Being short or average height sucks because all the women want the tall guys!

[kickblake]

In all seriousness, the hottest chick I've ever dated (BRB fitness competitor) was an inch taller than me. At the beginning she **** tested me about it, but when it was obvious I didn't give a fuark, she didn't either.

Basically what I'm saying is that height gives women an easy target to either test your frame or feed their insecurities. If you're actually half the alpha you're pretending to be...it won't matter.


Now I just hope she doesn't read this since she just started trolling the misc again. Oh lawd.

[CeBKa]

hey dude if it makes you feel better iam like 5.7 and it has also played a roled with my bad luck with women especialy when you cant reach something and you have to ask the women thats taller than you and then she tells her friends and they laugh when they se you man that sucks i feel youre pain

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[Legend1617]

all women want the tall guys?lolz what?I don't see any women mirin me height hasn't helped me so far.

[jram2323]

6'2" is the 75th percentile for men's height. It's absurd for a 5'3" girl, who's the ~40th percentile for women's height to claim that anything under 6'3" is not acceptable for her.

EDIT: 6'0" is actually the 75th percentile, 6'2" is closer to the 90th!

[Kev1972]

I can confirm. I smashed table full of bishes.

[adryan999]

6'2" is the 75th percentile for men's height. It's absurd for a 5'3" girl, who's the ~40th percentile for women's height to claim that anything under 6'3" is not acceptable for her.

From rational thinking you're right, but girl logic defies anything

[tential]

all women want the tall guys?lolz what?I don't see any women mirin me height hasn't helped me so far.

You probably don't notice. I remember one kid who joined our fraternity was like 6'2" and a complete goober. Even then, girls still wanted dat D but he was a complete weirdo and couldn't figure it out. He still is, but he's learned a lot. Lots of people wanted him to gtfo but I stuck with the dude helped him out, and a lot of other people did too. He read that book "The Game", cleaned up his warddrobe, ACTIVELY made goals to talk to girls and did it and the dude gets MAD girls now.
Most of the problem with people who say they are having trouble with women, dont' put themselves in situations where they can get women.

[Legend1617]

You probably don't notice. I remember one kid who joined our fraternity was like 6'2" and a complete goober. Even then, girls still wanted dat D but he was a complete weirdo and couldn't figure it out. He still is, but he's learned a lot. Lots of people wanted him to gtfo but I stuck with the dude helped him out, and a lot of other people did too. He read that book "The Game", cleaned up his warddrobe, ACTIVELY made goals to talk to girls and did it and the dude gets MAD girls now.
Most of the problem with people who say they are having trouble with women, dont' put themselves in situations where they can get women.

I am not far from Ybor/7th street & live right outside Tampa the only two friends I really talk to anymore say I don't go out enough..lol my friends wife has even called me a whiny bish because I cannot get laid..I am pretty sure I would notice if women were checking me out or had interest in me.I moved 6 1/2 months ago & have been slacking on workouts bad & have just been eating whatever.I gained 15 pounds & 7-8% in bodyfat so far I am still pretty lean for my height but i can see the fat gains in my core area it's not like it's going to hold me back though since there wasn't any improvement to begin with with women.

a pic of me at 180-185ish last year which is super lean at my height




no weight between 180-287 has helped me with any type of chick I have always approached average girls or below it would probably help if I was 220-240 with a decent amount of muscle around 8-10% but that's going to require drugs & a lot of of effort for what a 20% chance of success rate of attracting women if that?It's really hard to keep it up after you have been let down so much by what you thought was going to change your life for the better when in reality it didn't change anything I expected it to.I do agree with you that a lot of people don't put themselves in a position to attract women though & will admit I have some social,confidence issues but it has nothing to do with initial attraction imo since a female has to find you physically attractive.

[jamesbwbevis]

OP is right. short guys are the equivalent of fat girls. im 5'3, no chick gives me chance

[novawildcat25]

i used to want to be like 6'0'' but now i don't care. i still pull and i'm not even super jacked. its about your outlook and your confidence

edit - facial aesthetics and wealth never hurt anyone, but try not to get too caught up in it

[blazinbeast]

I am 5'8 and wish I was taller of course, but not because of women, mostly for sports. Getting girls has been too easy my whole life, and I was always the small kid. I guess if you are ugly/average looking being tall definately bumps you up a couple points.

