What makes SAN Fierce better than other PWOs?

[ElBonemeister]

I haven't been able to find a good breakdown of the ingredients in this PWO, and am curious as to what makes it so much more effective than other PWOs that I have tried (Jack3d, SP250, etc).

[kr1kit]

what makes it so much more effective than other PWOs

Allieninja

[henhuynh]

Allieninja

And Poison

[TommyTuffGuy]

it's generously dosed compared to most products. Taste is around a 7.5 to 8 and has great pumps. All around solid pre.

[xR1pp3Rx]

its all in the formula.... that and a generous serving of poison too.

[diguincoutoreis]

Cell Hydration Matrix 4.84g †
(Dicreatine-Malate**, Creatine-Malate, Creatine Nitrate)
Neuro Enhancing Substrates 4.8g †
(L-Taurine, N-Acetyl L-Glutamine, L-Tyrosine & Caffeine Anhydreous)
Duralast™ Matrix 2.5g †
(Glucuronolactone & L-Aspartic Acid, B-Alanine)
Nitro NO 2.25g †
(L-Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate & L-Ornithine Alpha Ketoglutarate)


CRAZE Description: "We Repeat, Supplemental Arginine DOES NOT Give Great Pumps!"

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[TheGilmore]

Cell Hydration Matrix 4.84g †
(Dicreatine-Malate**, Creatine-Malate, Creatine Nitrate)
Neuro Enhancing Substrates 4.8g †
(L-Taurine, N-Acetyl L-Glutamine, L-Tyrosine & Caffeine Anhydreous)
Duralast™ Matrix 2.5g †
(Glucuronolactone & L-Aspartic Acid, B-Alanine)
Nitro NO 2.25g †
(L-Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate & L-Ornithine Alpha Ketoglutarate)


CRAZE Description: "We Repeat, Supplemental Arginine DOES NOT Give Great Pumps!"

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It's the nitrates providing the pump. I THINK I've seen it mentioned that arginine helps against nitrate tolerance, but I haven't checked into this.

[D3Baseball]

LOL at anyone thinking Craze > Fierce.

Craze is a nice energy product...but that's it. There's nothing else in it that would be dosed properly even at 2 scoops.

Fierce has you covered in more ways than simply energy, that's why it's a better pre.

[Hyruliangoat]

LOL at anyone thinking Craze > Fierce.

Craze is a nice energy product...but that's it. There's nothing else in it that would be dosed properly even at 2 scoops.

Fierce has you covered in more ways than simply energy, that's why it's a better pre.

Pinch gon be mad

[Valhallabound86]

Ninjas with poison.

:O

[RatherBeLifting]

LOL at anyone thinking Craze > Fierce.

Craze is a nice energy product...but that's it. There's nothing else in it that would be dosed properly even at 2 scoops.

Fierce has you covered in more ways than simply energy, that's why it's a better pre.

lol. Craze is easily a superior product. The energy, drive, and focus will push you further in the gym then anything else on the market.

[allieninja]

Allieninja

And Poison

This. Dead sexy reps.

Fierce has you covered in more ways than simply energy, that's why it's a better pre.

You are a smart man.

[neddo]

Allieninja

And Poison

Son of a bi...

Came in to post this and leave... Leaving dissatisfied.

cxt?

[allieninja]

Son of a bi...

Came in to post this and leave... Leaving dissatisfied.

cxt?

You mean cxm. And none of us know what he looks like. Well, maybe you do... care to share anything?

[Spork3245]

Poor CXM... Never gets any love in the SAN threads

Fierce is a damn good pre, I love the "after-effects"; Not only is there no crash, I have more energy throughout the rest of my day both mentally and physically.
Check my review; http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=139377063

[dbone1026]

To be honest I was about to purchase Fierce until Craze came out. Right now Craze is the best Pre I have ever used. At some point I would like to get some Fierce so I could do some comparisons. I think I also just got a sample of WF v2 with my last supp order to test against Craze (v1 used to be my go to Pre).

As far as Fierce here is a solid review done by MrCooper69

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post728374783

[neddo]

You mean cxm. And none of us know what he looks like. Well, maybe you do... care to share anything?

Hahah tried to go and doublecheck his username before anybody caught it; too slow. I know he's a platinum member

To be honest I was about to purchase Fierce until Craze came out. Right now Craze is the best Pre I have ever used. At some point I would like to get some Fierce so I could do some comparisons. I think I also just got a sample of WF v2 with my last supp order to test against Craze (v1 used to be my go to Pre).

As far as Fierce here is a solid review done by MrCooper69

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post728374783

v2 is solid. Craze and Fierce and/or Launch are all being eyeballed for my spring semester.

[allieninja]

Poor CXM... Never gets any love in the SAN threads

Perhaps he needs a sexy avi.

At some point I would like to get some Fierce so I could do some comparisons.

Perhaps you should PM me for some samples

[DASBUNKER]

I had the sickest Battlefield 3 game on Fierce yesterday couple of hours postworkout it just gave some baddass tunnel vision, went like 31-13...

[dbone1026]

Perhaps you should PM me for some samples

My mom always told me to never play with girls from Brooklyn

[kr1kit]

I had the sickest Battlefield 3 game on Fierce yesterday couple of hours postworkout it just gave some baddass tunnel vision, went like 31-13...

31-13? It's time to up your game brah.

[allieninja]

My mom always told me to never play with girls from Brooklyn

It's cool, I grew up on Long Island.

[dbone1026]

It's cool, I grew up on Long Island.

And I was born in Brooklyn lol

[DASBUNKER]

31-13? It's time to up your game brah.

i dont care for my k/d ratio.. i just go for the objective.. so i end up killed plenty of times from behind or sprinting to the mcom and i dont camp either sniping etc.. so most games i end up with similar kills and deaths..

[powercage]

Do they have UAVs in BF3 for me to shoot down?

[DASBUNKER]

Do they have UAVs in BF3 for me to shoot down?

yes but theyre exclusive to the recon class... they also have ULV which is an arm mobile robot that can activate/deactivate objectives and its armed with short distance machine bb gun

[DNasteee]

I have 2 containers of each and love both. Energy levels and endurance are great on either, pumps are slighty better on Feirce (I do stack Agmatine though with Craze).

Oh and Brooklyn in the houssseeeeee haha.

[justfive]

fml

[poison]

Allieninja

And Poison

its all in the formula.... that and a generous serving of poison too.

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It's the nitrates providing the pump. I THINK I've seen it mentioned that arginine helps against nitrate tolerance, but I haven't checked into this.

Correct. And Ornithine has its own potential endurance benefits. I dunno about you guys, but stim-heavy concentrates are not exactly the best performance aids around. Low on actual performance benefits, and high on 'oh **** I feel something', they are generally inferior, performance-wise.

LOL at anyone thinking Craze > Fierce.

Craze is a nice energy product...but that's it. There's nothing else in it that would be dosed properly even at 2 scoops.

Fierce has you covered in more ways than simply energy, that's why it's a better pre.

BOOM!

Poor CXM... Never gets any love in the SAN threads

Fierce is a damn good pre, I love the "after-effects"; Not only is there no crash, I have more energy throughout the rest of my day both mentally and physically.
Check my review; http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=139377063

Teh Spork has spoken!

lol. Craze is easily a superior product. The energy, drive, and focus will push you further in the gym then anything else on the market.

Your address. Now.

To be honest I was about to purchase Fierce until Craze came out. Right now Craze is the best Pre I have ever used. At some point I would like to get some Fierce so I could do some comparisons. I think I also just got a sample of WF v2 with my last supp order to test against Craze (v1 used to be my go to Pre).

As far as Fierce here is a solid review done by MrCooper69

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post728374783

Send allie or I your address.

Hahah tried to go and doublecheck his username before anybody caught it; too slow. I know he's a platinum member



v2 is solid. Craze and Fierce and/or Launch are all being eyeballed for my spring semester.

Address. NOW.

I had the sickest Battlefield 3 game on Fierce yesterday couple of hours postworkout it just gave some baddass tunnel vision, went like 31-13...

BOOM headshot.

My mom always told me to never play with girls from Brooklyn

They feisty!

I have 2 containers of each and love both. Energy levels and endurance are great on either, pumps are slighty better on Feirce (I do stack Agmatine though with Craze).

Oh and Brooklyn in the houssseeeeee haha.

Of course pumps are awesome on Fierce: it allows you to push more weight, faster, in less time due to hitting performance through multiple pathways. Nitrates, creatine, malate, l-aspartic acid, nootropics, caffeine, and more, with ZERO crash, ZERO 'odd' after effects. Just pure performance in a tasty, economical package.

Oh, and you'll NEVER need to use 'one to two servings'. You get a full 50 servings.

BTW, I'm posting from a private 737 at 36k feet. U mad?

[allieninja]

BTW, I'm posting from a private 737 at 36k feet. U mad?