Presidential Poll - (This one's not anonymous)

[kusok]

They're behind numerous terrorist attacks that occured since the 80's(the U.S. marine backs bombing in Lebanon comes to mind), hostage incidents such as when they took all those Americans hostage and finally Ronald Reagan got them out, they're funding insurgents in Iraq, and use proxies forces such as Hamas and Hezbollah. As of yet they haven't used conventional warfare because they know that if they did **** would go down, and they'd be done for.

You do realize that the hostage crisis you speak of (1979-) was blowback for US overthrowing iranian government years earlier, right?

You have to understand that west started it because west made money off that oil. And also, by continuing these wars US will continue to incite more hatred, invite more attacks, and give further incentive to the bad guys.

[ONtop888]

Interestingly... I never said or supported any of those things you mentioned.

You did say that not getting involved in foreign affairs, non-interventionist, has "f@cked us over." Then, I offered a common example of how even our non-military "intervention" ends up f@cking their people and us. I did not claim that you support this specific example.

[kusok]

I like a lot of his policies

9-9-9 and the chilean model are awesome

666 plan for 2012. Nice going guys...

Hey I assume you're joking, no sane human being would vote for someone who can't predict where the economy is going (Cain missed the housing bubble days before it burst, Ron Paul had it predicted flawlessly years ahead), Cain doesn't know China has nukes, knew nothing about Libya, and his 999 plan is so bad that the guy who wrote it for Cain abandoned it after Schiff showed that it's actually a 9999 plan (correct, 4 nines)


Cain is a joke.

[Jnoah18]

You do realize that the hostage crisis you speak of (1979-) was blowback for US overthrowing iranian government years earlier, right?

You have to understand that west started it because west made money off that oil. And also, by continuing these wars US will continue to incite more hatred, invite more attacks, and give further incentive to the bad guys.

Iran is a realist country. It would of done the events it chose to do anyway, western connections or not. Its all about Iran and Iran only. Iran did some unbelievable things during the Iran-Iraq war, which have nothing to do with the US. Your in la la land if you really think US is responsible for modern day Iran. Oh and btw, your pose told me in another thread that USA does not get a drop of oil from Iran, so either your right or they are.

[Lord_Lemon]

666 plan for 2012. Nice going guys...

Hey I assume you're joking, no sane human being would vote for someone who can't predict where the economy is going (Cain missed the housing bubble days before it burst, Ron Paul had it predicted flawlessly years ahead), Cain doesn't know China has nukes, knew nothing about Libya, and his 999 plan is so bad that the guy who wrote it for Cain abandoned it after Schiff showed that it's actually a 9999 plan (correct, 4 nines)


Cain is a joke.

link on shciff and creator abandoning 999?

and Cain knew about much about the liyba resistance as much as anyone else. what he said was a legitamate answer, he just stumbled trying to think about it first and fumbled around his wording.
cain knows china has nukes. your taking what he said out of context.

[HitItHard]

link on shciff and creator abandoning 999?

and Cain knew about much about the liyba resistance as much as anyone else. what he said was a legitamate answer, he just stumbled trying to think about it first and fumbled around his wording.
cain knows china has nukes. your taking what he said out of context.

like i havn't heard that one before regarding cain....

lulz

[kusok]

link on shciff and creator abandoning 999?

and Cain knew about much about the liyba resistance as much as anyone else. what he said was a legitamate answer, he just stumbled trying to think about it first and fumbled around his wording.
cain knows china has nukes. your taking what he said out of context.

Let me just get this straight: you can't google Peter Schiff 999 or youtube those terms???



Here is your genius at work:





http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1097244.html

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/2429...ent-months.htm


Short list of Cain facts:

