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    do you need a microscope to see your balls
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    just read the thread

    Zunehmr you are a complete f*cking idiot
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    Originally Posted by Ka0s View Post
    just read the thread

    Zunehmr you are a complete f*cking idiot
    QFT. Using a study in untrained men to prove you can deadlift 600lbs on steronz even if you don't lift. smh.
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    Originally Posted by m4ttarama View Post
    clen isn't a steroid.

    also, its not really confirmed what hgh gut is caused from, the newest hypothesis is that it's from insulin usage.

    also, please don't call ronnie coleman gross
    the hgh gut is caused from organ growth. growth hormone causes you're entire body to grow. muscles, bones, organs, etc. so your now giant liver and stomach are threatening to make you pop
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    Originally Posted by SamSix View Post
    the hgh gut is caused from organ growth. growth hormone causes you're entire body to grow. muscles, bones, organs, etc. so your now giant liver and stomach are threatening to make you pop
    this is true. However

    you will not get an HGH gut unless you abuse GH. the GH gut is caused by IGF + GH and an abundance of calories causing organ growth and visceral fat. It is much harder to get fat on GH. You would be surprised at the amount of people that take low dosages, such as 3,5,7 IU of GH ED(compared to 30-40 of cutler), which builds them a model or athletic physique
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    Originally Posted by Zunehmer View Post
    People on steroids that do NOTHING gain more muscle then people that work out without steroids. Its proven.

    Someone who has achieved something natural obviously had dedication and willpower. These are traits to be proud of. If someone used roids and doesn't look as extreme as the pros there is no way to tell if he actually had willpower or if he just took the roids.
    lolwutdafuk? BRB ANYONE WHO TAKES STEROIDS IS AUTOMATICALLY RIPPED WITH NO WORK INVOLVED

    If that were true then anyone with a few hundred dollars could be a pro bber
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    Originally Posted by L1AM View Post
    lolwutdafuk? BRB ANYONE WHO TAKES STEROIDS IS AUTOMATICALLY RIPPED WITH NO WORK INVOLVED

    If that were true then anyone with a few hundred dollars could be a pro bber
    http://yilab.bio.uci.edu/teach/biosci2b/NEJM.pdf

    The study is overblown out of proportion on this site. But yes, the group with no exercise and testosterone supplementation ended up with more fat free mass then the group with no testosterone and exercise.
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    Originally Posted by theNobbler View Post
    http://yilab.bio.uci.edu/teach/biosci2b/NEJM.pdf

    The study is overblown out of proportion on this site. But yes, the group with no exercise and testosterone supplementation ended up with more fat free mass then the group with no testosterone and exercise.
    this is true but a lot of it is due to the fact they have little lbm in the first place
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    I don't have anything against juicing at all I plan on doing it in the near future. Gots no moneys doe. ****s expensive as fuaarrrk.
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    who gives a flying ****. use gear if you want. Don't use it if you don't want to. There are pros and cons to each approach,obviously, but why is everyone going all out arguing over weather or not its cheating, or if layne or OP is natty. Who cares? size is size. aesthetics are aesthetics. dat dere celltech is dat dere celltech. hgh is hgh. And they help you grow muscle.... mind= blown? really..... There are plenty of people who are aesthetic natty, but not all that big, and obviously people with "help" are well, getting help and will probably be bigger. no need to beat a dead horse
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    Originally Posted by matthew10113 View Post
    ****s expensive as fuaarrrk.
    Ur doin it rong. Good steronz cost less than protein powder.
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    Originally Posted by spiderman997 View Post
    Ur doin it rong. Good steronz cost less than protein powder.
    Back to back SD cycles anyone?
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    Originally Posted by ANIMALISTIKZ View Post
    this is true. However

    you will not get an HGH gut unless you abuse GH. the GH gut is caused by IGF + GH and an abundance of calories causing organ growth and visceral fat. It is much harder to get fat on GH. You would be surprised at the amount of people that take low dosages, such as 3,5,7 IU of GH ED(compared to 30-40 of cutler), which builds them a model or athletic physique
    Is hgh more or less dangerous then roids? Havn't done near enough research to even consider it, just curious.
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    Originally Posted by theonepercent View Post
    Is hgh more or less dangerous then roids? Havn't done near enough research to even consider it, just curious.
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    Pity the guys that don't know how to respond and can just namecall cuz im right. Yes it were untrained subjects, the training group was having the same benefit though (nooby gains). I repeated that you won't look like coleman but you will look decent for sure. Looking at the reactions lots of teens here seem to f+ck with their hormones before they're even 20, good luck in future life.
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    Originally Posted by Zunehmer View Post
    Pity the guys that don't know how to respond and can just namecall cuz im right. Yes it were untrained subjects, the training group was having the same benefit though (nooby gains). I repeated that you won't look like coleman but you will look decent for sure. Looking at the reactions lots of teens here seem to f+ck with their hormones before they're even 20, good luck in future life.
    You're right.

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    In all honesty juiced or natty why do you give a fuark? BB'ing is a lifestyle not a race for those who dont compete, aslong as your happy with what you have and how you achieved it then its all good amiryt? The route you take is all dependant on goals and preferance.. You wanna take the long route take the long route and be happy with it, you wanna juice and not get that sense of satisfaction and possibly fuark yourself up by all means do so

    Someone shoulda said

    Inb4 juicer gets me butthurt im still skinny
    Inb4 natty guy gets me butthurt I couldnt take the time and effort to do things the meaningfull way

    IMO juicing isnt bodybuilding, dont even compare the 2
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    NZ,

    what weight did you cut from to the end of your cut?

    How much did you lose on your arms during your cut (starting and ending measurements)?
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    IMO juicing isnt bodybuilding, dont even compare the 2
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    Originally Posted by SamTek View Post
    NZ,

    what weight did you cut from to the end of your cut?

    How much did you lose on your arms during your cut (starting and ending measurements)?
    ive ended up the same weight 10 % bf less and arms the same size during long cut
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    Originally Posted by Mat723 View Post
    natty is better....you are proud of what you have achieved...i m not prior to any srs BB since i ve been into it for just 3 to 4 months but i got fine results being natty...not even protein supplements nor anything like this.I know people will say these supplements are natty but i just consider that any artificial product is making me not that much natty....not saying that ppl who take supplements are not natty...i just don't feel like even giving them a try...

    OP you must be proud of what you have achieved by yourself with a non natural way and yelling at natty bodybuilders who have done this naturally...
    those are called NOOB GAINS. Soon you won't be able to gain muscle nearly as easy

    Just saying, but yeah f**k steriods
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    Originally Posted by dominicevans View Post
    those are called NOOB GAINS. Soon you won't be able to gain muscle nearly as easy

    Just saying, but yeah f**k steriods
    i m not planning to be HUUUUUUUUUUUGE..and i know what are noob gains....

    Just said my opinion about roids...and yeah they suck
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    It's important to keep in mind that different people have different goals when it comes to bodybuilding. For some of these goals hgh and what-not can be completely acceptable. It depends on the individual, so it's not really accurate to assume that all bodybuilding must be done naturally. If you think about it, bodybuilding is as unnatural as it gets to begin with. We artificially force our bodies to become something that the environment doesn't necessarily wants it to be. Some people just decide to take it a few steps further. Their body - their decisions.
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    Wtf am I reading?
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