First disadvantage of being healthy..

[chezno3]

I just got an assignment for my nutrition class that says to make one diet and one lifestyle change for three days and write an essay on it. Here are my options.

Diet
-Cut back on fat and cholesterol
-Choose low fat diary
-Add more Omega 3's to your diet
-Incorporate moer "healthy" unsaturated fats such as nuts
-No fried foods
-Cut back on hydrogenated oils
-Cut your sodium intake by eating fresh, unprocessed foods

Lifestyle
-Add more physical activity
-Don't smoke
-Limit alcohol to 1-2 servings a day
-Have your blood pressure or cholesterol checked

I already do every single one of those things for bodybuilding (excluding having my blood/cholesterol checked). So there's nothing I can change, which means there's nothing I can write about! I'm ticked. Gonna talk to the professor and see if there's anything else I could do.

[spiderman997]

Why do you cut back on fat and cholesterol. Cholesterol turns into testosterone you poof.

[Xuaxace]

what is wrong with high fat diary?



And also, aware me If I'm wrong, but the body can easily regulate sodium levels, so dietary sodium isn't that big of a concern? unless you have heart disease that is. (This comes back to mind from a thread in 2009, lukengood was on it)

[7399martyn]

Opportunity cost, theres always something you give up when you opt for something else.

When you workout, the opportunity cost is some time you could have spent doing something else.

[jbball92]

I just got an assignment for my nutrition class that says to make one diet and one lifestyle change for three days and write an essay on it. Here are my options.

Diet
-Cut back on fat and cholesterol
-Choose low fat diary
-Add more Omega 3's to your diet
-Incorporate moer "healthy" unsaturated fats such as nuts
-No fried foods
-Cut back on hydrogenated oils
-Cut your sodium intake by eating fresh, unprocessed foods

Lifestyle
-Add more physical activity
-Don't smoke
-Limit alcohol to 1-2 servings a day
-Have your blood pressure or cholesterol checked

I already do every single one of those things for bodybuilding (excluding having my blood/cholesterol checked). So there's nothing I can change, which means there's nothing I can write about! I'm ticked. Gonna talk to the professor and see if there's anything else I could do.

gotta love all this bullsh*t that the media spews everywhere.

brb fat and cholesterol are bad

wut.

[spiderman997]

And also, aware me If I'm wrong, but the body can easily regulate sodium levels, so dietary sodium isn't that big of a concern?

Pretty sure it isn't since there is a negative feedback loop (aldosterone)

[Xuaxace]

Pretty sure it isn't since there is a negative feedback loop (aldosterone)

uff, just wikipedie it... I have some reading to do. I really need to start researching this stuff again.

[chezno3]

Why do you cut back on fat and cholesterol. Cholesterol turns into testosterone you poof.

Nah I'm not cutting it out. I just don't get too much like you would from fast food crap. I eat a lot of meat.

[spiderman997]

I just don't get too much like you would from fast food crap.

[ErikTheElectric]

Diet
-Cut back on fat and cholesterol
-Choose low fat diary

Lol. Why?

Fat is essential in ones diet.

[DDon1996]

I just got an assignment for my nutrition class that says to make one diet and one lifestyle change for three days and write an essay on it. Here are my options.

Diet
-Cut back on fat and cholesterol
-Choose low fat diary
-Add more Omega 3's to your diet
-Incorporate moer "healthy" unsaturated fats such as nuts
-No fried foods
-Cut back on hydrogenated oils
-Cut your sodium intake by eating fresh, unprocessed foods

Lifestyle
-Add more physical activity
-Don't smoke
-Limit alcohol to 1-2 servings a day
-Have your blood pressure or cholesterol checked

I already do every single one of those things for bodybuilding (excluding having my blood/cholesterol checked). So there's nothing I can change, which means there's nothing I can write about! I'm ticked. Gonna talk to the professor and see if there's anything else I could do.

The only two things on there that will benefit bodybuilding are increasing physical activity and drinking less. Yet you do them all.....

[zj95maxx]

You could lie?

[Havu93]

All you guys saying why to cut fat? etc, you have to look at this whole concept from a different point of view. What if you were a beginner, and didn't understand a crap about nutrition? Then imo it would be a better advice given when saying cut the crap food, such as burgers and other high fat foods, than saying "fat is needed you need to have it a lot". I mean, after they may get the hang of it, they'll know what to do and don't. Usually the stuff that has high fat is something like cookies etc snacks that one doesnt need, and which can be replaced with better options. Tuna with oil is perfect, and yes, it has fat in it. Just like it should.

[ErikTheElectric]

Because "cutting fat" out of yor site causes hormone/test issues. It would be better for that person that is trying to lose weight, try and limit other thing sin his or her diet before cutting an essential macro nutrient out of there diet.

[Havu93]

Because "cutting fat" out of yor site causes hormone/test issues. It would be better for that person that is trying to lose weight, try and limit other thing sin his or her diet before cutting an essential macro nutrient out of there diet.

Yes but I think the point is, that by cutting "fatty" foods out of one's diet, you cut all the unneeded crap out as well. After that go ahead and add in some nuts, flax oil and olive oil, aka. the better choices.

