Switching To SS...A Question!

[marquettedomino]

SS is a strength routine. Not a mass routine. Yes you will gain on SS. Give it a least 2 months. YOu will start getting stronger in a very short time....

[Francis333]

SS is a strength routine. Not a mass routine. Yes you will gain on SS. Give it a least 2 months. YOu will start getting stronger in a very short time....

2 months to see gains? Alright. And I have learned: that lifting is for strength. Eating is for mass. Combine the two for best results.

[marquettedomino]

2 months to see gains? Alright. And I have learned: that lifting is for strength. Eating is for mass. Combine the two for best results.

Yeah 2 months. And if you don't see any gains by then. You are not doing the program correctly.

[Francis333]

Yeah 2 months. And if you don't see any gains by then. You are not doing the program correctly.

Alright I am pretty sure I will be able to do this correctly haha. It is quite simple. I just need to keep up with the eating so I DO see gains. Because it is possible i do the routine correctly but if I dont eat then i wont see any gains.

[T_O_N_Y]

Direct arm work will be necessary to get some decent growth, this idea that rows stimulate your biceps enough for maximum growth is absolutely ridiculous.

Starting strength is a good routine but the same can be done with a 4 or even 5 day split with higher volume, a beginner would benefit from the higher volume while progressively increasing weight at the same time.

Eat 500+ over maintenance, lift heavy, sleep and you will grow.

Check out some of Hola's splits they are quite good http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...1896861&page=1

[Francis333]

Direct arm work will be necessary to get some decent growth, this idea that rows stimulate your biceps enough for maximum growth is absolutely ridiculous.

Starting strength is a good routine but the same can be done with a 4 or even 5 day split with higher volume, a beginner would benefit from the higher volume while progressively increasing weight at the same time.

Eat 500+ over maintenance, lift heavy, sleep and you will grow.

Check out some of Hola's splits they are quite good http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...1896861&page=1

I posted my split and everyone says that I should do SS and why the hell aren't you doing SS etc. They said that splits for beginners are not great and that SS is better. Maybe I will try split after SS

[marquettedomino]

Yes you should progress from SS to some form of split. And Rows are not part of SS. Even if they are a substitute.

[Ka0s]

do pullups (3 sets BW or weighted if you can do 3x10 BW) on at least 1 day (if not both) and biceps/triceps (2 sets each) on friday

example:
monday
squat 3x5
bench 3x5
rows 3x5
pullups

wednesday:
squat 3x5
ohp 3x5
deadlift 1x5
pullups

friday:
squat 3x5
bench 3x5
rows 3x5
db curl 2x8
skullcrusher 2x10

[Francis333]

do pullups (3 sets BW or weighted if you can do 3x10 BW) on at least 1 day (if not both) and biceps/triceps (2 sets each) on friday

example:
monday
squat 3x5
bench 3x5
rows 3x5
pullups

wednesday:
squat 3x5
ohp 3x5
deadlift 1x5
pullups

friday:
squat 3x5
bench 3x5
rows 3x5
db curl 2x8
skullcrusher 2x10

Im going to do the same thing except dips instead of pullups on the wednesday and I dont think Im going to do the curls and skullcrushers. At least not for a few weeks.

[Ka0s]

Im going to do the same thing except dips instead of pullups on the wednesday and I dont think Im going to do the curls and skullcrushers. At least not for a few weeks.

good plan

[Francis333]

good plan

Thank you Ka0S

[NZninja101]

2 months to see gains? Alright. And I have learned: that lifting is for strength. Eating is for mass. Combine the two for best results.

Since (I assume), you'll be consuming a 500 calorie surplus so that you're gaining around a pound a week, you'll have an indication of change in body composition without having to wait 2 months to be sure, as you can just measure your weight weekly, (and if you're gaining weight and getting stronger then you'll surely be putting on muscle mass)

[Francis333]

Since (I assume), you'll be consuming a 500 calorie surplus so that you're gaining around a pound a week, you'll have an indication of change in body composition without having to wait 2 months to be sure, as you can just measure your weight weekly, (and if you're gaining weight and getting stronger then you'll surely be putting on muscle mass)

True ninja. Although I did lose 2 pounds down to 150lbs this week for some reason

[Spencar]

Don't add any of the "accessories" until a month or two in, so scratch what you said about adding dips and chinups or whatever it was haha, and just stick to the SS for a while. I pretty much had the exact same forum post as you stating I was going to add a few workouts to SS, before even trying on it and many people posted "No common beginner mistake, adding exercises to SS too early" or along those lines.

[NZninja101]

True ninja. Although I did lose 2 pounds down to 150lbs this week for some reason

That's odd, make sure you're eating enough to grow.

[Francis333]

Don't add any of the "accessories" until a month or two in, so scratch what you said about adding dips and chinups or whatever it was haha, and just stick to the SS for a while. I pretty much had the exact same forum post as you stating I was going to add a few workouts to SS, before even trying on it and many people posted "No common beginner mistake, adding exercises to SS too early" or along those lines.

I dont see any harm in adding those two exercises. Pullups are a good compound exercise and dips are too.

[ParkRanger]

I dont see any harm in adding those two exercises. Pullups are a good compound exercise and dips are too.

As long as you are progressing as the routine intends, a few accessory lifts are fine.

[Francis333]

As long as you are progressing as the routine intends, a few accessory lifts are fine.

This

[UngeneticAzn]

You going to make a log? You should, I'd be interested in your progress, considering we are literally the same weight/height.

[Francis333]

You going to make a log? You should, I'd be interested in your progress, considering we are literally the same weight/height.

Very cool UngeneticAzn I will keep a log! Currently I am keeping one on my Ipod Touch although I can transfer it over to the CPU. Yea we are same height, weight and age! I would be interested in seeing yours too so we can keep each other motivated. Great idea man.

[OliNufc]

Add in chinups not curls... dunno why the **** people are saying curls instead of chinups

[UngeneticAzn]

Very cool UngeneticAzn I will keep a log! Currently I am keeping one on my Ipod Touch although I can transfer it over to the CPU. Yea we are same height, weight and age! I would be interested in seeing yours too so we can keep each other motivated. Great idea man.

Make a log in the Teen Workout section. I'll subscribe to it when you do. My log is in my signature.

[alanking]

dude i just started training bi's and tri's and i've got 16" arms,so yes you can get bigger arms just from compound movements.

[Francis333]

Make a log in the Teen Workout section. I'll subscribe to it when you do. My log is in my signature.

Will do man. Ill subscribe to yours.