08/17/2005 - He wrote an article titled, "The Media Say the Economy Is Horrible, So It Must Be True."
10/18/2006 - He wrote an article titled, "More Economic Bull from Media Bears."
02/04/2008 - He wrote an article endorsing Mitt Romney as his #1 choice among GOP primary candidates.
09/01/2008 - He said America was in an "imaginary recession" one week before the economic collapse.
10/20/2008 - After the collapse, he chastised the "free market purists" who opposed bailouts, & said TARP was a good deal for America.
03/26/2011 - His statement that he wouldn't allow any Muslims on his cabinet. (since retracted, mostly)
05/22/2011 - His total ignorance of the Palestinian "Right of Return" issue.
05/22/2011 - He said he wouldn't give Americans his plan on Afghanistan until after he is elected.
05/23/2011 - He misquoted the Declaration of Independence in his FORMAL candidacy announcement.
05/23/2011 - Cain managed his employee's retirements irresponsibly; lawsuit said.
05/25/2011 - A lawsuit was brought up on him for emulating Enron.
05/25/2011 - He says that the Patriot Act is "about 90% right on."
06/10/2011 - His statement that Gun Control is a state issue.
06/13/2011 - He falsely said that Barack Obama was raised in Kenya.
07/17/2011 - He said that any community has the right to ban mosques, showing utterly no regard for property rights or free religion.
09/22/2011 - He cannot commit to abolishing even one federal agency; instead says the EPA should "start over" & be more responsible.
09/28/2011 - His statement that African-Americans are brainwashed against conservatives.
09/30/2011 - Cain denies flip-flopping on auditing the Federal Reserve.
10/xx/2011 - His purposeful mispronunciation of "Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan"
10/xx/2011 - Constitutional scholar Kevin Gutzman calls Cain's 9-9-9 plan unconstitutional.
10/05/2011 - He flip-flopped on the assassination of Anwar Al-Awlaki.
10/10/2011 - His claim that he didn't want to run -- God told him he had to.
10/11/2011 - Cain quotes the Pokemon Theme Song as inspirational poetry in a Presidential debate.
10/12/2011 - He endorses Alan Greenspan, father of the Real Estate Bubble, as a model for how to run the Fed.
10/12/2011 - He totally missed the impending burst of the housing bubble & economic collapse in 2008.
10/16/2011 - His admission that he doesn't know what the neoconservative movement is.
10/16/2011 - His gives a speech about a putting deadly electrified fence on the Mexican border. Under fire, says it was a joke. Then repeats the speech the next day.
10/18/2011 - His reversal on negotiating with terrorists.

[kusok]

(continued)

10/21/2011 - His belief in numerology (45 is his number); Says "signs from above" have guided his life.
10/21/2011 - His relationship to Rod Parsley, an islamophobic pastor.
10/21/2011 - He says that his 9-9-9 plan will no longer flat and fair; now gives exemptions for poor areas.
10/22/2011 - He spent $100,000 of donor money to buy his OWN book, boosting sales and lining his own pockets.
10/22/2011 - His lack of understanding how the Constitution is amended.
10/24/2011 - His ambiguous statement that abortion should be illegal, but ALSO a woman's choice.
10/24/2011 - Cain says that flip-flopping proves that he is presidential.
10/24/2011 - He spent millions of dollars running on racist political ads in 2004 and 2006.
10/24/2011 - The lack of a serious organization in many states.
10/24/2011 - He gets his news from a one-page report of international concerns "almost every day."
10/30/2011 - He complains that campaigning is "too tough." Just you wait, Mr. Cain.
10/30/2011 - His campaign may have violated Federal campaign finance laws.
10/31/2011 - His belief that China is "working on a nuclear program" when they've had nukes since 1964.
11/01/2011 - Cain voted for Bill Clinton in 1992.
11/01/2011 - He says that he will surround Iran with warships & point ballistic missiles at them until they retaliate.
11/01/2011 - His campaign manager, Mark Block, is exposed for a 1997 election scandal in Wisconsin.
11/03/2011 - He met in a 1-on-1 breakfast meeting with globalist war-criminal, Henry Kissinger.
11/04/2011 - His statement that he's a "Koch Brother from another mother."
11/05/2011 - His inability to distinguish between defined benefit plan and premium support plan when speaking of medicare reform.
11/11/2011 - He says he'd like to be Secretary of Defense so he could build up the already bloated military.
11/13/2011 - He likened himself to Moses being commanded by God to run for office.
11/14/2011 - He stated that the majority of Muslims have extremist views.
11/14/2011 - He has no discernible plan for Libya; yet is critical of Obama.
11/14/2011 - He is puzzled at Ron Paul for wanting to end Federal agencies. "Can't we fix something?"
11/14/2011 - He backs collective bargaining for Federal employees.
11/15/2011 - He offered Henry Kissinger a position as Secretary of State.
11/16/2011 - He said, "I'm Not Supposed To Know Anything About Foreign Policy."
11/19/2011 - He said in a speech that he was afraid of foreign-sounding names



