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    Exclamation Your Best advice for cycling off pre-workouts and still hit the gym hard

    What is your best advice for hitting the gym hard without taking a pre-workout?

    Is there anything You can take that is not a STIM but will help a pre-workout focus, etc?

    I think its time for me to finnally say i need to cycle off, but I've been pushing and pushing it saying all I need is the next best or new pre-workout supplement on the market, when all I need to do is cycle off.

    I'm worried that cycling off the pre-workout will make my workouts less intense and that I'll lose focus because of alot of running thoughts that go thru my head during waking hours.

    Any Advice helps. Since I'm limited on giving out Rep, I'll do my best to give out as much as possible.
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    Just use a stim-free pre, cue up some Justin Beiber on the iPod, grab yourself by the balls, and go smash. I recommend Hemavol, Green Bulge, or decaf RagNOrok as great stim-free options.
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    i'd say your best bet is just to suck it up and take a break from them. I'm just finishing 6 weeks off after consistently using cocktail of stims for the last year.
    During the 6 weeks i only drank a coffee once, about a week ago, and it really hit me.

    A coffee used to do nothing for me, and now i cant wait to see what my pre workouts will do.

    also, failing that, there is Revamp and reset AD; supps that are supposed to decrease stim tolerance, dont know for sure how effective they are though.
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    Originally Posted by shadeline View Post
    What is your best advice for hitting the gym hard without taking a pre-workout?

    Is there anything You can take that is not a STIM but will help a pre-workout focus, etc?

    I think its time for me to finnally say i need to cycle off, but I've been pushing and pushing it saying all I need is the next best or new pre-workout supplement on the market, when all I need to do is cycle off.

    I'm worried that cycling off the pre-workout will make my workouts less intense and that I'll lose focus because of alot of running thoughts that go thru my head during waking hours.

    Any Advice helps. Since I'm limited on giving out Rep, I'll do my best to give out as much as possible.
    I've honestly been taking Assault for about 10 weeks straight. srs, and have not had to cycle off.

    If you really need to cycle off, just take a few weeks off and try your damned best to just forget the fact that you're cycling off and go back to the glory days. Like posters above said there are plenty of stim free PWO.

    The only risk you take is that some PWO have other stuff in it as well that your body might miss. Im not sure what exactly you're taking, but some products contain: creatine, BCAA's, and vitamins that you will have to compensate for. Just my 2 cents.
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    A good non stim pwo like Ultima will do the trick.
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    Originally Posted by supermant11 View Post
    I've honestly been taking Assault for about 10 weeks straight. srs, and have not had to cycle off.

    If you really need to cycle off, just take a few weeks off and try your damned best to just forget the fact that you're cycling off and go back to the glory days. Like posters above said there are plenty of stim free PWO.

    The only risk you take is that some PWO have other stuff in it as well that your body might miss. Im not sure what exactly you're taking, but some products contain: creatine, BCAA's, and vitamins that you will have to compensate for. Just my 2 cents.
    Im taking Muscletech Cell-tech for creatine, I've cycled it and about to cycle off again. Muscletech's Cell-tech stuff really works very well. I notice major changing of my body when I'm on it. It really helps with strength too. I hate cycling off it because I get weaker.

    I take a mutli vitamin every other day. I don't like to overload my system with vitamins, because I eat plenty of greens and good food.
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    Originally Posted by T_Rod View Post
    A good non stim pwo like Ultima will do the trick.
    Ive heard of ultima, have you took it before?
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    ultima is great as is hemavol. i often stack them together.
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    Originally Posted by kevin1st View Post
    ultima is great as is hemavol. i often stack them together.
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    I'll try Ultima soon.. so many said its a great non-stim product.. although it has PEA which is a stim right?
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    try lowering your amount of caffeine each day before you stop taking it...
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    i personally recommend a proprietary blend of Pantera, Meshuggah, and Motorhead