Just get in sick shape OP and be confident and passionate about something and they will come crawling .

[tential]

I am not far from Ybor/7th street & live right outside Tampa the only two friends I really talk to anymore say I don't go out enough..lol my friends wife has even called me a whiny bish because I cannot get laid..I am pretty sure I would notice if women were checking me out or had interest in me.I moved 6 1/2 months ago & have been slacking on workouts bad & have just been eating whatever.I gained 15 pounds & 7-8% in bodyfat so far I am still pretty lean for my height but i can see the fat gains in my core area it's not like it's going to hold me back though since there wasn't any improvement to begin with with women.

a pic of me at 180-185ish last year which is super lean at my height




no weight between 180-287 has helped me with any type of chick I have always approached average girls or below it would probably help if I was 220-240 with a decent amount of muscle around 8-10% but that's going to require drugs & a lot of of effort for what a 20% chance of success rate of attracting women if that?It's really hard to keep it up after you have been let down so much by what you thought was going to change your life for the better when in reality it didn't change anything I expected it to.I do agree with you that a lot of people don't put themselves in a position to attract women though & will admit I have some social,confidence issues but it has nothing to do with initial attraction imo since a female has to find you physically attractive.

This dude I'm telling you about bro. he was 140 at 6'2". I weighed more than him at the time no joke when he joined and I'm 5'6" skinny as phuck.
Wanna know the difference between him and you and the EXACT difference your boy's wife pointed out?
"lol my friends wife has even called me a whiny bish because I cannot get laid
There are a LOT of insults she could have used. Could have called you fat, not good looking, weird, but she said you're WHINY. You're sitting there making excuses saying "well if i do this I might attract girls." You can be aesthetic as phuck, and a LOT of miscers are and they STILL don't get girls. The biggest problem with the misc is the attitude.
How many aesthetic dudes do you know in real life? Aesthetic by misc standards. Not that many. yet I see a LOT of dudes with hot girls. You know what they have that most miscers including yourself don't? Confidence and charisma. I don't know a single person who would be aesthetic by misc standards, yet almost all my boys bang hot girls. Even my friend who is my height, doesn't lift, isn't aesthetic at all not even facially bangs dimes on the regular.

To sum up though work on these things:
Confidence
Charisma
Spontaneity

Those 3 things, even if you're not aesthetic at all will get you girls.

Or you can be a typical loser miscer and complain about how you need to be aesthetic, while watching hot girls with skinny *******s walk around have fun and just complain all your life and shoot yourself down before you even do anything like most people do on here.

As for myself, I almost fell into this retarded miscer mindset because I saw my boys who were tall get all this pussy. Then I stopped, realized it wasn't just the tall dudes, all my friends did, and they all had one thing in common. They just went out and HAD FUN. When I realized that, things got easier. Social skills brah, so important. You can be aesthetic facially, and body, but a dude with social skills will always steal your girl. If aesthetics were so important, miscers wouldn't have girlscheating on them right and left but well lets face it. I'd rather get anally raped than hang out with a LOT of you people on here and I'm terrified of butt stuff. It's really no wonder miscers get cheated on, most of the people on here are complete and utter ******* losers. Actually it's one of the reasons I never say "I'm a miscer". I use this forum, but I hope to god I never identify as a miscer.

[t0ugherth4nU]

This dude I'm telling you about bro. he was 140 at 6'2". I weighed more than him at the time no joke when he joined and I'm 5'6" skinny as phuck.
Wanna know the difference between him and you and the EXACT difference your boy's wife pointed out?
"lol my friends wife has even called me a whiny bish because I cannot get laid
There are a LOT of insults she could have used. Could have called you fat, not good looking, weird, but she said you're WHINY. You're sitting there making excuses saying "well if i do this I might attract girls." You can be aesthetic as phuck, and a LOT of miscers are and they STILL don't get girls. The biggest problem with the misc is the attitude.
How many aesthetic dudes do you know in real life? Aesthetic by misc standards. Not that many. yet I see a LOT of dudes with hot girls. You know what they have that most miscers including yourself don't? Confidence and charisma. I don't know a single person who would be aesthetic by misc standards, yet almost all my boys bang hot girls. Even my friend who is my height, doesn't lift, isn't aesthetic at all not even facially bangs dimes on the regular.