The sexual harassment saga
10/30/2011 - Politico breaks a story about sexual harassment settlements that took place in the late 1990s.
10/31/2011 - Responding to question, Cain asks interviewer, "Have YOU ever been accused of sexual harassment?"
11/xx/2011 - He repeatedly changed his story throughout the course of this whole harassment story.
11/01/2011 - The National Restaurant Assn. paid a woman $35,000 to settle a harassment dispute against Cain in the late 1990s.
11/01/2011 - He calls the coverage of the harassment settlements a "witch hunt"
11/01/2011 - He first says he has no knowledge of any settlements and then recalls them later the same day.
11/02/2011 - Cain accuses Rick Perry's campaign of exposing his settlements (without evidence)
11/02/2011 - Cain accuses Rahm Emmanuel of exposing his settlements (without evidence)
11/02/2011 - An Iowa radio host accuses Cain of inappropriate remarks toward two female staff members.
11/02/2011 - An Oklahoma consultant claims that he witnessed Cain harassing women in the 1990s.
11/03/2011 - The National Restaurant Assn. paid a woman $45,000 to settle a harassment dispute against Cain in the late 1990s.
11/03/2011 - Cain threatens to sue Politico for reporting about factual settlements from the 1990s.
11/05/2011 - He demanded that the sexual harassment stories be taken off the table.
11/05/2011 - He had his campaign manager send the guide to jounalistic ethics to reporters who keep asking about the sexual harassment charges.
11/07/2011 - Another accuser, Sharon Bialek, says he grabbed her head and pushed it toward his crotch.
11/07/2011 - Donna Donella said Cain tried to get her to set him up on a date with a woman at a seminar in Egypt in 2002.
11/08/2011 - Karen Kraushaar comes forward as receiving one of the settlements.
11/09/2011 - Cain's campaign manager lies on TV to make one of the accusers look less credible.
11/14/2011 - A witness reaffirms that Sharon Bialek told him in 1997 about being "inappropriately touched" by Cain.

10/04/2011 - Cain once said that Tiger Woods should run for president because of his personal attributes. The same Tiger Woods that cheated on his spouse with everything that had a pulse.

[Ashton117]

Nice Kuosk. I think I saw what you wrote on Newt Gingrich as well. You should make a thread with info about the GOP candidates

[kusok]

Iran is a realist country. It would of done the events it chose to do anyway, western connections or not. Its all about Iran and Iran only. Iran did some unbelievable things during the Iran-Iraq war, which have nothing to do with the US. Your in la la land if you really think US is responsible for modern day Iran. Oh and btw, your pose told me in another thread that USA does not get a drop of oil from Iran, so either your right or they are.

Iraq attacked Iran with US's help, resources, and command.

Responsible for modern day Iran? US has been overthrowing democratically elected governments and installing military dictators around the world, and Iran 1953 is a nice example of that. West relied heavily on iran oil, and sent in the coup to steal it. Blowback is a bitch, ain't it?

You paint Iran as evil. this is such a childish stupid view. Iranian people are exactly like you and me wether oyu like it or not (I can see you don't). Smartest and most humble person I ever knew was a poor student from Iran... Stop believing propaganda! They lie to you! (Cue in Charlie Chaplin speech

LOL at US not getting oil from Iran at this time, no **** Sherlock... US is currently threatening everyone not to do business with Iran's oil or else... (read sanctions)

[kusok]

Nice Kuosk. I think I saw what you wrote on Newt Gingrich as well. You should make a thread with info about the GOP candidates

A Newt supporter once told me that he'd be better off with Newt as president. I ask, with veri-chip or without?


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_1...plant-company/

[Ashton117]

A Newt supporter once told me that he'd be better off with Newt as president. I ask, with veri-chip or without?


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_1...plant-company/

My aunt is a very influential figure in politics. I was disappointed at Thanksgiving when she told me she supported Newt. She was definitely aware of all the corrupt stuff he's done and even things I hadn't heard but she thought he was the most intelligent candidate. I asked her about Paul and she said she admired him but didn't think he had any electability

[really_stupid]

link on shciff and creator abandoning 999?

and Cain knew about much about the liyba resistance as much as anyone else. what he said was a legitamate answer, he just stumbled trying to think about it first and fumbled around his wording.
cain knows china has nukes. your taking what he said out of context.

