You can get away with not having them exactly parallel to the ground, but the point is to save your wrists and elbows from the impact of the barbell when catching it.
Do this: load 135lbs on the barbell, have it on squat racks. Approach the barbell and simply put yourself as if doing a front squat WITHOUT unracking the barbell. Now stretch those elbows by slowly rotating each up as you keep the hands grabbed around the barbell.
With a tight grip on the bar or loose?
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Tight grip; slowly push the elbows up (one at a time), you will feel a nice stretch in the triceps and forearms. Don't push the limit, just feel the nice stretch and hold it for 10 seconds, then do the other elbow. Do this for 2 or 3 times each elbow.
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Tight grip; slowly push the elbows up (one at a time), you will feel a nice stretch in the triceps and forearms. Don't push the limit, just feel the nice stretch and hold it for 10 seconds, then do the other elbow. Do this for 2 or 3 times each elbow.
Tight grip; slowly push the elbows up (one at a time), you will feel a nice stretch in the triceps and forearms. Don't push the limit, just feel the nice stretch and hold it for 10 seconds, then do the other elbow. Do this for 2 or 3 times each elbow.
Did it tonight. Throat was pretty much on the bar and my hands were as close as they could get to my sides so I could have my upper arms parallel to the ground. I'm assuming as time goes on I won't have to be so rigid? How many times a week can I do this? Every day since it is just a static stretch?
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Did it tonight. Throat was pretty much on the bar and my hands were as close as they could get to my sides so I could have my upper arms parallel to the ground. I'm assuming as time goes on I won't have to be so rigid? How many times a week can I do this? Every day since it is just a static stretch?
Do it every day before power cleans.
If you are choking yourself with the barbell, then don't have it so deep into the collarbone. You are not going to front squat the barbell, thus you can be a bit distant from the barbell to perform the stretches.
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I hadn't done cleans in over a year and i did them the other day. On my last set I hit my max from when i use to do them, felt awesome. Might go do some more in a little bit!
I hadn't done cleans in over a year and i did them the other day. On my last set I hit my max from when i use to do them, felt awesome. Might go do some more in a little bit!
Awesome! Feel free to update through here brah. Even if you can record yourself, I'm up for reviewing your technique.
Originally Posted by Grifts
I think I sorted out my problem: Too wide of a grip prevented me from getting elbows forward.
Yes, you want to have your grip just outside the shoulders i.e. your hands should be on the exterior side of your shoulders, and elbows always pointing forward.
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I think everything is finally coming together for me. Working on the quarter squat at the end. I think 1 or 2 I did today were acceptable. Did 3x3 @ 135, then a double at 155, but failed the third rep. Completed another triple at 135.
I am thinking the next session I should get a good amount that I feel are acceptable Power Cleans. A couple good sessions and I will start adding weight.
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ManWithCurls, you did an awesome job with this tutorial. Thank you for taking the time to put this together, it's been really helpful. I'm having a hard time implementing everything from this tutorial though. I recorded some footage today and was hoping you could steer me in the right direction by giving some feedback and critique my form. I would really appreciate it.
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I think everything is finally coming together for me. Working on the quarter squat at the end. I think 1 or 2 I did today were acceptable. Did 3x3 @ 135, then a double at 155, but failed the third rep. Completed another triple at 135.
I am thinking the next session I should get a good amount that I feel are acceptable Power Cleans. A couple good sessions and I will start adding weight.
Yeah that's good buddy. How are the power cleans coming along?
Try to do sets of 2 reps, not 3; and increase the number of sets (e.g. 5x2 instead of 3x3).
Originally Posted by jcpryor3
ManWithCurls, you did an awesome job with this tutorial. Thank you for taking the time to put this together, it's been really helpful. I'm having a hard time implementing everything from this tutorial though. I recorded some footage today and was hoping you could steer me in the right direction by giving some feedback and critique my form. I would really appreciate it.
You have a good set up and have caught the drift of pushing the hips forward. However:
1) I'm assuming you're using 10kg/25lbs plates on each side. Grab 2 plates of 10kgs and stack them on the floor so that you have 2x10kgs on each side of the barbell. Then, do your power cleans; you need to have the barbell higher so stacking the plates will do that.
2) Work on catching the barbell. You are actually putting yourself at risk of injury by catching the barbell like you're doing. Read again my tutorial: I emphasize catching the damn barbell solid, this is essential! Catch the barbell by tightening the abdominal wall; you must be solid and not like jelly when you catch it.
