guy.


    -Reverse Crunches ... literally the only think I 'feel' in the lower abs 1-3 sets of 10-15 reps


    or
    -Weighted Leg raises actually trying to engage abs and again not just swinging hips or reverse crunches 1-3 sets of 10-15 reps


    Stability ones
    -Planks or Ab roll-outs
    -Pallof Press.


    Yes, substantially helps my abs appearance.
    Don't do direct oblique work myself as don't want that ish wide.
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    I think it was the Do you even lift thread, but one of the threads on here a lot of people were talking about the ab roller, so I decided to try it Friday after my leg day. Did 4 sets of 10 from my knees, after I finished I was like wow that didn't even hurt. Next morning woke up and FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU abs are burning, idk if it will help my ab definition or anything, but I like feeling the burn so I'm gonna keep doing them
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    I don't do direct ab work and I have bad abs and lower back issues. I need to start.
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    Originally Posted by Hormel View Post
    I think it was the Do you even lift thread, but one of the threads on here a lot of people were talking about the ab roller, so I decided to try it Friday after my leg day. Did 4 sets of 10 from my knees, after I finished I was like wow that didn't even hurt. Next morning woke up and FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU abs are burning, idk if it will help my ab definition or anything, but I like feeling the burn so I'm gonna keep doing them
    This is full-retard...standing ab roll-outs with 80lb vest?!?
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    Bicycle kick's help but the burn is extreme after a while.
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    Originally Posted by foodpr0n View Post
    This is full-retard...standing ab roll-outs with 80lb vest?!?
    Gonna try standing ab rollouts on tuesday on my lower day , im expecting Wed for my stomach to be on fire
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    Originally Posted by foodpr0n View Post
    This is full-retard...standing ab roll-outs with 80lb vest?!?
    Brb

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    Originally Posted by etopetrovich View Post
    Brb

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    Amazing, but standing is SO much harder.
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    anybody do oblique work? like rotational things or whatever?
    You are not a fragile ornament ready to collapse into an exhausted mass of goo simply because you squatted more than once in a 7-day week.

    It'd be like preparing your entire life to bang 100 chicks in a row, getting tan, hitting the gym, making sure your hair looks right and reading the Kama Sutra, only to realize when you get there that you're gay and cannot get hard in the presence of women.
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    Originally Posted by etopetrovich View Post
    Rope crunches, 8-12. Idk if it really helped the appearance that much, but definitely improved the core strength. Maybe made my abs look slightly more bulgy.
    Heavy compounds and rope crunches for me. I only do ab work for core strength to help my lifts.

    Originally Posted by TomBremner View Post
    anybody do oblique work? like rotational things or whatever?
    Most oblique work will make your waist wider so I don't do it anymore.
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    Ab rool ftw...sore from last Friday and almost died after 3 sets of 8 D:
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    oh man, oh god oh man. oh god...oh man

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    oh man, oh god oh man. oh god...oh man
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    Ab roller is my main tool. Pretty sure nothing else hits the entire spectrum (obliques and rectus abdominis) like the roller does. Also, I do a lot of chins and pull ups now as well and, from what I recall, they have the highest level of RA activation.

    Roller is usually for 10 reps and chins and pull ups is one-two rep short of failure. I also like throwing in pallof presses (3 reps at 10 seconds a pop), RKC planks, side planks, reverse crunches, side bends, and DB windmills. I don't really do anything over 10 reps.

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    This is full-retard...standing ab roll-outs with 80lb vest?!?
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    Check out Ross (3:25). On a decline and face to ground. I think he's done this with a vest, too, but I can't seem to find the vid. You can also watch the entire video and wonder why we're all so inferior:
    “Go back?" he thought. "No good at all! Go sideways? Impossible! Go forward? Only thing to do! On we go!" So up he got, and trotted along with his little sword held in front of him and one hand feeling the wall, and his heart all of a patter and a pitter.”
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    Never any ab work when bulking since I'm doing real heavy deads and squats. However when cutting, I will throw in some direct ab work. Is it really making any difference? Probably not.
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    Originally Posted by TomBremner View Post
    anybody do oblique work? like rotational things or whatever?
    Over the years I have done all kinds of things for ab, and aesthetically have had the best reults by getting an exercise ball(right size is key) and doing the exercises it recommended in the pamphlet that came with it, srs.
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