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    Four Days of Debauchery! How much did I hurt myself?

    I've eaten very clean for the past 8 months, and this weekend I didn't just fall off the wagon, I jumped off head first. How much damage do you think I did and how long before I recover?

    Friday - 24oz Prime Rib / Large Fries / .750ml Scotch
    Saturday - Double Red Robin Burger / Three Servings of Steak Fries / Pint of Scotch
    Sunday - Two McDonalds Sausage McMuffins / A Whopper with Cheese / BK Fish Sandwich / 20pc Nuggets / Large Fries / Litre of Scotch
    Monday - Two Whoppers with Cheese / 10 piece Nugget / Large FF / Double Dark Chocolate Cake

    I didn't train any of those days, drank and ate like a medevil pig. I'm going to start eating clean today and start training again. But realistically, how much damage did I just do? I don't feel or look fat (I know it usually takes a while for it to appear). But now I'm riddled with guilt even though the four cheat days were so good, it was almost sexual. I don't plan on EVER doing it again, I just couldn't stop myself.
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    That's great to hear! I feel so guilty, but then again, it was sooooo nice just pigging out and not giving a crap about my caloric or fat intake for once. Back to the grind to work this crap off! Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated.
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    Originally Posted by FloridaRock View Post
    That's great to hear! I feel so guilty, but then again, it was sooooo nice just pigging out and not giving a crap about my caloric or fat intake for once. Back to the grind to work this crap off! Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated.
    When this kind of thing happens - I mean binges - it's usually because you either don't have treat days/times when eating clean, or you don't leave room for something like it in your calorie intake. If you deprive yourself too severely over time, you might end up going through binge cycles. Best to build it into your intake.
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    Originally Posted by FloridaRock View Post
    That's great to hear! I feel so guilty, but then again, it was sooooo nice just pigging out and not giving a crap about my caloric or fat intake for once. Back to the grind to work this crap off! Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated.
    I just ended a 10 day IDGAF diet Had company staying with me who loved to cook and eat so I joined them. Put on 12 pounds in ten days....

    Figure it will take 2 weeks to lose the bloat (started tracking again yesterday). I'm with you, it was nice not tracking and eating some pretty tasty treats...well a lot of tasty treats! Good luck, you will be fine.
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    Originally Posted by Whiskeyjack View Post
    When this kind of thing happens - I mean binges - it's usually because you either don't have treat days/times when eating clean, or you don't leave room for something like it in your calorie intake. If you deprive yourself too severely over time, you might end up going through binge cycles. Best to build it into your intake.
    This is what I do. Gotta build a little slack into the diet for sweets and alcohol. I was finding myself eating TOO clean and going through a bag or Good n' Plenties or a 12-pack of beer in one sitting. Not like a liter of scotch is something I would opt for... I would be on the floor for 3 days....

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    Originally Posted by Jtbny View Post
    I just ended a 10 day IDGAF diet Had company staying with me who loved to cook and eat so I joined them. Put on 12 pounds in ten days....

    Figure it will take 2 weeks to lose the bloat (started tracking again yesterday). I'm with you, it was nice not tracking and eating some pretty tasty treats...well a lot of tasty treats! Good luck, you will be fine.
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    So you ate a bunch of meat and french fries and drank a little booze.

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    Originally Posted by FloridaRock View Post
    I've eaten very clean for the past 8 months, and this weekend I didn't just fall off the wagon, I jumped off head first. How much damage do you think I did and how long before I recover?

    Friday - 24oz Prime Rib / Large Fries / .750ml Scotch
    Saturday - Double Red Robin Burger / Three Servings of Steak Fries / Pint of Scotch
    Sunday - Two McDonalds Sausage McMuffins / A Whopper with Cheese / BK Fish Sandwich / 20pc Nuggets / Large Fries / Litre of Scotch
    Monday - Two Whoppers with Cheese / 10 piece Nugget / Large FF / Double Dark Chocolate Cake

    I didn't train any of those days, drank and ate like a medevil pig. I'm going to start eating clean today and start training again. But realistically, how much damage did I just do? I don't feel or look fat (I know it usually takes a while for it to appear). But now I'm riddled with guilt even though the four cheat days were so good, it was almost sexual. I don't plan on EVER doing it again, I just couldn't stop myself.
    wow that's heavy, especially with alcohol...
    I'd rather do one cheat day without alcohol on sundays, like a burger king meal and 2 organge muffins and for dinner a big chinese takeaway and some ice cream or 10 large pork ribs
    and that's it. like the guys in the seventies did often, on Venice beach

