Just realized that life would be SO much better off not getting married/having a fam.

[mm44]

I'm seeing commercials about investing for retirement, and thinking.. It's so expensive and essentially will consume a huge amount of time (9-5) if you are trying to have a spouse/kids, own a house, pay bills, send kids to college.. etc..

If you were independent, though.. You could get laid on the side at will, and would have no ties in any area, assuming your occupation allowed for it. Living would be much more inexpensive, and would have much less stresses IMO.

Discuss, misc. I'm sure some of you share these thoughts.

[Rhythm825]

I have never wanted children. Ever. Most people get offended when they hear that, but I genuinely feel that way.

I've given speeches and written papers on why you shouldn't have kids.

Strong example: MSN put out a report a few years ago that detailed the average cost of children...

If you only have one child, the average cost from birth until 17 (no college included) was $360,000.

If you have 2 or more children, the average was $290,000 per child.

Marriage I'm still on the fence about, but there's no way on God's green earth that I'm having children.

[JailzBrah]

and die alone ? who will inherit your riches?

[Mrs Grudge]

i gotta have at least one kid. just someone to teach ****.

[mfitty9000]

Its one way to live I guess, I'd rather have the security of wife/gf at home just sex almost any time I want it as compared to trying to chase new pussy all the time.

I guess you have total self reliance which is cool but pretty sure the wife/gf I wind up with will work a nice career too so double income family is almost the norm now anyways. Children are expensive I guess but depending how you raise them costs can vary so wildly..mine wouldnt be THAT expensive. Clothes, sports, extra food, of course there are more expenses but shrug. Pretty sure by the time they'll older I'll be pretty loaded anyways but I'd like to see them learn the value of money and pay for college on their own anyways or live at home and do it on loans.

You are basically 20 and thinking of living playboy lifestyle forever which is pretty normal at that age. I think eventually most ppl want to settle down, what if all your friends get gfs and stop wanting to go chick hunting with you and you have nobody to go out with anymore. Some dudes live as players forever I think it would be lonely after a while. Plus one day you'll get old fat hairy and groce I mean unless you are george clooney you will not be pulling ass at 60 years old and at that age you'll just want kids/wife, srs

[mm44]

and die alone ? who will inherit your riches?

As far as dying alone, I would possibly marry later on in life.. Who knows. I just mean for a long time.

and.. money? who gives a **** about your money when your'e dead? give it to whoever you care about most.

i gotta have at least one kid. just someone to teach ****.

I understand this mentality, but can't imagine personally doing it now.

[Rhythm825]

and die alone ? who will inherit your riches?

Who the fukk cares?

Meet a nice person during your life, and give it to them.

And lol at people who want kids to "carry on the family name."

Your family hasn't done sh*t for 5 generations, what makes you think your little fukker is going to change anything?

[Shangius]

i gotta have at least one kid. just someone to teach ****.

Do it old Roman Emperor style. Adopt.

[DanYaSon747]

ive been operating on this notion since age 16
kids = no $, no life
wife = no life, possibly no sex

[NOMIEZVR4]

People sure are materialistic nowadays...for those that have never had the comfort of having a great family or people around you that care about you, its truly unfortunate.

[Rhythm825]

People sure are materialistic nowadays...for those that have never had the comfort of having a great family or people around you that care about you, its truly unfortunate.

Fellow Chicago brah, I am dissapoint.

Who is to say that your desire for a child or family isn't materialistic?

[soliduparrow]

Its one way to live I guess, I'd rather have the security of wife/gf at home just sex almost any time I want it as compared to trying to chase new pussy all the time.

I guess you have total self reliance which is cool but pretty sure the wife/gf I wind up with will work a nice career too so double income family is almost the norm now anyways. Children are expensive I guess but depending how you raise them costs can vary so wildly..mine wouldnt be THAT expensive. Clothes, sports, extra food, of course there are more expenses but shrug. Pretty sure by the time they'll older I'll be pretty loaded anyways but I'd like to see them learn the value of money and pay for college on their own anyways or live at home and do it on loans.

You are basically 20 and thinking of living playboy lifestyle forever which is pretty normal at that age. I think eventually most ppl want to settle down, what if all your friends get gfs and stop wanting to go chick hunting with you and you have nobody to go out with anymore. Some dudes live as players forever I think it would be lonely after a while. Plus one day you'll get old fat hairy and groce I mean unless you are george clooney you will not be pulling ass at 60 years old and at that age you'll just want kids/wife, srs

double income only affects the size of house that you can buy; /most/all other costs are doubled along with the double income so you dont end up in any better shape ( and females these days will actually end up costing more than just their fair share due to their shopping habits and self control issues.). you can rent a big house with a roomate if you want the double income lifestyle without marriage.

[FutureMiscCEO]

I have never wanted children. Ever. Most people get offended when they hear that, but I genuinely feel that way.

I've given speeches and written papers on why you shouldn't have kids.

Strong example: MSN put out a report a few years ago that detailed the average cost of children...

If you only have one child, the average cost from birth until 17 (no college included) was $360,000.

If you have 2 or more children, the average was $290,000 per child.

Marriage I'm still on the fence about, but there's no way on God's green earth that I'm having children.

One thing's for sure, marriage is worse than kids (imo).

[PrimeraRS]

Ill adopt a bbc and raise him to be an assassin

[RESILIENCY]

Yeah until you hit 30 and all your friends have families and you are going to be that bald creep guy...you know that guy.

