Closed Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 37
  1. #1
    Registered User itsRyan's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2011
    Location: United States
    Age: 38
    Posts: 4,406
    Rep Power: 0
    itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000)
    itsRyan is offline

    What is the limit on testosterone levels in the UFC?

    We all know Nate Marquardt and Chael Sonnen got busted for high levels. I just had my testosterone tested and it came back 458 ng/dl. Kinda low IMO. I feel sluggish as hell with low sex drive (serious). Sonnen's levels were 3400 I read. Could someone with low test take testosterone replacement therapy and still compete in MMA if the levels weren't over the limit? What exactly is the limit?

  2. #2
    Registered User wheelerx50's Avatar
    Join Date: Apr 2010
    Location: United States
    Posts: 7,054
    Rep Power: 15069
    wheelerx50 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) wheelerx50 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) wheelerx50 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) wheelerx50 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) wheelerx50 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) wheelerx50 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) wheelerx50 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) wheelerx50 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) wheelerx50 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) wheelerx50 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) wheelerx50 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000)
    wheelerx50 is offline
    Hendo is on TRT and never screwed up.

  3. #3
    Registered User itsRyan's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2011
    Location: United States
    Age: 38
    Posts: 4,406
    Rep Power: 0
    itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000)
    itsRyan is offline
    Well you still didn't tell me the limit on the levels. Is there a limit? Or do they just look and see 1500 ng/dl and assume PEDS!?

  4. #4
    HardcorePowerlifting.com Sean Katterle's Avatar
    Join Date: Sep 2006
    Location: United States
    Age: 51
    Posts: 994
    Rep Power: 2082
    Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000)
    Sean Katterle is offline
    Originally Posted by itsRyan View Post
    We all know Nate Marquardt and Chael Sonnen got busted for high levels. I just had my testosterone tested and it came back 458 ng/dl. Kinda low IMO. I feel sluggish as hell with low sex drive (serious). Sonnen's levels were 3400 I read. Could someone with low test take testosterone replacement therapy and still compete in MMA if the levels weren't over the limit? What exactly is the limit?
    I dunno what the mma regulations are, but I'm on HRT (I'm 39 years old) and they keep my levels between 600 and 1,200. I take a 200mg (1cc of test enanthate) injection every 8 days.

    I didn't follow the Sonnen drug test story, so I don't know the specifics, but a level of 3,400 is WAY above the "normal" range for non-PED using people, young or old. My understanding is that the range for twenty something, healthy, drug free athletes is 400 to 1,000.

    Your feelings of sluggishness and low libido could also come from overtraining, from a diet that's too low in carbs and/or from situational depression. Once you start using (meaning, running more than a cycle or two) you'll probably have to pick between using for the rest of your life or having your "natural" test level be lower than ever. The more you use and the longer you use the more your body will depend on getting the test from an outside source (lower natural production.)
    Stay Strong,
    Sean Katterle
    http://www.HardcorePowerlifting.com

    Check out my new weight lifting BLOG at

    http://blogs.ironmanmagazine.com/hardcorepowerlifting/

  5. #5
    Registered User itsRyan's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2011
    Location: United States
    Age: 38
    Posts: 4,406
    Rep Power: 0
    itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000)
    itsRyan is offline
    Originally Posted by Sean Katterle View Post
    I dunno what the mma regulations are, but I'm on HRT (I'm 39 years old) and they keep my levels between 600 and 1,200. I take a 200mg (1cc of test enanthate) injection every 8 days.

    I didn't follow the Sonnen drug test story, so I don't know the specifics, but a level of 3,400 is WAY above the "normal" range for non-PED using people, young or old. My understanding is that the range for twenty something, healthy, drug free athletes is 400 to 1,000.

    Your feelings of sluggishness and low libido could also come from overtraining, from a diet that's too low in carbs and/or from situational depression. Once you start using (meaning, running more than a cycle or two) you'll probably have to pick between using for the rest of your life or having your "natural" test level be lower than ever. The more you use and the longer you use the more your body will depend on getting the test from an outside source (lower natural production.)
    According to this chart, 400 ng/dl is not normal at all for a 26 year old man. It's normal for a 75-84 year old man.http://www.mens-hormonal-health.com/...ls-in-men.html

    But my Dr says I'm within normal levels. I sure don't feel like it. I have literally no sex drive or energy for workouts. I get tired about 10 mins into my lift. It's not over training. I can't get the energy to train. This never used to happen a few years ago. I wanted to compete in MMA but there is no way I have the energy or testosterone levels to compete.

