To all of the religious miscers

[LukeTAn]

With all of the different religions in the world, giving different people their own god or set of gods to believe in, who and/or what gives a person the right to tell someone else their religion is wrong. Or that their god isnt real?

I honestly cannot understand religion. Seems to me that the only reason people follow a "god" is because they need something to follow or an object to believe in.

What god do you believe in, and why is your god real while the rest of them are fake?


Edit: i am not atheist. I believe that there is a god. What i dont understand is how people can so blindly follow their god and dismiss others.
-i believe there is god but i dont believe there should be religion

[Benny_Lava]

This is new.


No religious person can answer this question. They just have to have "faith".

Every religious person swears up and down "their God" gives them strength thus their God is the true God. Everyone else is just hallucinating.


Just let them be brah. You can't argue with someone who believes in something there is absolutely zero proof of.

And I have nothing against religious people, unless they hurt others due to their beliefs. It's just a completely pointless discussion is all.

[Jacobcapra]

With all of the different religions in the world, giving different people their own god or set of gods to believe in, who and/or what gives a person the right to tell someone else their religion is wrong. Or that their god isnt real?

I honestly cannot understand religion. Seems to me that the only reason people follow a "god" is because they need something to follow or an object to believe in.

What god do you believe in, and why is your god real while the rest of them are fake?

Nothing gives a person the right to tell someone else their god isn't real.

The reasons to follow a god do include a yearning to have an ultimate purpose and be a part of something greater, but also involves morality, community and relationship.

Saying 'one god is real and the others are fake' is a bit of a misnomer. In the grand scheme of things, whatever God you believe in we all came from the same one. The manner in which you label a creator and choose to honor one, is a bit inconsequential.

[johsin28]

Finally a new and exciting thread that has never been beaten to death before.

[SensualityLover]

dis you op

[Better Unborn]

There is no logic in religion. You get indoctrinated from birth and it phucks you up mentally.

[LukeTAn]

because the bible can be authenticated as originating from outside space-time to a confidence level beyond reasonable doubt.

but if you want to stay unreasonable instead then nothing can be proven to you and you will never find any truth in this life.

"Outside space-time"

Aware me on who left and found this information?

[Livestock]

With all of the different religions in the world, giving different people their own god or set of gods to believe in, who and/or what gives a person the right to tell someone else their religion is wrong. Or that their god isnt real?

I honestly cannot understand religion. Seems to me that the only reason people follow a "god" is because they need something to follow or an object to believe in.

What god do you believe in, and why is your god real while the rest of them are fake?

You make assumptions based on the baggage that main-stream media and idiots associate with religion.

I honestly can't understand why people of 2016 can't reliably base their own arguments on the true nature of things rather than on the opinions of *mob mentality endowed* average people.

It's getting quite disgusting TBH. Revolting as ****.

People seriously need to get their heads out of their asses.

Also, get real, in reality, you don't need the right to judge others, you can just do it.

[tyn89]

People believe in stupid chit. Some people can't live without a fake purpose.

[ironicinori]

Lmao the irony. Internet atheist redditors like OP all have this locked in interpretation of what other people believe. Any mention of religion devolves into assumptions about "Bearded man in the sky" "Bigoted against gays" "Believes in creationism".

What if I told you most Christians' beliefs are as varied and as accepting as anyone. And the vast majority don't believe what your /r/atheism cult thinks they do.

[celltechbrahz]

Cool theory op, wanna come talk about it at the white house?

[1slo5oh]

I worship BOB... I mean nobody has ever seen him... or talked to him... but some dead people wrote some dope a$$ stories about him doing some hype $hit... One day when I will get to meet him.. but until then I will live my life for BOB... give money to BOB because it will do good things for me...

[LukeTAn]

Lmao the irony. Internet atheist redditors like OP all have this locked in interpretation of what other people believe. Any mention of religion devolves into assumptions about "Bearded man in the sky" "Bigoted against gays" "Believes in creationism".

What if I told you most Christians' beliefs are as varied and as accepting as anyone. And the vast majority don't believe what your /r/atheism cult thinks they do.

Not sure what your /r/ thing is. Was talking with some coworks and my manager about it at work yesterday. Me and my manager concluded that all of this religion stuff is just so people have something to believe im. Anyone who joined in that was religious couldnt come up with anything besides "its real bc i believe in it".

I worship BOB... I mean nobody has ever seen him... or talked to him... but some dead people wrote some dope a$$ stories about him doing some hype $hit... One day when I will get to meet him.. but until then I will live my life for BOB... give money to BOB because it will do good things for me...