Concentrate on the above 2 points for now. You have a good start up position and are managing to keep the back at an angle, so these 2 points will improve your power clean for now.
Update back.
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You have a good set up and have caught the drift of pushing the hips forward. However:
1) I'm assuming you're using 10kg/25lbs plates on each side. Grab 2 plates of 10kgs and stack them on the floor so that you have 2x10kgs on each side of the barbell. Then, do your power cleans; you need to have the barbell higher so stacking the plates will do that.
2) Work on catching the barbell. You are actually putting yourself at risk of injury by catching the barbell like you're doing. Read again my tutorial: I emphasize catching the damn barbell solid, this is essential! Catch the barbell by tightening the abdominal wall; you must be solid and not like jelly when you catch it.
Concentrate on the above 2 points for now. You have a good start up position and are managing to keep the back at an angle, so these 2 points will improve your power clean for now.
Update back.
Thanks you for the speedy response and great feedback! On Monday when I do power cleans again, I'm gonna focus on these two points to improve my form.
I'll update soon to get some more corrections. Thanks bro!
P.s. I'll keep reason this tut until I get it down. Also plan on reading the rest of the posts in this thread. I'm sure there's valuable info.
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I checked form for a front squat using a squat rack, then gripped my barbell the same way on the floor.
I proceeded to power clean it in what I consider my best powerclean ever. Elbows parallel, wrists back. Picture perfect I think.
I then found myself fully extended in a front squat...with no where to go. As I stood there, pondering my predicament, barbell in hand, I remember someone asking what to do without bumper plates, but could not recall the details.
The unload was not pretty. AT ALL.
I have since read the 1/8 Squat/reverse RDL deload technique, but I am having trouble picturing it. Another day, I will practice the unload technique with an empty bar.
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What's up Rogelio! Got a chance to check out your site. Great job so far bro! Favorited.
I've been practicing my power cleans using the suggestions you gave me. I was able to get some new footage of my power cleans yesterday. Was hoping you could coach me through the next steps that I need to take. Here's the footage:
Personally, I think the last one was my best. I need to work on keeping the barbell close to my body and opening up quicker to generate more power.
Edit: Looks like I'm still jumping. Gotta focus on hip thrust and stop jumping.
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Sorry guys, I have been very busy in my free time (if you follow my sites, you'll know why) so haven't had time to do one of my sessions of sitting down and answering questions.
Originally Posted by Grifts
Still slowly increasing.
Last 3 sessions over the last week:
1st:
4x3 @ 135
1x3 @ 145
2nd
5x3 @ 145
3rd
4x3 @ 155
2 fails at 165
I'm going to re-read some of what you posted about doubles I remember you posting earlier for a different rep scheme
EDIT: Looks like I will doing somewhere around 7 to 10 sets of 2. I just started with 5x3 because that was what Rip had in SS.
Rippetoe and I don't agree on the power clean. Doing sets of 3s for a beginner is actually counterproductive; fatigue builds in and technique breaks with more than doubles. I never have newbies do more than 2 reps for technical lifts hence my recommendation.
Originally Posted by Grifts
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I finally did it correctly.
I checked form for a front squat using a squat rack, then gripped my barbell the same way on the floor.
I proceeded to power clean it in what I consider my best powerclean ever. Elbows parallel, wrists back. Picture perfect I think.
I then found myself fully extended in a front squat...with no where to go. As I stood there, pondering my predicament, barbell in hand, I remember someone asking what to do without bumper plates, but could not recall the details.
The unload was not pretty. AT ALL.
I have since read the 1/8 Squat/reverse RDL deload technique, but I am having trouble picturing it. Another day, I will practice the unload technique with an empty bar.
You'll get used to it. However, if you find yourself deep down in a front squat and can't go up, then push the barbell forward. It's either making noise and have the whole gym stare at you or break your wrists. Always dump the barbell.
You'll get used to the reversing of the power clean. I believe I hve posted a video here of me reversing the power clean after a set of clean & presses. Have you seen it?
Lastly, the power clean actually feels super smooth when you hit it right. Quite likely, you hit the right technique when you experienced that, so congrats!
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What's up Rogelio! Got a chance to check out your site. Great job so far bro! Favorited.
I've been practicing my power cleans using the suggestions you gave me. I was able to get some new footage of my power cleans yesterday. Was hoping you could coach me through the next steps that I need to take. Here's the footage:
Personally, I think the last one was my best. I need to work on keeping the barbell close to my body and opening up quicker to generate more power.
Edit: Looks like I'm still jumping. Gotta focus on hip thrust and stop jumping.