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    been taking Body Octane these last few days. it's a stim free pre workout, and ive been having great workouts. did 2 scoops today for back and had one of the best back workouts ever. did i mention it was at 7AM and i usually need my coffee in the morning to wake me up. lots of good options out there.
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    The biggest problem with taking Ultima when cycling off pre workouts is that you are in line for a huge disappointment lol. If you were taking something like Jack3d or 1mr for a long period of time, Ultima will literally do nothing for you. The best advice is to suck it up, and just hit the gym. We all have to go through that 4 week off cycle of pre workouts after 8 weeks of using it, and it SUCKS lol. Its the only thing I hate about working out
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    since when has hemavol been discontinued, and why??
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    Originally Posted by Impregnator View Post
    since when has hemavol been discontinued, and why??
    discontinued on bb.com, because they don't sell iforce product anymore

    no't on the other shop , you find it on a lot of site
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    Originally Posted by poison View Post
    Just use a stim-free pre, cue up some Justin Beiber on the iPod, grab yourself by the balls, and go smash. I recommend Hemavol, Green Bulge, or decaf RagNOrok as great stim-free options.
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    Originally Posted by gwgtopshelf View Post
    try lowering your amount of caffeine each day before you stop taking it...
    dont go cold turkey
    Came in to post this. Bulk caffeine is cheap. If you need to drink something for mental reasons, maybe use BCAAs. As others have said, there are a few good non-stim pres.
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    Originally Posted by shadeline View Post
    What is your best advice for hitting the gym hard without taking a pre-workout?

    Is there anything You can take that is not a STIM but will help a pre-workout focus, etc?

    I think its time for me to finnally say i need to cycle off, but I've been pushing and pushing it saying all I need is the next best or new pre-workout supplement on the market, when all I need to do is cycle off.

    I'm worried that cycling off the pre-workout will make my workouts less intense and that I'll lose focus because of alot of running thoughts that go thru my head during waking hours.

    Any Advice helps. Since I'm limited on giving out Rep, I'll do my best to give out as much as possible.
    It's only a couple of weeks, 4 at the most if you plan on cycling off for that long. I use Purple Wraath as my stim-free pre/intra and it helps for sure and there are a A LOT of stim-free pre-workout options out there.

    Also eating a carb-rich meal 30 mins. to an hour before working out can help with energy.
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    My experience

    I just finished 8 weeks on DS Craze (lemon berry), and am currently at the end of week 2 of my 4 week cycling off period. For me, I choose NOT to use any stim-free products, because some still have caffeine or active ingredients in them that can be found in PWO's that you are cycling off from, also I didn't want to waste money on something that might not even work or ruin the whole plan. Yeah it sucks at first, especially on leg days when you need that extra push, but it really isn't that bad. Tests you for your real strength!!
    Just focus on your nutrition, your body's natural pre-workout, for that makes all the difference. If you plan meals properly, your body will be fueled to workout regardless of extra help. Use this period to really focus on that aspect, because making your body get used to eating right and just working out will allow your next PWO to kick in even harder than ever!
    But, if you really feel like you need something to help in this cycling off time, I recommend green tea( de-caffeinated). May not give you the rush or pump that you are missing, but will keep high levels of energy that will allow you to make it through the workout just fine.
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    Originally Posted by shadeline View Post
    Im taking Muscletech Cell-tech for creatine, I've cycled it and about to cycle off again. Muscletech's Cell-tech stuff really works very well. I notice major changing of my body when I'm on it. It really helps with strength too. I hate cycling off it because I get weaker.

    I take a mutli vitamin every other day. I don't like to overload my system with vitamins, because I eat plenty of greens and good food.
    Good to hear!
    Glad you like it, But there is no need to cycle off and on.
    You can take 1 scoop per day everyday for results after you're saturated.

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    Originally Posted by thedarce View Post
    been taking Body Octane these last few days. it's a stim free pre workout, and ive been having great workouts. did 2 scoops today for back and had one of the best back workouts ever. did i mention it was at 7AM and i usually need my coffee in the morning to wake me up. lots of good options out there.
    +1 on the Body Octane! Just did a cycle of this and it was just as good as Ultima!
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    A lot of good info here. This my first time on here and I have a question regarding cycling. What if an older person such as my self, who still likes to work out and take pre workout supps, but only works out twice a week which would only be 2 scoops a week. Is cycling even waranted? Thanks
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    Just use a stim-free pre, cue up some Justin Beiber on the iPod, grab yourself by the balls, and go smash. I recommend Hemavol, Green Bulge, or decaf RagNOrok as great stim-free options.
    Wow you listen to justin beiber while lifting sorry but I have to give you a thumbs down bro.
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    Originally Posted by M1cster2014 View Post
    A lot of good info here. This my first time on here and I have a question regarding cycling. What if an older person such as my self, who still likes to work out and take pre workout supps, but only works out twice a week which would only be 2 scoops a week. Is cycling even waranted? Thanks
    Nope. Cycling really isn't even warranted in the first place in most cases.
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