dips everyday

[SquatTilYouDrop]

I guess Lee Hayward is full of bull****, then. /sarcasm

If you're not a funny troll, gtfo.

[hamworld05]

If you're not a funny troll, gtfo.

Get off my dick and stop trolling my thread.

[hamworld05]

Did 10x2 yesterday. Completed more dip reps than I ever did in my life. You rest a lot during 10 sets, like minimum 10 minutes. Will rest 1 and a half minutes between sets instead of 2 for improved conditioning(see, because I can't increase a rep each day, I thought I'd go for half a rep each day. )

10 sets of 2 dips with 2 minutes between each set is like 20 dips in 20 minutes. I start resting half a minute less, and it's like 20 dips in 15 minutes. 2 dips every 1 and a half minutes. It's genius. It can't fail. If it does, I will start crying on the inside.

[jmvane15]

In my opinion, I would take doing dips over pull ups any day, I think they are a better exercise.

[SquatTilYouDrop]

This thread gets worse and worse.

Carry on trolls.

[chescori]

It's also well known that bodyweight exercises are easier on the body than barbell exercises. You're acting like I'm ignoring everybody here. I've already accepted the idea that it may not be possible to increase the reps every day. I am just trying a different every-day strategy.

That's the problem, I am not strong enough to just "keep benching". If I cannot do 30 dips, I will not look like I cannot do 30 dips. I won't even be given the chance to bench 145, the spotter would hug the bar for the whole set... because I don't look strong enough to bench it.

If I don't get strong at dips, I won't get stronger at bench and I won't get the chance to earn some respect and bench more in the process.

Ill assume for a moment that you are not a troll, so that i can give you my humble advice without feeling too much stupid myself:

Remove all that **** from your mind. Wathever your current physical state is, 15 dips, 16, 20 or 3, it is your current state. Calm down, use common sense and start training regularly with intensity but also with enough rest and good diet, and you will improve. train the whole body and not just chest + biceps. Stop with that benching focused mindstate, and stop caring at all if people at the gym "respects" you or not. Otherwise, all you are going to achieve is to hurt yourself.

[hamworld05]

Ill assume for a moment that you are not a troll, so that i can give you my humble advice without feeling too much stupid myself:

Remove all that **** from your mind. Wathever your current physical state is, 15 dips, 16, 20 or 3, it is your current state. Calm down, use common sense and start training regularly with intensity but also with enough rest and good diet, and you will improve. train the whole body and not just chest + biceps. Stop with that benching focused mindstate, and stop caring at all if people at the gym "respects" you or not. Otherwise, all you are going to achieve is to hurt yourself.

Nice, first call me stupid and then give me advice. Fine, I won't do dips everyday then. I'll just use the hundred pushup program and replace pushups with dips instead.

If I can't bench BW, it means I need to bench more. This is common sense.

[konigbohne]

No.

Muscle needs to rest in order to grow unless you are on some type of endurance crusade. Increase resistance gradually as you get stronger inside a specified rep scheme to build strength and/or muscle. This pretty much applies to all exercises including dips. Rest appropriately between dipping days depending on how hard you taxed your self with the previous sessions work load. The harder the workload the more time it will take to recover on average.

Very basic knowledge.

Also, what is the point of increasing dipping endurance? What does one gain? I use dips for chest and triceps development. Nothing else.

/\ My thoughts exactly.

[hamworld05]

/\ My thoughts exactly.

Dammit. Doing 10x2 doesn't work. I completed 10x2 and then tried to do it again with 30 seconds less rest every set and I couldn't even finish the second last set. My sternum was killing me like a mother, too. Don't ever think that just because you can do 10x1 you could do 10x2. You could, but then it would exhaust you and you would be underperforming the next day. I do have another idea that I could use for pullups.

For example, I'd go 10x1 and then instead of going 10x2, I would just add another set of 1 rep. It could work, but based on my experiences with dips, it's likely it's not gonna work.

[chescori]

What you really need is just to switch to Fear Based Bodybuilding (FEBB).