    hey, what are you measurements, arms cold, chest ? looks like a strong fella.
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    hey, what are you measurements, arms cold, chest ? looks like a strong fella.
    I've honestly never measured anything but my arms. They're just under 18" (17 5/8").
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    Originally Posted by FloridaRock View Post
    That's great to hear! I feel so guilty, but then again, it was sooooo nice just pigging out and not giving a crap about my caloric or fat intake for once. Back to the grind to work this crap off! Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated.
    It's not what, it's how much. I eat a fair amount of Pizza, burgers, etc even when cutting. If I make a tombstone for lunch, I only eat half instead of the whole thing. 750 cals instead of 1500.
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    Originally Posted by FloridaRock View Post
    Four Days of Debauchery! How much did I hurt myself?
    Yer fine, burger king and rotten ronnies will just clean you. It won't kill ya, not like it's raw eggs or anything. lol
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    Originally Posted by FloridaRock View Post
    Friday - 24oz Prime Rib / Large Fries / .750ml Scotch
    Saturday - Double Red Robin Burger / Three Servings of Steak Fries / Pint of Scotch
    Sunday - Two McDonalds Sausage McMuffins / A Whopper with Cheese / BK Fish Sandwich / 20pc Nuggets / Large Fries / Litre of Scotch
    Monday - Two Whoppers with Cheese / 10 piece Nugget / Large FF / Double Dark Chocolate Cake
    It took you 4 days to eat that!

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    But now I'm riddled with guilt.
    Associating negative feelings with food is WAY WAY WAY worse than any of the food that you ate.
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    Some people swear by refeeding. You went overboard but your past conditioning probably lends itself to a good metabolism and your future workouts will burn off the glycose if you get back at it, and any fat you may gain won't be around long.

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    good arms. I think 18'' cold is a good target and plenty enough for a 5 10-6ft fella.

    poster on pizza: me too but I make own Italian Napoli style pizza with Antimo flour 00, the best one. costs $1.2 per pizza 12''
    with provolone cheese or mozarella or both (Belgioiso), oregano, 2 spoons of sauce, olive oil. no preservatives, no additives (look at what is in the prepared doughs at your food store... no no). you can add tuna or chicken pieces, artichokes etc etc

    dough receipe: flour 500gr, purified slightly heated water 350ml, 1/2 spoon yeast, 1spoon salt, mix flour salt yeast, then add water, mix by hand or large spoon
    till a sort of ball appears, cover with towell and plate and let it rise 2hrs then in the fridge for 24h like italian pizzeria do.
    then make 4 balls and prepare your pizza (2-3 spoons sauce, 1-2spoons olive oil, some oregano (dried). in oven preheated at 450°F for 10min then grill 1min. eat best is using a ceramic plate to mimic the effect of wood oven.
    (add oregano before or after or basilic leaves). you can prepare thus 4 pizzas and freeze them once cooked if needed or keep 3 for
    rest of the week in the fridge (just cover them with transparent film to avoid drying). reheat a few min in the oven before eating.

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    No free range organic omega 3 eggs in your dough?
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    OP you should have skipped the fries and the nuggets and just ate more prime ribs.
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    This wasn't meant to be a "brag thread" - I honestly felt guilty for going on a binge and wanted some input on the possible damage. I eat extremely clean and never have cheat days, so I was actually concerned. I worked out last night (Jits only) and this morning (weight training) and had awesome workouts! All that crap must have restored my energy (or it could have just been the rest days). Thanks for the input, and please don't think I was here bragging about eating a bunch of crap.
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    It was four days! Even if someone said "You have set yourself back 16 whole days!!" how does that change anything? What's done is done. Feeling guilty doesn't accomplish anything except making yourself feel bad. Learn from mistakes but don't obsess over them.

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    When this kind of thing happens - I mean binges - it's usually because you either don't have treat days/times when eating clean, or you don't leave room for something like it in your calorie intake. If you deprive yourself too severely over time, you might end up going through binge cycles. Best to build it into your intake.
    This is what I was thinking as well.
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    I don't see anything wrong with it, except for the alcohol. Here's a very small snippet taken from another forum that I am on regarding the affects of alcohol in regard to bodybuilding.

    "Hormonal changes that occur when alcohol enters the bloodstream; First, cortisol levels are spiked largely which means not only is muscle being broken down, but all that fat and cals getting ready to be stored, guess where its going? Thats right! Around the stomach! Your thinking, well my test levels will counteract the cortisol, well, not true. With raised cortisol levels, free test is bound and alcohol inhibits testosterone production again for up to 24 hrs. So, when you go to get a drink and think to yourself "Hey, its just a few beers, its not so bad." Just think of all that hard work you put in the gym and on your diet and think of how much of that you are throwing away with every single sip you take..."
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    Originally Posted by FloridaRock View Post
    This wasn't meant to be a "brag thread" - I honestly felt guilty for going on a binge and wanted some input on the possible damage. I eat extremely clean and never have cheat days, so I was actually concerned. I worked out last night (Jits only) and this morning (weight training) and had awesome workouts! All that crap must have restored my energy (or it could have just been the rest days). Thanks for the input, and please don't think I was here bragging about eating a bunch of crap.
    frankly there's no big deal doing cheat days. just don't do the alcohol...
    i find a diet is more sustainable with a cheat day every 7 or 14days... or make yourself some home made pizza burgers
    the benefit of training 5_6days a week is that it allows "deviations" rather than someone not training much and dieting
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