Also brought this up. Some churches FORCE you to donate. Im like 90% convinced at this point religion was created/founded by some crazy hobo that was hungry and realized he'd get free food/shelter if people believed in what he was saying

[ironicinori]

Not sure what your /r/ thing is. Was talking with some coworks and my manager about it at work yesterday. Me and my manager concluded that all of this religion stuff is just so people have something to believe im. Anyone who joined in that was religious couldnt come up with anything besides "its real bc i believe in it".

Ah, so that's what you concluded? You should write a book or something, once religions see your point of view they'll just lay down and rot it's so new and revolutionary.

[MuckSnapper]

These fukkin memes man lmao

[JACrawford]

Big reason why I believe in God is the fact that I don't want to live my life knowing that in 60ish years I'll just dissipate into nothingness and be a box in the ground. Even if its not true, if the atheists are right, I'd rather live my life with faith in something rather than an inevitable nonexistence.

We don't know the human mind well enough to know that there isn't a euphoric phenomenon that occurs after dead, or a soul of sorts, that is an afterlife.


I'm what I call a contemporary Catholic. I don't mind gay marriage, I don't mind premarital sex, I don't mind if priests get married, etc. Live a good life, have faith in yourself and a higher power, and do unto others as you would yourself. Debating abotu this stuff is silly. I don't care if you don't believe, and won't try to sell you the Bible until you do.

[MuckSnapper]

Big reason why I believe in God is the fact that I don't want to live my life knowing that in 60ish years I'll just dissipate into nothingness and be a box in the ground. Even if its not true, if the atheists are right, I'd rather live my life with faith in something rather than an inevitable nonexistence.

We don't know the human mind well enough to know that there isn't a euphoric phenomenon that occurs after dead, or a soul of sorts, that is an afterlife.


I'm what I call a contemporary Catholic. I don't mind gay marriage, I don't mind premarital sex, I don't mind if priests get married, etc. Live a good life, have faith in yourself and a higher power, and do unto others as you would yourself. Debating abotu this stuff is silly. I don't care if you don't believe, and won't try to sell you the Bible until you do.

Lol, safe wager faith.

If God is all knowing surely he'll know you only "believed" in him as a ticket into heaven.

Your type is the most hilarious tbh

[Armord]

Nothing gives a person the right to tell someone else their god isn't real.

The reasons to follow a god do include a yearning to have an ultimate purpose and be a part of something greater, but also involves morality, community and relationship.

Saying 'one god is real and the others are fake' is a bit of a misnomer. In the grand scheme of things, whatever God you believe in we all came from the same one. The manner in which you label a creator and choose to honor one, is a bit inconsequential.

good post

[Unforgiv3n]

Forum Admins can you please make a Religion&Politics section... k thx bye...... Oh whats that... we have had one for years....... OP do you even

[Armord]

Also brought this up. Some churches FORCE you to donate. Im like 90% convinced at this point religion was created/founded by some crazy hobo that was hungry and realized he'd get free food/shelter if people believed in what he was saying

You're probably right.

Think about it.. religion is man made. What kinda man would create such a thing? People wanting power and wealth who came from none and had no other way of gaining it.

[OhioBoy21]

Jesus started the true church giving the keys to Peter and there has been an unbroken well documented chain from Peter to the current pope. Any other Christian religion was started by a man who broke off from this chain. This doesn't explain other random religions like Hindu or whatever though

[LukeTAn]

Ah, so that's what you concluded? You should write a book or something, once religions see your point of view they'll just lay down and rot it's so new and revolutionary.

I believe that there is a god. However i wouldnt give god a name. I definitely wouldnt go so far as to say elohim is the real god and the rest are make believe.

You say christians dont force religion onto people? However people get baptized at such a young age and go to catholic/christian schools. If all the kid grows up knowing is this one form of god they will believe it is real. Then the muslim people believe in a different god. They grow up all their life only knwoing this god as their god, the true god. Which one is real, and why is the other fake?

[Jacobcapra]

Big reason why I believe in God is the fact that I don't want to live my life knowing that in 60ish years I'll just dissipate into nothingness and be a box in the ground. Even if its not true, if the atheists are right, I'd rather live my life with faith in something rather than an inevitable nonexistence.

I'm what I call a contemporary Catholic. I don't mind gay marriage, I don't mind premarital sex, I don't mind if priests get married, etc. Live a good life, have faith in yourself and a higher power, and do unto others as you would yourself. Debating abotu this stuff is silly. I don't care if you don't believe, and won't try to sell you the Bible until you do.