  6. #6
    Banned Gaash's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2002
    Location: Philadelphia
    Age: 41
    Posts: 1,450
    Rep Power: 0
    Gaash will become famous soon enough. (+50) Gaash will become famous soon enough. (+50) Gaash will become famous soon enough. (+50) Gaash will become famous soon enough. (+50) Gaash will become famous soon enough. (+50) Gaash will become famous soon enough. (+50) Gaash will become famous soon enough. (+50) Gaash will become famous soon enough. (+50) Gaash will become famous soon enough. (+50) Gaash will become famous soon enough. (+50) Gaash will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    Gaash is offline
    Originally Posted by itsRyan View Post
    According to this chart, 400 ng/dl is not normal at all for a 26 year old man. It's normal for a 75-84 year old man.http://www.mens-hormonal-health.com/...ls-in-men.html

    But my Dr says I'm within normal levels. I sure don't feel like it. I have literally no sex drive or energy for workouts. I get tired about 10 mins into my lift. It's not over training. I can't get the energy to train. This never used to happen a few years ago. I wanted to compete in MMA but there is no way I have the energy or testosterone levels to compete.
    The normal range is very wide at least in the medical literature... YOu can also range a lot depending on sleep etc.

  7. #7
    Punjabi WRXbrah's Avatar
    Join Date: Apr 2009
    Location: San Jose, California, United States
    Posts: 7,109
    Rep Power: 7606
    WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000) WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000) WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000) WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000) WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000) WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000) WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000) WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000) WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000) WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000) WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000)
    WRXbrah is offline
    feels bad man, doc says its ok but this was on a good week.

    49ers, Lakers, A's, Stanford
    Automotive/Smog tech
    2004 modded FXT

    Reps for life : Niner fans, Jetlife

  8. #8
    Han Solo DFS200's Avatar
    Join Date: Oct 2009
    Age: 31
    Posts: 10,634
    Rep Power: 34767
    DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    DFS200 is offline


    Any higher than this and you will piss hot, test levels so high it impairs rational thought.

  9. #9
    Power Level: Over 9000 Workout4ever's Avatar
    Join Date: Apr 2009
    Location: Miami, Florida, United States
    Age: 30
    Posts: 40,547
    Rep Power: 58683
    Workout4ever has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Workout4ever has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Workout4ever has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Workout4ever has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Workout4ever has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Workout4ever has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Workout4ever has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Workout4ever has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Workout4ever has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Workout4ever has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) Workout4ever has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    Workout4ever is offline
    Originally Posted by DFS200 View Post


    Any higher than this and you will piss hot, test levels so high it impairs rational thought.
    goddamnit, you beat me to it, my response was gonna be the following:



    no more than over 9000!

  10. #10
    Registered User itsRyan's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2011
    Location: United States
    Age: 38
    Posts: 4,406
    Rep Power: 0
    itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000)
    itsRyan is offline
    Wow WRX you're in the 300s and the Doc won't do anything about it and says you're fine. That's messed up. I think we basically have to tell our Dr something must be done or we will have to take actions on our own.

  11. #11
    Han Solo DFS200's Avatar
    Join Date: Oct 2009
    Age: 31
    Posts: 10,634
    Rep Power: 34767
    DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    DFS200 is offline
    Originally Posted by WRXbrah View Post
    feels bad man, doc says its ok but this was on a good week.

    [IMG]http://i44.tinypic.com/166ywif.jpg[IMG]

  12. #12
    Registered User jamez123's Avatar
    Join Date: Dec 2006
    Age: 40
    Posts: 4,613
    Rep Power: 4842
    jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500)
    jamez123 is offline
    Originally Posted by Workout4ever View Post
    goddamnit, you beat me to it, my response was gonna be the following:



    no more than over 9000!
    lulz. thats roid rage!

    for you guys with low test and dumb drs... get smart and go see an 'anti aging' clinic... they hand out test scripts like candy.
    RIP Anderson Silva - GOAT of MMA.