[k9pit]

you can try a high volume of dips but your elbows and ligaments may get tired of it after a weeks time. And if you have any tendonitis issues, I wouldn't ever try a very high volume of dips (........again, lol). EDIT: high volume meaning 50+ dips 3+ times a week.

And your form needs to be 100% spot on (for your body) or your shoulders may not like it either. I think you can get away with doing dips with okay to sub-par form if you only do them once or twice a week, but if you want to do them everyday, then you better make sure you're doing them right.

FWIW, In regards to chest dips, I can do 25-30 bw dips straight in a set and bang out 80x6 weighted dips with good form, but I don't believe the strength aspect of dips carried over into other chest lifts....maybe shoulders if anything (given enough rest and recovery). No scientific reason why, just experience.

[stealth_swimmer]

You'd be better off adding some weight if strength gain is your goal. Not sure what dip endurance would be good for

Some folks just like having good muscle endurance. It's quite practical for real life situations (same thing goes for lifts that involve continuous tension cus it kinda mimics when you have to hold something while squeezing/pulling/whatever on it for a while)

[stealth_swimmer]

you can try a high volume of dips but your elbows and ligaments may get tired of it after a weeks time. And if you have any tendonitis issues, I wouldn't ever try a very high volume of dips (........again, lol). EDIT: high volume meaning 50+ dips 3+ times a week.

And your form needs to be 100% spot on (for your body) or your shoulders may not like it either. I think you can get away with doing dips with okay to sub-par form if you only do them once or twice a week, but if you want to do them everyday, then you better make sure you're doing them right.

FWIW, In regards to chest dips, I can do 25-30 bw dips straight in a set and bang out 80x6 weighted dips with good form, but I don't believe the strength aspect of dips carried over into other chest lifts....maybe shoulders if anything (given enough rest and recovery). No scientific reason why, just experience.

^^^This. Dips are great for adding size onto my tris, but I gotta be careful (with form and volume) or my elbows start hurting after a couple months(when I first added them in, they started hurting after a few weeks but I feel like I'm starting to get the hang of them and listen to my body better and adjusting my form accordingly).

[Jippo]

Not sure what the issue is with doing bodyweight stuff everyday. Provided you're stopping short of failure. One summer i was doing 10 sets of chins and dips spread throughout the day and i increased my reps a **** ton. Like i say if you're stopping a couple reps short of failure there's really no issue. My 12 year old niece does gymnastics everyday that involves a ton of dipping/pullup style training. Also good to do with pushups.

[SquatTilYouDrop]

Top 10 nominee for worst thread of 2011.

[Jippo]

And yet you seemingly can't resist one more peek.

[ToDaChange]

Why ask for advice at all if you're going to turn it down when it's given?

If you're looking to get to a heavier bench increasing your endurance isn't how you do it. It's pretty well known that significantly increasing reps into the endurance range will have a minimal at best effect on the overall strength of the muscle. You'll get more endurance, meaning you can lift the same weight more often without tiring.

It's also well known that muscles require recovery time to regrow.

If you just want to do things your way there's no point posting here, do it and tell us how it works out.

this

[boathead]

This thread gets worse and worse.

no way. this thread delivers.

unreal. brb, gonna self hypnotize 10lbs of lean body mass.

[hamworld05]

Dammit. The 100 pushup program for dips is sucking. Will give it more 2 days. If I don't kick butt during the workout, will just try doing 3 sets to failure every other day.

[preston_jep]

Your not going to get anywhere doing dips everyday one more rep every day you will probably be doing one less due to fatigue. Just bench what you can and be happy you will make gains

[bustermac]

I do dips after lifting every day. I usually do a set of 50, sometimes two sets of 50.

I have a post-workout ritual...set of 50 Atlas pushups, set of 50 diamond pushups, set or two of 50 dips. Doesn't matter how hard I hit the weights, I push through these.

I never do these before my workouts though, don't want to hurt the other exercises or myself.




I do a set of 50 pull-ups before my workout a lot of days, just to get stretched out and warmed up.