But here's the caveat brah; having faith doesn't mean believing in something because the alternative isn't attractive. Having faith is more like believing what is unattractive.

Also, by description you are non-denominational; you didn't really hit any axioms of the catholic faith there.

[Jacobcapra]

good post

Thanks brah

dayum, on spread

[seanb1979]

Nothing gives a person the right to tell someone else their god isn't real.

The reasons to follow a god do include a yearning to have an ultimate purpose and be a part of something greater, but also involves morality, community and relationship.

Saying 'one god is real and the others are fake' is a bit of a misnomer. In the grand scheme of things, whatever God you believe in we all came from the same one. The manner in which you label a creator and choose to honor one, is a bit inconsequential.

this makes no sense - different religions are vastly different - do you think they fight over nothing?

[Jacobcapra]

this makes no sense - different religions are vastly different - do you think they fight over nothing?

Maybe their specific doctrines are different, but on a macro level pretty much every monotheistic religion is the same.

They include a single creator, a moral code, a reward/punishment system for your acts and devotion, and stress the importance of community and relationship with your neighbors.

[confuoco]

Maybe their specific doctrines are different, but on a macro level pretty much every monotheistic religion is the same.

They include a single creator, a moral code, a reward/punishment system for your acts and devotion, and stress the importance of community and relationship with your neighbors.

This idea doesn't play out in reality based on Francis Fukuyama's research at Stanford. Each religion creates its own social hierarchy & an environment of reciprocal trust or distrust & voluntary organization or polarized familism that stabilizes or destabilizes countries & their economies.

The Islamic countries are characterized by heavy amoral familism (tribalism) that Islam won't break up (high association to family, low voluntary organization, strong statism). The same with Catholic countries (L. America & Southern Europe) except they benefited from various western revolutions such as the Enlightenment. Secular countries also begin to deteriorate voluntary organization & return to high familism/high statism characteristics with little in-between and inverse replacement rates, which is essentially social regression and economic destruction. Protestant societies have a correlation to capitalism, strong voluntary organization, low statism, higher education, hygiene, savings & per capita income levels, with sufficient replacement rates to function as a society.

You know how I know one way it's true? Because it works in reality.

[Jacobcapra]

This idea doesn't play out in reality based on Francis Fukuyama's research at Stanford. Each religion creates its own social hierarchy & an environment of reciprocal trust or distrust & voluntary organization or polarized familism that stabilizes or destabilizes countries & their economies.

The Islamic countries are characterized by heavy amoral familism (tribalism) that Islam won't break up (high association to family, low voluntary organization, strong statism). The same with Catholic countries (L. America & Southern Europe) except they benefited from various western revolutions such as the Enlightenment. Secular countries also begin to deteriorate voluntary organization & return to high familism/high statism characteristics with little in-between, which is essentially social regression/atomization and bodes economic destruction. Protestant societies have a correlation to capitalism, strong voluntary organization, low statism, higher education, hygiene, savings & per capita income levels.

You know how I know one way it's true? Because it works in reality.

How does all of what you just said make my point not play out? All I'm saying is that the axioms of monotheism are evident in every popular monotheistic religion in the world. Actually your first point sort of corroborates what I'm saying.

Each religion creates its own social hierarchy & an environment of reciprocal trust or distrust & voluntary organization or polarized familism that stabilizes or destabilizes countries & their economies.

So, your saying that every religion provides social heirarchy, an environment of trust, and stability (or lack thereof)? That just seems like more parallels between different religions. The specifics may differ wildly, sure, but at it's core monotheism is only one thing represented by all of these different religions.

[Mumra]

With all of the different religions in the world, giving different people their own god or set of gods to believe in, who and/or what gives a person the right to tell someone else their religion is wrong. Or that their god isnt real?

I honestly cannot understand religion. Seems to me that the only reason people follow a "god" is because they need something to follow or an object to believe in.

What god do you believe in, and why is your god real while the rest of them are fake?

none of this ever stopped an atheist. they tell religious people this all the time. well by religious people I mean christians. 9 out of 10 of them will submit to muslims whenever possible.

[celltechbrahz]

none of this ever stopped an atheist. they tell religious people this all the time. well by religious people I mean christians. 9 out of 10 of them will submit to muslims whenever possible.

I think what you're saying is, with all of the different science in the world, giving different people their own science or set of sciences to believe in, who and/or what gives a person the right to tell someone else their science is wrong. Or that their science isnt real?

I honestly cannot understand science. Seems to me that the only reason people follow a "science" is because they need something to follow or an explanation to believe in.

What science do you believe in, and why is your science real while the rest of them are fake?