I'm seriously loling right now. Are you serious? The only detail he knew about the entire Libya thing was that the dictators name was Gaddafi. And then he went on for 5 minutes about he would have done a better job assessing the situation and figuring out who was involved. He said something like he would have assessed who all was involved blah blah blah. The guy questioning him asked "You don't think they did any of that" and he replied with he didn't know. So he just went on for 5 minutes saying he would have done a better job then at the end he said he didn't even know what was done. Would find transcript or use exact quotes but too lazy. It's right there in the video clear as can be.

Cain is nothing but an actor.

lol at video kusok posted. he wrote papers and came to a conclusion based off reports he was getting from the media. LOL. Basically everything he says makes me smh. I don't even understand how he is even in the position he is in right now. Guess shows you how stupid some of the American people are.

[Streetbull]

I find the difference between this 'poll' and national polls fascinating. Do ppl seriously believe that a populace that overwhelming voted in Barack Obama and all the liberals as recently as 2006 and 2008 would now magically vote for Obama's complete opposite (Ron Paul)? Amercians LOVE LOVE LOVE big nanny government. They LOVE LOVE LOVE free health care, free retirement, free food (47 millions on food stamps), two years of unemployment checks. They LOVE LOVE LOVE seeing small independent businessmen destroyed in the interest of 'fairness'. (How dare you be rich while others starve?!!)

The IRS, for ex, was created ostensibly for making everyone pay their 'fair share' but we all know it was created in order to destroy. Most people can't accomplish anything but they can chuckle with delight in destruction, like a bully who punches the brilliant kid in the face and says: "I can't make an 'A' but I can bash in your face!"

Look at the EPA, for another ex. "Private businessmen want filthy water, filthy air, and to just ruin everything!!" but bureaucrats are completely trustworthy: 'Well, I'VE got a LAWWWWWWWWWWW!"

In a republic, people generally get the government they want. What we have today is what we wanted. We desired it, we wished for it, we voted for it. And we have gotten JUST EXACTLY what we deserved.

[kusok]

My aunt is a very influential figure in politics. I was disappointed at Thanksgiving when she told me she supported Newt. She was definitely aware of all the corrupt stuff he's done and even things I hadn't heard but she thought he was the most intelligent candidate. I asked her about Paul and she said she admired him but didn't think he had any electability

You should bring to her attention that he is in 1st place clear by himself in Iowa, 2nd in NH, 1st in cumulative Straw Polls, and of course easily 1st among young people (read internet) and military.

This parroting people do about "unelectable" is really sad indeed, I heard otherwise very smart people say that as well, they are just repeating what establishment drove into their minds. Paul has been elected to congress what 10 times? Unelectable? lol...

[flairon]

Why does anyone even care what any candidate did in Iowa? Iowa straw polls are not as relevant as they were a couple decades ago

[Lord_Lemon]

Let me just get this straight: you can't google Peter Schiff 999 or youtube those terms???



Here is your genius at work:





http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1097244.html

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/2429...ent-months.htm


Short list of Cain facts:

08/17/2005 - He wrote an article titled, "The Media Say the Economy Is Horrible, So It Must Be True."
10/18/2006 - He wrote an article titled, "More Economic Bull from Media Bears."
02/04/2008 - He wrote an article endorsing Mitt Romney as his #1 choice among GOP primary candidates.
09/01/2008 - He said America was in an "imaginary recession" one week before the economic collapse.
10/20/2008 - After the collapse, he chastised the "free market purists" who opposed bailouts, & said TARP was a good deal for America.
03/26/2011 - His statement that he wouldn't allow any Muslims on his cabinet. (since retracted, mostly)
05/22/2011 - His total ignorance of the Palestinian "Right of Return" issue.
05/22/2011 - He said he wouldn't give Americans his plan on Afghanistan until after he is elected.
05/23/2011 - He misquoted the Declaration of Independence in his FORMAL candidacy announcement.
05/23/2011 - Cain managed his employee's retirements irresponsibly; lawsuit said.
05/25/2011 - A lawsuit was brought up on him for emulating Enron.
05/25/2011 - He says that the Patriot Act is "about 90% right on."
06/10/2011 - His statement that Gun Control is a state issue.
06/13/2011 - He falsely said that Barack Obama was raised in Kenya.
07/17/2011 - He said that any community has the right to ban mosques, showing utterly no regard for property rights or free religion.
09/22/2011 - He cannot commit to abolishing even one federal agency; instead says the EPA should "start over" & be more responsible.
09/28/2011 - His statement that African-Americans are brainwashed against conservatives.
09/30/2011 - Cain denies flip-flopping on auditing the Federal Reserve.
10/xx/2011 - His purposeful mispronunciation of "Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan"
10/xx/2011 - Constitutional scholar Kevin Gutzman calls Cain's 9-9-9 plan unconstitutional.
10/05/2011 - He flip-flopped on the assassination of Anwar Al-Awlaki.
10/10/2011 - His claim that he didn't want to run -- God told him he had to.
10/11/2011 - Cain quotes the Pokemon Theme Song as inspirational poetry in a Presidential debate.
10/12/2011 - He endorses Alan Greenspan, father of the Real Estate Bubble, as a model for how to run the Fed.
10/12/2011 - He totally missed the impending burst of the housing bubble & economic collapse in 2008.
10/16/2011 - His admission that he doesn't know what the neoconservative movement is.
10/16/2011 - His gives a speech about a putting deadly electrified fence on the Mexican border. Under fire, says it was a joke. Then repeats the speech the next day.
10/18/2011 - His reversal on negotiating with terrorists.

-Schiff basically endorsed 999 to an extent. You didn't provide any proof that 999's creator has abandoned it.
-Cain didn't predict the housing collapse. Guess what, almost nobody else did either, and he didn't have an insider politicians perspective.
-Cain didn't know what the right of return was. It's not important at all. He still came to a technically sound answer.
-Your copy/paste sounds like some disgruntled ex who has to find fault with every little thing to feel better about themselves -- in your case Ron Paul. But you're just doing him a disservice by being so blatantly bias.
-Huffington post lol

[metroins]

You should bring to her attention that he is in 1st place clear by himself in Iowa, 2nd in NH, 1st in cumulative Straw Polls, and of course easily 1st among young people (read internet) and military.

This parroting people do about "unelectable" is really sad indeed, I heard otherwise very smart people say that as well, they are just repeating what establishment drove into their minds. Paul has been elected to congress what 10 times? Unelectable? lol...

He's gotta get the baby boomers and seniors on board, which he cannot do.

[kusok]

Why does anyone even care what any candidate did in Iowa? Iowa straw polls are not as relevant as they were a couple decades ago

???

The main stream official prognosis is that he is going to win the Iowa primary election. The election coming up. The caucus. aka 2012 presidential (actual, real) election. Not a Straw Poll or phone or internet poll. He is 4 points ahead of all as of last week. You're confused it seems.

[kusok]

-Schiff basically endorsed 999 to an extent. You didn't provide any proof that 999's creator has abandoned it.
-Cain didn't predict the housing collapse. Guess what, almost nobody else did either, and he didn't have an insider politicians perspective.
-Cain didn't know what the right of return was. It's not important at all. He still came to a technically sound answer.
-Your copy/paste sounds like some disgruntled ex who has to find fault with every little thing to feel better about themselves -- in your case Ron Paul. But you're just doing him a disservice by being so blatantly bias.
-Huffington post lol

I can see that you're not interested in learning, you have made up your mind to vote for another puppet lobbyist scum. it's ok, have fun

As far as your comments go, use google, creator of 999 changed it to 909 after realizing people aren't going for it. Just google it for Christ sakes. Schiff is not endorsing 999 you idiot, you clearly explains that it would raise taxes on many people, and "devil is in the details" as he put it. Your claim that Ron Paul had insider knowledge is idiotic, what insider knowledge??? The list I presented is factual, if you wish to dispute any of it's points, please google them or ask me to provide a source, and I will.

cheers,

[kusok]

He's gotta get the baby boomers and seniors on board, which he cannot do.

That remains to be seen. Most seniors and baby boomers (70%) want the wars to end, and no other candidate would ever end them, we all know this.

But yes, you're correct, he may lose, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try.