  13. #13
    Han Solo DFS200's Avatar
    Join Date: Oct 2009
    Age: 31
    Posts: 10,634
    Rep Power: 34767
    DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    DFS200 is offline
    Originally Posted by jamez123 View Post
    lulz. thats roid rage!

    for you guys with low test and dumb drs... get smart and go see an 'anti aging' clinic... they hand out test scripts like candy.
    Just stack trib with zma dumbass...
























































































  14. #14
    Registered User itsRyan's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2011
    Location: United States
    Age: 38
    Posts: 4,406
    Rep Power: 0
    itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000) itsRyan is a complete loser! (-2000)
    itsRyan is offline
    Originally Posted by jamez123 View Post
    lulz. thats roid rage!

    for you guys with low test and dumb drs... get smart and go see an 'anti aging' clinic... they hand out test scripts like candy.
    how would I go about going to an anti aging Dr? I would have to get a referral from my own Dr probably and I'm "normal" according to him, even with test of an 85 yr old.

  15. #15
    Han Solo DFS200's Avatar
    Join Date: Oct 2009
    Age: 31
    Posts: 10,634
    Rep Power: 34767
    DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) DFS200 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    DFS200 is offline
    Originally Posted by itsRyan View Post
    how would I go about going to an anti aging Dr? I would have to get a referral from my own Dr probably and I'm "normal" according to him, even with test of an 85 yr old.
    Just watch the TRT part of "Bigger, Faster, Stronger", that will pretty much tell you everything you need to know.

  16. #16
    Registered User jamez123's Avatar
    Join Date: Dec 2006
    Age: 40
    Posts: 4,613
    Rep Power: 4842
    jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500)
    jamez123 is offline
    Originally Posted by itsRyan View Post
    how would I go about going to an anti aging Dr? I would have to get a referral from my own Dr probably and I'm "normal" according to him, even with test of an 85 yr old.
    you call them, make an appointment.... just like you go about seeing anyone? lol.
    RIP Anderson Silva - GOAT of MMA.

  17. #17
    Registered User 2much2gain's Avatar
    Join Date: Oct 2007
    Age: 35
    Posts: 1,640
    Rep Power: 2445
    2much2gain is just really nice. (+1000) 2much2gain is just really nice. (+1000) 2much2gain is just really nice. (+1000) 2much2gain is just really nice. (+1000) 2much2gain is just really nice. (+1000) 2much2gain is just really nice. (+1000) 2much2gain is just really nice. (+1000) 2much2gain is just really nice. (+1000) 2much2gain is just really nice. (+1000) 2much2gain is just really nice. (+1000) 2much2gain is just really nice. (+1000)
    2much2gain is offline
    Originally Posted by itsRyan View Post
    Wow WRX you're in the 300s and the Doc won't do anything about it and says you're fine. That's messed up. I think we basically have to tell our Dr something must be done or we will have to take actions on our own.
    Thats because your results aren't anything out of the ordinary, they're well within the normal range, just in the lower half.

  18. #18
    Registered User ZenBowman's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2006
    Posts: 46,371
    Rep Power: 1174421
    ZenBowman has the mod powerz ZenBowman has the mod powerz ZenBowman has the mod powerz ZenBowman has the mod powerz ZenBowman has the mod powerz ZenBowman has the mod powerz ZenBowman has the mod powerz ZenBowman has the mod powerz ZenBowman has the mod powerz ZenBowman has the mod powerz ZenBowman has the mod powerz
    ZenBowman is offline
    Testosterone is suppressed through constant heavy training, try taking two weeks off and retest, if it is higher then, you have your answer.

    Age 26 and considering TRT, not sure if SRS.
    When all that says 'it is good' has been debunked, what says 'I want' remains.