To sum up though work on these things:
Confidence
Charisma
Spontaneity

Those 3 things, even if you're not aesthetic at all will get you girls.

Or you can be a typical loser miscer and complain about how you need to be aesthetic, while watching hot girls with skinny *******s walk around have fun and just complain all your life and shoot yourself down before you even do anything like most people do on here.

As for myself, I almost fell into this retarded miscer mindset because I saw my boys who were tall get all this pussy. Then I stopped, realized it wasn't just the tall dudes, all my friends did, and they all had one thing in common. They just went out and HAD FUN. When I realized that, things got easier. Social skills brah, so important. You can be aesthetic facially, and body, but a dude with social skills will always steal your girl. If aesthetics were so important, miscers wouldn't have girlscheating on them right and left but well lets face it. I'd rather get anally raped than hang out with a LOT of you people on here and I'm terrified of butt stuff. It's really no wonder miscers get cheated on, most of the people on here are complete and utter ******* losers. Actually it's one of the reasons I never say "I'm a miscer". I use this forum, but I hope to god I never identify as a miscer.

^^^^ THIS


like dude im a good 5'9 on a good day ( 5'8) and my girlfriend is HOT as hell. albeit she is 5'2 still. shes the most amazing person I have ever met and dude.. I mean I have been aesthetic and non aesthetic back n forth throughout my adult life .. being the natural me is skinny as fuuuu. I tore my tricep muscle 3 months ago and got skinny as fuuuarkk .

I have slept with 14 girls and "hooked up" ( everything else ) with over 100 women.. why ? cause I had a lot of friends.. I am confident.. I don't give a flying fuuu about what other people think of me.. etc etc and im all sorts of manlet status.. but I like to have fun and know how to talk to women. etc. like dude I have a $600 car and work in a restaurant ( im going back to school btw I used to be a heroin addict which set me back several years ) ( been clean year and 8 months) and I have an amazing beautiful girlfriend and when I put myself out there was able to meet women friends etc.. I do live on my own with my brother and buy my own way and take care of myself etc and she likes my personality. it also help im not ugly but im not the most amzing looking dude either.. I have a huge nose big head big ears .etc etc etc.. but guess what... I don't beat myself up over it..


you need to be confident and like who you are and approach womenz like they are anyone else ( oh wait they are) . if you don't like yourself you think some hot bish is going to? no



t0ugherth4nudatingadvice101

[jamesbwbevis]

if you don't like yourself you think some hot bish is going to?

just because you think highly of yourself doesnt all of a sudden make u attractive.


does a whale thinking shes 10/10 make u wan her? no. same with ugly manlets

[t0ugherth4nU]

just because you think highly of yourself doesnt all of a sudden make u attractive.


does a whale thinking shes 10/10 make u wan her? no. same with ugly manlets

no but I would be willing to bet she has a boyfriend and someone who likes her.. maybe she wont be out slooting it up with every tom dick and joe out there.. but she will be able to have a relationship with someone who sees enough in her to be together.. not sitting at home sulking on the misc about why she cant get laid like you and all the other FA on here.

plsgogetlaid*******.. you know im right..


brb uglyfatpeopleneverhaverelationshipsnoteverevenonce lolol your stupid brah.. maybe that's your problem .. or your REALLLLLY ugly and awkward.... <-- most likely


but if she was ugly and didn't like herself how could anyone else regardless what they look like..

in case you were unaware.. there are people who need more than lust/looks in a relationship..

and I would be willing to bet those people are comfortable with themselves and each other..



whats your excuse again?

[tential]

^^^^ THIS


like dude im a good 5'9 on a good day ( 5'8) and my girlfriend is HOT as hell. albeit she is 5'2 still. shes the most amazing person I have ever met and dude.. I mean I have been aesthetic and non aesthetic back n forth throughout my adult life .. being the natural me is skinny as fuuuu. I tore my tricep muscle 3 months ago and got skinny as fuuuarkk .