[Ashton117]

-Schiff basically endorsed 999 to an extent. You didn't provide any proof that 999's creator has abandoned it.
-Cain didn't predict the housing collapse. Guess what, almost nobody else did either, and he didn't have an insider politicians perspective.
-Cain didn't know what the right of return was. It's not important at all. He still came to a technically sound answer.
-Your copy/paste sounds like some disgruntled ex who has to find fault with every little thing to feel better about themselves -- in your case Ron Paul. But you're just doing him a disservice by being so blatantly bias.
-Huffington post lol

[MikeJones77]

[Lord_Lemon]

I can see that you're not interested in learning, you have made up your mind to vote for another puppet lobbyist scum. it's ok, have fun

Im not voting for him. Just giving him fair treatment because you are throwing out false accusations and propaganda to help your agenda.

As far as your comments go, use google, creator of 999 changed it to 909 after realizing people aren't going for it. Just google it for Christ sakes. Schiff is not endorsing 999 you idiot, you clearly explains that it would raise taxes on many people, and "devil is in the details" as he put it. Your claim that Ron Paul had insider knowledge is idiotic, what insider knowledge??? The list I presented is factual, if you wish to dispute any of it's points, please google them or ask me to provide a source, and I will.

-lol, you're full of **** and a liar. Creator of 999 never abandoned it like you said. It's still 999 except for low income people. There's no perfect economic plan and just like any other, 999 will be a work in progress until the day it may be signed into law. It will probably be very different then than it is now.
-Inside knowledge via being on various boards and committees. He would have a much bigger idea of what's going on than someone in the private sector like Herman Cain.
-Your copy paste list is littered with a bunch of petty diatribe. My previous analogy pretty much summed it up.

[Ashton117]

Im not voting for him. Just giving him fair treatment because you are throwing out false accusations and propaganda to help your agenda.



-lol, you're full of **** and a liar. Creator of 999 never abandoned it like you said. It's still 999 except for low income people. There's no perfect economic plan and just like any other, 999 will be a work in progress until the day it may be signed into law. It will probably be very different then than it is now.
-schiff had more good to say about 999 than bad.
-Inside knowledge via being on various boards and committees. He would have a much bigger idea of what's going on than someone in the private sector like Herman Cain.
-Your copy paste list is littered with a bunch of petty diatribe. Much early analogy pretty much summed it up.

Please watch the vid I posted. 999 is so filled with problems it will never work

[Lord_Lemon]

Please watch the vid I posted. 999 is so filled with problems it will never work[/img]

I watched the vid. You use Schiff to knock 999 and then say it will never work, when Schiff himself said it's better than the system we have now in the video you posted.

quite contradictory on your part

and the tax policy center changed the assumptions

[kusok]

Im not voting for him. Just giving him fair treatment because you are throwing out false accusations and propaganda to help your agenda.



-lol, you're full of **** and a liar. Creator of 999 never abandoned it like you said. It's still 999 except for low income people. There's no perfect economic plan and just like any other, 999 will be a work in progress until the day it may be signed into law. It will probably be very different then than it is now.
-Inside knowledge via being on various boards and committees. He would have a much bigger idea of what's going on than someone in the private sector like Herman Cain.
-Your copy paste list is littered with a bunch of petty diatribe. My previous analogy pretty much summed it up.

The guy who made the plan (because Cain is a f_cking moron and can't do it himself) S. Moore has since changed his mind and said Cain has to make it a 909 instead of 999 because people aren't going for it, why not just google it??? Really man...

Sure there is a perfect tax plan! Ron Paul's 000 plan. Where people keep their income, and government is small and doesn't waste trillions.

Ron Paul had insider knowledge and Cain didn't? Cain was the chairman of the Fed and a Washington lobbyist! Cain is the very definition of an insider. While Ron Paul has been excluded by the establishment and if anything always kept out.

If you dispute any of the things on the list, please ask and I will provide source.

Who are you voting for?


cheers,

[Shoesfly]

In Chrome, you can open an Incognito window and vote unlimited times in these polls, even without being logged in to BB.com. Just letting you guys know.

[Ashton117]

I watched the vid. You use Schiff to knock 999 and then say it will never work, when Schiff himself said it's better than the system we have now in the video you posted.

quite contradictory on your part

and the tax policy center changed the assumptions

Ok, I stand corrected. But can you explain how the adjustment to the 999 plan so it doesn't harm the lower class works? It has to tax exemption zones I believe.

[JamesMUSCLE]

Ron Paul