    - CS Lewis

  19. #19
    Registered User ZenBowman's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2006
    Posts: 46,371
    Rep Power: 1174421
    ZenBowman has the mod powerz ZenBowman has the mod powerz ZenBowman has the mod powerz ZenBowman has the mod powerz ZenBowman has the mod powerz ZenBowman has the mod powerz ZenBowman has the mod powerz ZenBowman has the mod powerz ZenBowman has the mod powerz ZenBowman has the mod powerz ZenBowman has the mod powerz
    ZenBowman is offline
    Originally Posted by itsRyan View Post
    Wow WRX you're in the 300s and the Doc won't do anything about it and says you're fine. That's messed up. I think we basically have to tell our Dr something must be done or we will have to take actions on our own.
    How is it messed up that a doctor is actually not giving you something??

    It is messed up when doctors overmedicate their patients, not when they tell you to relax and go home.
    When all that says 'it is good' has been debunked, what says 'I want' remains.

    - CS Lewis

  20. #20
    Registered User jamez123's Avatar
    Join Date: Dec 2006
    Age: 40
    Posts: 4,613
    Rep Power: 4842
    jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500)
    jamez123 is offline
    Originally Posted by ZenBowman View Post
    Age 26 and considering TRT, not sure if SRS.
    age is only a single factor of many, for TRT usage...
    RIP Anderson Silva - GOAT of MMA.

  21. #21
    HardcorePowerlifting.com Sean Katterle's Avatar
    Join Date: Sep 2006
    Location: United States
    Age: 51
    Posts: 994
    Rep Power: 2082
    Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000)
    Sean Katterle is offline
    edited
    Last edited by BOZZ; 12-01-2011 at 05:12 AM.
    Stay Strong,
    Sean Katterle
    http://www.HardcorePowerlifting.com

    Check out my new weight lifting BLOG at

    http://blogs.ironmanmagazine.com/hardcorepowerlifting/

  22. #22
    Registered User 1800_Cool_Guy's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2009
    Posts: 17,807
    Rep Power: 9153
    1800_Cool_Guy is a name known to all. (+5000) 1800_Cool_Guy is a name known to all. (+5000) 1800_Cool_Guy is a name known to all. (+5000) 1800_Cool_Guy is a name known to all. (+5000) 1800_Cool_Guy is a name known to all. (+5000) 1800_Cool_Guy is a name known to all. (+5000) 1800_Cool_Guy is a name known to all. (+5000) 1800_Cool_Guy is a name known to all. (+5000) 1800_Cool_Guy is a name known to all. (+5000) 1800_Cool_Guy is a name known to all. (+5000) 1800_Cool_Guy is a name known to all. (+5000)
    1800_Cool_Guy is offline
    Not aware of testosterone levels. I'm assuming I can go to a general doctor and get a test? Now i'm curious as fuk.
    * MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN Crew*
    *Check a sloots FICO scores to determine if she's worth it Crew*
    *Hotmail Crew*
    *Costco Crew*
    * Your thoughts Crew*
    Oh where oh where has my little Jake gone? Oh where oh where can he be?

  23. #23
    HardcorePowerlifting.com Sean Katterle's Avatar
    Join Date: Sep 2006
    Location: United States
    Age: 51
    Posts: 994
    Rep Power: 2082
    Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000) Sean Katterle is just really nice. (+1000)
    Sean Katterle is offline
    Originally Posted by itsRyan View Post
    According to this chart, 400 ng/dl is not normal at all for a 26 year old man. It's normal for a 75-84 year old man.http://www.mens-hormonal-health.com/...ls-in-men.html

    But my Dr says I'm within normal levels. I sure don't feel like it. I have literally no sex drive or energy for workouts. I get tired about 10 mins into my lift. It's not over training. I can't get the energy to train. This never used to happen a few years ago. I wanted to compete in MMA but there is no way I have the energy or testosterone levels to compete.
    You said you were 458? That's not HRT low from what I've been told and read. That's just the lower end of average (and who wants to be that, right?)