[fitnessbyjay]

Yeah until you hit 30 and all your friends have families and you are going to be that bald creep guy...you know that guy.

This guy?


Seriously though, you can just as well be the good looking, in-shape bachelor/cool uncle that has a nice house and a sweet car, and has plenty of money to live life like he wants.

[Torpeda]

Who the fukk cares?

Meet a nice person during your life, and give it to them.

And lol at people who want kids to "carry on the family name."

Your family hasn't done sh*t for 5 generations, what makes you think your little fukker is going to change anything?

But my Mom said that I am special.

[Ultra_Magnus]

IF you cant afford kids you suck at life anyways.

Lol @ tryign to save money by not having kids.

Im in the camp of just going out and making more money

[JohnnyDestroyer]

I have never wanted children. Ever. Most people get offended when they hear that, but I genuinely feel that way.

I've given speeches and written papers on why you shouldn't have kids.

Strong example: MSN put out a report a few years ago that detailed the average cost of children...

If you only have one child, the average cost from birth until 17 (no college included) was $360,000.

If you have 2 or more children, the average was $290,000 per child.

Marriage I'm still on the fence about, but there's no way on God's green earth that I'm having children.

Fate favors the fearless. Children are how we gain immortality. I dont want the human gene pool tainted with your blatent fear. Its disgusting frankly.

It's not for everyone, and it's certainly not for chicken****s. I love my kid, she's cute, my wifes really hot, she can cook, and do yoga, and has great taste. My wardrobe has improved since marrying. Theres a lot of merits to having children and getting married, I suppose thats why so many people have done it.

Come on son....pussy, good scotch, tossing the football around with little timmy in the yard.


Your ****ing beta bro.

Beta's dont mate...thats how I know.

[soliduparrow]

the bald creepy guys are creepy because they have always been creepy; not getting married does not make one creepy.

[captain_marvel]

Having children is selfish anyway. You're 20 so you dont really know what you're talking about

No marriage before 30 and adopt a kid.

[RESILIENCY]

Seriously though, you can just as well be the good looking, in-shape bachelor/cool uncle that has a nice house and a sweet car, and has plenty of money to live life like he wants.

dreams...

[fieldysnutz]

and die alone ? who will inherit your riches?

he's not going to care when he's fukcing dead. donate it to a good cause or charity, that would be a way better way of giving up your "riches" then giving it to your spoiled ass kids who will probably just waste it.

[soliduparrow]

Fate favors the fearless. Children are how we gain immortality. I dont want the human gene pool tainted with your blatent fear. Its disgusting frankly.

It's not for everyone, and it's certainly not for chicken****s. I love my kid, she's cute, my wifes really hot, she can cook, and do yoga, and has great taste. My wardrobe has improved since marrying. Theres a lot of merits to having children and getting married, I suppose thats why so many people have done it.

Come on son....pussy, good scotch, tossing the football around with little timmy in the yard.


Your ****ing beta bro.

Beta's dont mate...thats how I know.

mating is the easiest thing that a human can do. how can you be impressed when the biggest losers have the most children these days? besides, the vast majority of your genes are shared with other humans so it doesnt really matter if you yourself have children ( if all you are concerned with is keeping your genes alive). also when you reproduce, many of your genes dont even get passed on to the child.

[Mike1991]

Thats great, if you dont want those things

Reproducing is the sole reason we are on this planet, I want to have as many kids as I can possibly afford. Family are the only thing that really matters in life imo..

[fitnessbyjay]

dreams...

LOL, it's not too far fetched really

[swole-striation]

as if let a woman control you

be who you want OP

dont listen to any bish out there

[soliduparrow]

Thats great, if you dont want those things

Reproducing is the sole reason we are on this planet, I want to have as many kids as I can possibly afford. Family are the only thing that really matters in life imo..

reproducing is the sole reason because if we didnt reproduce we wouldnt exist. ex: organism A has a desire to reproduce, organism B does not. Organism A passes on the desire to reproduce to his children, organism B does not have children so his non-desire is not passed on. now we are left with only organisms that have a desire to reproduce. therefore, the meaning of life is now to reproduce.

The universe doesnt care if you reproduce: only silly organisms with self perpetuating desires care.

[Ed_Hitchens]

Never wanted kids. Whatever that "urge" or instinct is, my wife and I don't seem to have it. We like kids, just have no interest in raising our own. Parenting is simply a lifestyle choice, not an obligation. Too many folks just popping out kids on autopilot without giving a toss to the consequences.

Don't have 'em unless you really want them and are 100% committed to nurturing, raising, and dealing with all the ups and downs of parenting. You take what you get and you might not get that kid who loves to toss a football, is interested in the same things you are, or wants to live up to whatever expectations you set for them. Life is not a fantasy and reality can sometimes be a hard pill to swallow. You might have the greatest kid on earth or just another nameless faceless drone of history who contributes nothing of value to life whatsoever, despite your best intentions.

Be sure. It is not a decision to make lightly. My wife and I are in our 40's and have a great lifestyle. But it's best for us. Some folks thrive in the family environment and others just need more quiet time to reflect, read books, make advances towards personal development, whatever. Wouldn't change a thing. We like to travel, move around as we please, and spend time together doing things we enjoy. Freedom is a luxury that you will miss once it is gone.

[seanb1979]

You just described my life OP. Got laid by a smoking hottie today. I have extra money to buy fun stuff. I have an awesome dog. Life is good.