I've done so many pull-ups, push-ups and dips over the past year that they're nothing. I do weighted pull-ups, sets of 25 some days, but if I go unweighted, I'll do sets of 50.

[hamworld05]

I do dips after lifting every day. I usually do a set of 50, sometimes two sets of 50.

I have a post-workout ritual...set of 50 Atlas pushups, set of 50 diamond pushups, set or two of 50 dips. Doesn't matter how hard I hit the weights, I push through these.

I never do these before my workouts though, don't want to hurt the other exercises or myself.




I do a set of 50 pull-ups before my workout a lot of days, just to get stretched out and warmed up.

I've done so many pull-ups, push-ups and dips over the past year that they're nothing. I do weighted pull-ups, sets of 25 some days, but if I go unweighted, I'll do sets of 50.

What is your heaviest weighted dip? Are you able to dip with 3 plates?

[briley87]

cliffs:
member since aug 2010, 180 lb, wants to do dips so he looks like he can do 145 bench w/o his spotter trying to help him

i love dips but wtf this makes no sense

thanks for the lolz

now i've gotta gtfo before this thread makes my brain explode

[hamworld05]

cliffs:
member since aug 2010, 180 lb, wants to do dips so he looks like he can do 145 bench w/o his spotter trying to help him

i love dips but wtf this makes no sense

thanks for the lolz

now i've gotta gtfo before this thread makes my brain explode

Do you think a 3-4 plate dip will make it easier to do 60 dips?

[briley87]

Do you think a 3-4 plate dip will make it easier to do 60 dips?

By plates do you mean 45#?
By 60 do you mean 60 bw dips?
If so, do you think running a 10.5 100m dash will make it easier to run a marathon?

I'm really not trying to rip on you I just have no idea wtf you're asking...

If you want to bench more work on benching more. Dips are good for you, weighted or not, but they have to be treated like any other lift. Doing dips b/c you're intimidated by benching more is going about it back-@sswards.

And even if a guy who dips 600 lbs benches 600 lbs correlation /= causation.

[hamworld05]

By plates do you mean 45#?
By 60 do you mean 60 bw dips?
If so, do you think running a 10.5 100m dash will make it easier to run a marathon?

I'm really not trying to rip on you I just have no idea wtf you're asking...

If you want to bench more work on benching more. Dips are good for you, weighted or not, but they have to be treated like any other lift. Doing dips b/c you're intimidated by benching more is going about it back-@sswards.

And even if a guy who dips 600 lbs benches 600 lbs correlation /= causation.

YES but surely, if a guy could dip heavy it means his BW feels light to him. It'd make it easier do to more dips wouldn't it?

A marathon is 420 times as long as a 100m dash. That ain't fair. Doing 60 dips should be like doing 3 plates, theoretically... That's what I'm hoping for anyway.

[briley87]

Maybe. If you can do 135# of plates + 180# bodyweight you should be able to knock out quite a few bodyweight, but that isn't always so.

There was a thread on here a few weeks ago, I can't find it now, about how 2 guys were having an informal bench competition and one guy maxed 50 pounds higher but couldn't do the same number of reps at a much lower weight. I've seen guys who have big bench numbers but aren't particularly great at pushups.

I can say that all the bodyweight in the world won't make those plates much easier to push. I can bench 135x30 easily and according to my handy dandy 1RM calculator I max at 700 lol.

Just because physics says it's the same amount of work doesn't mean it's the same amount of work...if that makes sense.

[hamworld05]

Maybe. If you can do 135# of plates + 180# bodyweight you should be able to knock out quite a few bodyweight, but that isn't always so.

There was a thread on here a few weeks ago, I can't find it now, about how 2 guys were having an informal bench competition and one guy maxed 50 pounds higher but couldn't do the same number of reps at a much lower weight. I've seen guys who have big bench numbers but aren't particularly great at pushups.

I can say that all the bodyweight in the world won't make those plates much easier to push. I can bench 135x30 easily and according to my handy dandy 1RM calculator I max at 700 lol.

Just because physics says it's the same amount of work doesn't mean it's the same amount of work...if that makes sense.

Ah, one can hope.