    And a 458 test level wouldn't cause you to have "Literally no sex drive or energy for workouts." There's tens of thousands of men out there who are in the 400s and who have sex and exercise. And your hormone situation is a lot more complicated than just a number score from one of many blood tests.
    Stay Strong,
    Sean Katterle
    http://www.HardcorePowerlifting.com

    Check out my new weight lifting BLOG at

    http://blogs.ironmanmagazine.com/hardcorepowerlifting/

  24. #24
    Banned firstandgoal's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2010
    Posts: 5,060
    Rep Power: 0
    firstandgoal is a name known to all. (+5000) firstandgoal is a name known to all. (+5000) firstandgoal is a name known to all. (+5000) firstandgoal is a name known to all. (+5000) firstandgoal is a name known to all. (+5000) firstandgoal is a name known to all. (+5000) firstandgoal is a name known to all. (+5000) firstandgoal is a name known to all. (+5000) firstandgoal is a name known to all. (+5000) firstandgoal is a name known to all. (+5000) firstandgoal is a name known to all. (+5000)
    firstandgoal is offline
    I think the TS might be suffering from depression and stress? Those things can cause you to have low libido and test levels. I wouldn't try to get TRT at all, just because you will be reliant on it and once off the stuff you will really hit the lows man. If you stop having morning wood does that mean your test is low?

  25. #25
    Punjabi WRXbrah's Avatar
    Join Date: Apr 2009
    Location: San Jose, California, United States
    Posts: 7,109
    Rep Power: 7606
    WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000) WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000) WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000) WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000) WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000) WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000) WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000) WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000) WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000) WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000) WRXbrah is a name known to all. (+5000)
    WRXbrah is offline
    Originally Posted by ZenBowman View Post
    How is it messed up that a doctor is actually not giving you something??

    It is messed up when doctors overmedicate their patients, not when they tell you to relax and go home.
    Well its Kaiser for one and its real hard to get anything decent from them. Mind you thats on a good week and when I worked out consistently for 2 years, my gains were piss poor. Strength and mood are pretty low for someone thats been lifting 5 yearsish. Im sure I could alter my results to show them on the low side but its still pretty sad that they consider someone with test levels around 250ish normal. Especially someone in their 20s and 30s.

    I could definitely benefit from Sonnen or Hendo levels.
    49ers, Lakers, A's, Stanford
    Automotive/Smog tech
    2004 modded FXT

    Reps for life : Niner fans, Jetlife

  26. #26
    Sexual Tyrannosaurus ftwrestler's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2008
    Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, United States
    Posts: 30,915
    Rep Power: 65173
    ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    ftwrestler is offline
    Originally Posted by jamez123 View Post
    lulz. thats roid rage!

    for you guys with low test and dumb drs... get smart and go see an 'anti aging' clinic... they hand out test scripts like candy.
    for 1.3k a month

  27. #27
    Registered User jamez123's Avatar
    Join Date: Dec 2006
    Age: 40
    Posts: 4,613
    Rep Power: 4842
    jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500)
    jamez123 is offline
    Originally Posted by ftwrestler View Post
    for 1.3k a month
    lol. you must have a lot of ballers in cincinnati because you could drop that 1 and make that .3 last months in other places
    RIP Anderson Silva - GOAT of MMA.

  28. #28
    Sexual Tyrannosaurus ftwrestler's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2008
    Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, United States
    Posts: 30,915
    Rep Power: 65173
    ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    ftwrestler is offline
    Originally Posted by jamez123 View Post
    lol. you must have a lot of ballers in cincinnati because you could drop that 1 and make that .3 last months in other places
    srs?

    brb making some calls

  29. #29
    Registered User jamez123's Avatar
    Join Date: Dec 2006
    Age: 40
    Posts: 4,613
    Rep Power: 4842
    jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) jamez123 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500)
    jamez123 is offline
    Originally Posted by ftwrestler View Post
    srs?

    brb making some calls
    clear your pms
    RIP Anderson Silva - GOAT of MMA.

  30. #30
    Sexual Tyrannosaurus ftwrestler's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2008
    Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, United States
    Posts: 30,915
    Rep Power: 65173
    ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ftwrestler has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    ftwrestler is offline
    Originally Posted by jamez123 View Post
    clear your pms
    done

Similar Threads

  1. Nate Marquardt: Test
    By zodzod in forum MMA Fighting
    Replies: 106
    Last Post: 06-29-2011, 06:27 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts