Hello all.
I have a question, can I use deads as the only exercise for the leg mass?
During the deads the legs are bent and they do start the lift.
Yes, range of motion is 1/3 which is not very good. Howeever I wonder if the muscle needs to work through the full ROM at all to see the growth. After all sprinters have large quads and the sprinting is using only about 1/3 of the legs ROM!
After all, you dont need full ROM for traps/forearms/abs/lower back - so why should the quads be different?
Sure the results might not be as good as the squat, but I am trying to go on a super super abriviated program and focus on the most important lifts.
I was thinking would 10-20+ sets of heavy deads (315-450ish) be good for quad mass?
I really dislike the squat because of its techniqality and my body proportions/neurological factors.
I can dead 470 - raw. I cant squat more than 330ish. I figure that 400s of pounds for 1/3 (of squat ROM) would be alright - especially if I add volume.
I am trying to see what a super abbriviated program can do
(I want to see what happens if I do deadlifts and db benches only)
So if I lift a total workload of 10,000 pounds for the deadlift in a workout, will it be alright for my legs?
Thank you very much.
Squat is way overrated. Deadlift beats the squat hands down.
please reply!
thank you!
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06-25-2003, 07:43 PM #1
Deadlifts for leg mass??? Can I use deads for the leg mass?
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06-25-2003, 08:01 PM #2
Re: Deadlifts for leg mass??? Can I use deads for the leg mass?
Originally posted by Droner
Squat is way overrated. Deadlift beats the squat hands down.
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06-25-2003, 08:10 PM #3
Re: Re: Deadlifts for leg mass??? Can I use deads for the leg mass?
Originally posted by Ihateeveryone
I think you answered your own question with that statement. I don't agree that Deadlifts are better for building leg mass, but they are better IMO as an overall mass builder. I actually do em Stiff Leg style, so I hit my hams and lower back better - but I'd imagine if you could set up a platform a foot or two high, you'd be able to get a full Squat in anyway, if you lowered the bar past your feet. Dunno if this is safe, but I'd stick to Squats for direct leg work.
More specifically, are deads OK for leg mass (provided I do enough deads). Sure they arent as good as squat for the legs,
but will I expereince growth in my legs if I focus A LOT (30-60 sets of deads per week) on the deads only?
thank you!!!
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06-25-2003, 08:21 PM #4
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06-26-2003, 11:31 AM #7
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Next week I will be starting a new program that is based on the deadlift.
Much like yourself, only not as strong, I can deadlift much more than I can squat. So I decided to see how dropping the squat would affect me.
The only difference is that I will be using a trap bar. I will try only doing trap bar deadlifts for my legs, aside from calf work, to see what happens.
From what I have read the trap bar deadlift can be as effective as the squat in building leg mass, especially for those of us who don't seem to be doing well with squat.
My suggestion is to just do it and see what happens."Pain is a state of MIND -
- Mass is a state of BEING"
This one is my own.
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06-26-2003, 11:56 AM #8
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06-27-2003, 07:24 AM #13Originally posted by Droner
If I am able to tolerate 20-60 sets of deads, a week
and NOT overtrain. Would my thighs grow?
thank you!
By training so often you are probably doing two things. You are either trying to do too many sets and are not training intensely enough to stimulate growth. Or if you are properly stimulating the muscle but working everyday you are not giving your body enough time to actually grow any bigger before tearing it up again. You will likely lose muscle doing. Your muscle will break itself done trying to repair the rest of it.
Understand this. You do not grow while lifting. You grow while resting. You grow while sleeping. Lifting more does not mean growing more.
Not enough rest = No growth
Period. There is no exception to this. None.
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06-27-2003, 07:27 AM #14
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06-27-2003, 09:01 AM #15
let's put it this way, if you are "able" to do 20-60 sets of deads per week, you are not going heavy enough.
When I see guys working out for cosmetic reasons, I see vanity exposing them in the worst way, as cartoon characters, billboards for imbalance and insecurity. Strength reveals itself through character. - Henry Rollins
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05-07-2019, 10:54 AM #21
I'm just curious I I been lifting like 4 months now I'm not shure if I'm doing enough for my legs and could use advice im doing squats and fro t squats leg curls caft raise but my upper bodys geting a lot like chest push ups flat press incline press back bbrows db rows dead lifts for shoulders shoulder press latrail raise with bent flys tricep extentions with tricep curls and ezbar curls with db curls rist curls reverse curls I'm trying to hit every angle on the body in a full body routine I do this every othere day it takes 45mins to a hour I'm doing pyramids sets with legs 15/13/11upper 12/10/8are my legs getting enough or should I ad leg extentions or scrap that and do lounges any infoe would help
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05-08-2019, 11:56 AM #22
Deadlifts work a lot of the posterior Chain and they do work the quads for sure. you might want something to hit your quads good too! I suppose if you absolutely hate doing squats you can find variations but you should try and get some good compound lifts for your quads. Leg press or maybe hack squats could be a good alternative but just keep that in mind.
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05-08-2019, 01:07 PM #23
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05-08-2019, 01:10 PM #24
Yes, especially sumo, sumo hits the legs a lot
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