It is good that you actually identify where you're going wrong, it shows you are learning! Yes, you're jumping, but that's because you are not finishing the second pull. In effect, you are doing the silly "jump & shrug" cue that so many misinformed people spread.
Your goal is to get up on your toes, eyes looking forward, then dive down. I believe you're not triple extending because the weight is actually light for you. Do this:
1) Do 3-5 sets of 2 reps of vertical cleans. Vertical cleans is basically standing up with the barbell (arms loose, barbell at about mid-thigh height or above). Shrug the barbell up then catch it. Use the same weight you're using in the video (start first with the barbell).
2) Then, do power cleans again but add 10lbs to each side. Do doubles again, and focus on extending up as you were doing with the vertical cleans.
Also, I believe you have a mirror in front of you; if so, stop power cleaning in front of it. You want to be facing the wall when you power clean.
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, I remember someone asking what to do without bumper plates, but could not recall the details.
The unload was not pretty. AT ALL.
Try getting a pair of used tires and making a stack of them. Did this all the time in my buddy's home gym when we did cleans. When you drop the weight, it lands on the tires and absorbs impact. Dont miss however, i broke my buddy's bar doing that with a 275 clean.. oops.
ALSO OP.. I like the vids, just wondering though... I know your just teaching power cleans, why didn't your OLY coaches teach you a full clean? Your clean form is good, but your hips look really stiff in the catch. Love the explosiveness though. Are you trying to do "power cleans" or is that your full range of motion?
Try getting a pair of used tires and making a stack of them. Did this all the time in my buddy's home gym when we did cleans. When you drop the weight, it lands on the tires and absorbs impact. Dont miss however, i broke my buddy's bar doing that with a 275 clean.. oops.
I have one tire already. Going to pick one up whenever I can. One of my sets of weights has plastic or something around it, that I am sure will break eventually. Going to get some sort of floor mat in the near future as well.
I got some good triple extension in my power cleaning today. Happy about that. No hop, just up on the toes
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ALSO OP.. I like the vids, just wondering though... I know your just teaching power cleans, why didn't your OLY coaches teach you a full clean? Your clean form is good, but your hips look really stiff in the catch. Love the explosiveness though. Are you trying to do "power cleans" or is that your full range of motion?
Huh?
Originally Posted by Grifts
I have one tire already. Going to pick one up whenever I can. One of my sets of weights has plastic or something around it, that I am sure will break eventually. Going to get some sort of floor mat in the near future as well.
I got some good triple extension in my power cleaning today. Happy about that. No hop, just up on the toes
Good stuff.
Be careful with tires because the barbell will bounce back if you are not using too much weight on the barbell (e.g. 115lbs). The barbell will literally bounce back and can snap your wrists/fingers.
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Hey man I truly appreciate you explaining how to correctly perform the power clean. I recently just started doing this again & now i realize not only was it taught wrong to me (in football) but i am still doing it wrong.
I added this back to my workout to add more explosion to help as a powerlifter. So far my sets/rep schemes are 3 x 8 & 5 x 1. My 8RM has been increasing about 10 lbs a week over the last 3 weeks and is now at 190 while my 1RM has stayed about the same at 230.
Can you help me choose a better sets/reps scheme that can incorporate both explosion & strength and that would also contribute to losing weight? I gained 80 lbs over a summer bc a college football coach led me to believe it was the "smart" thing to do. Least to say im no longer playing & its been a struggle to get it off. Im about 280 now and have lost 20 lbs total.
But yea if you could help me out i would appreciate it greatly!
Hey man I truly appreciate you explaining how to correctly perform the power clean. I recently just started doing this again & now i realize not only was it taught wrong to me (in football) but i am still doing it wrong.
I added this back to my workout to add more explosion to help as a powerlifter. So far my sets/rep schemes are 3 x 8 & 5 x 1. My 8RM has been increasing about 10 lbs a week over the last 3 weeks and is now at 190 while my 1RM has stayed about the same at 230.
Can you help me choose a better sets/reps scheme that can incorporate both explosion & strength and that would also contribute to losing weight? I gained 80 lbs over a summer bc a college football coach led me to believe it was the "smart" thing to do. Least to say im no longer playing & its been a struggle to get it off. Im about 280 now and have lost 20 lbs total.
But yea if you could help me out i would appreciate it greatly!
Never go above 5 reps in a single set for power cleans.
The best scheme I recommend (and whom others I've advised have benefited from) is: 10 sets of 2 reps with 1-2 mins rest between sets. Do that 3x week with different %s.
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