[breezyo]

Yes but I think the point is, that by cutting "fatty" foods out of one's diet, you cut all the unneeded crap out as well. After that go ahead and add in some nuts, flax oil and olive oil, aka. the better choices.

cutting "fatty" foods - add nuts, flax oil, olive oil

sense. you make none

[Havu93]

cutting "fatty" foods - add nuts, flax oil, olive oil

sense. you make none

Cutting burgers, cookies, white bread and stuff like that. Then adding the things I mentioned.

sense. you have none.

[Vincent17]

You could lie?

Obviously this.

[Therickz]

Yes but I think the point is, that by cutting "fatty" foods out of one's diet, you cut all the unneeded crap out as well. After that go ahead and add in some nuts, flax oil and olive oil, aka. the better choices.

remove good fat (saturated fat) and replace with a "worse" type of fat (polyunsaturated fat)

okay.jpg

[breezyo]

Cutting burgers, cookies, white bread and stuff like that. Then adding the things I mentioned.

sense. you have none.

Why exactly burgers are bad? Or cookies? Assuming you have appropriate micronutrient intake

[teeeps]

gotta love all this bullsh*t that the media spews everywhere.

brb fat and cholesterol are bad

wut.

I think the media spews it everywhere because your average person who is uneducated on nutrition will most probably be eating too much fat and getting to much cholesterol in their diet so simple messages like lower your fat intake are good for those sorts of people. Obviously if you know anything about nutrition you will know fats are essential so really all those messages aren't aimed at people who know anything about nutrition

[jbball92]

I think the media spews it everywhere because your average person who is uneducated on nutrition will most probably be eating too much fat and getting to much cholesterol in their diet so simple messages like lower your fat intake are good for those sorts of people. Obviously if you know anything about nutrition you will know fats are essential so really all those messages aren't aimed at people who know anything about nutrition

I just think its fukked up that nowadays they brainwash kids that an essential macronutrient is bad for you.

/short rant

[Therickz]

I think the media spews it everywhere because your average person who is uneducated on nutrition will most probably be eating too much fat and getting to much cholesterol in their diet so simple messages like lower your fat intake are good for those sorts of people. Obviously if you know anything about nutrition you will know fats are essential so really all those messages aren't aimed at people who know anything about nutrition

To be honest I think it's the other way around, with all the fat free and 1% fat being shoved in peoples faces almost on a daily basis, I would think that most of the uneducated people is consuming way less fat than is needed to be healthy

[baxtej44]

uh.. make it up.

[teeeps]

I just think its fukked up that nowadays they brainwash kids that an essential macronutrient is bad for you.

/short rant

Fair enough i see where you're coming from. In my opinion every person should be properly educated on nutrition, not too massive depth but still enough too see that a high intake of certain macronutrients can be bad but they are also essential. Realistically that's not going to happen so its probably a bit better they suggest lower fat intake since i know in the UK (i'm assuming its similar in America) obesity levels are too high (think its 1 in 4 in the UK are obese http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/Publichealth/Obesity/index.htm theres a link if your interested) and a contributing factor to that is eating too many fatty foods which are high in calories. So if you say all fats are bad you're going to be doing more good than bad in general since i'm guessing here but i think more people have issues with high fat intake compared to low fat intake.

/long rant but i'm bored as f**k

[jbball92]

Fair enough i see where you're coming from. In my opinion every person should be properly educated on nutrition, not too massive depth but still enough too see that a high intake of certain macronutrients can be bad but they are also essential. Realistically that's not going to happen so its probably a bit better they suggest lower fat intake since i know in the UK (i'm assuming its similar in America) obesity levels are too high (think its 1 in 4 in the UK are obese http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/Publichealth/Obesity/index.htm theres a link if your interested) and a contributing factor to that is eating too many fatty foods which are high in calories. So if you say all fats are bad you're going to be doing more good than bad in general since i'm guessing here but i think more people have issues with high fat intake compared to low fat intake.

/long rant but i'm bored as f**k

dude, if you ever come to Texas, its like going whale watching 24/7.

srs.

[baxtej44]

in after all these people think they are so much more superior to nutritionists and act like they have the perfect diet... pfft.



the whole idea behind cutting the traditionally known "fatty foods" is because they are calorie dense, low reward foods that most people (and most people are sedentary) cannot handle a lot of. if you ask someone on the street to name a food high in fat, they are most likely going to say McDonalds, taco bell, burgers, french fries, etc etc.

If you cut those foods, and replace them with the same amount of calories, except in healthy lean cuts of meat, fresh fruit, and vegetables you will not only be getting more fiber to help with GI health, but also more vitamins and minerals that help support a body's metabolism much more than the fast food type foods.


If you are marketing towards a certain kind of person (in this case overweight, average sedentary people), then you tell them something that makes sense to them. average sedentary people who are not looking to be a bodybuilder, etc do not need to eat as much saturated fats to raise test levels, etc.


Depending on who you are talking to, you change your prose. If I am teaching biology to grad students vs 8th graders my vocabulary is going to be SIGNIFICANTLY different. Same thing goes as if you are educating a bodybuilder on a diet vs educating someone with an 8-5 desk job who makes it to the gym sometimes.

[teeeps]

dude, if you ever come to Texas, its like going whale watching 24/7.

srs.

lmao, to be honest UK's not much different mate

[Therickz]

....

take a multi bro, problem solved.

[musculoid]

You can start by cutting out the parts of your diet that aren't even necessary to be healthy.