I have slept with 14 girls and "hooked up" ( everything else ) with over 100 women.. why ? cause I had a lot of friends.. I am confident.. I don't give a flying fuuu about what other people think of me.. etc etc and im all sorts of manlet status.. but I like to have fun and know how to talk to women. etc. like dude I have a $600 car and work in a restaurant ( im going back to school btw I used to be a heroin addict which set me back several years ) ( been clean year and 8 months) and I have an amazing beautiful girlfriend and when I put myself out there was able to meet women friends etc.. I do live on my own with my brother and buy my own way and take care of myself etc and she likes my personality. it also help im not ugly but im not the most amzing looking dude either.. I have a huge nose big head big ears .etc etc etc.. but guess what... I don't beat myself up over it..


you need to be confident and like who you are and approach womenz like they are anyone else ( oh wait they are) . if you don't like yourself you think some hot bish is going to? no



t0ugherth4nudatingadvice101

I really tried to spend some time today helping the world of the misc. Trying to shed some knowledge in a lot of threads.
The general theme on here is this though:
Despondent - in low spirits from loss of hope or courage.

Describes the misc perfectly in one word.

[jamesbwbevis]

plsgogetlaid*******.. you know im right..

no, my experiences definitely suggest that you are wrong. when you look like me nothing you do matters. I have an ugly face and im 5'3. Girls give me no chance at all no matter what. I'm 23 and the years have led me to believe what I do.

for average or good lookin brahs what you say is true. but not for legit 2/10 guys like myself

[t0ugherth4nU]

I really tried to spend some time today helping the world of the misc. Trying to shed some knowledge in a lot of threads.
The general theme on here is this though:
Despondent - in low spirits from loss of hope or courage.

Describes the misc perfectly in one word.

exactly ... because I expected to be further ahead in my life had I not done drugs/ since ive gotten clean... and IM not... doesn't mean im not going to keep trying and keep at it to be successful and happy. because some things didn't work out or work out the way I planned it... I still am making steps toward bettering myself.. being a heroin addict stripped me of everything I had both physically and emotionally...

but If I let it get me down that im not where I want to be... Id be stuck .. right there.... where I was . or worse..


keep tryin brahs . youll make it..

I don't make a lot of money.. I don't have a nice car... but I do have a beautiful girlfriend who cares about me and I work to pay for my own food/house/toilet paper/clothes/shampoo/ bills EVERYTHING a responsible adult should.. im learning and getting better at it... its not going to just happen or be handed to me because I failed the first time or I didn't meet my goals or expectations .. but I am making progress and I know things will get better.


same goes for some FA trying to get a girlfriend or get laid... it doesn't just boom magically happen one day because you put on nice clothes, cut your hair or start lifting... its a progression .. and youll find someone eventually.

I lost my virginity at 15 and have been in hundreds of countless meaningless relationships.. does that make me better than the next person? no? ( check back to the part where ive been a heroin addict, homeless, work in restaurants still, have nothing. and than lost some more)

but here I am.. with a girlfriend..


no excuses *******s.. get out there you sorry sacks of ass

[t0ugherth4nU]

no, my experiences definitely suggest that you are wrong. when you look like me nothing you do matters. I have an ugly face and im 5'3. Girls give me no chance at all no matter what. I'm 23 and the years have led me to believe what I do.

for average or good lookin brahs what you say is true. but not for legit 2/10 guys like myself

well I apologize for flipping out. but surely.. surely.. there has to be an answer.. and as cliché as it sounds.. your attitude is oozing from you and girls know this as well as you because you portray it.

[jamesbwbevis]

well I apologize for flipping out. but surely.. surely.. there has to be an answer.. and as cliché as it sounds.. your attitude is oozing from you and girls know this as well as you because you portray it.

Girls were rejected me long before my attitude became this way. Cause im fukin ugly

[Legend1617]

This dude I'm telling you about bro. he was 140 at 6'2". I weighed more than him at the time no joke when he joined and I'm 5'6" skinny as phuck.
Wanna know the difference between him and you and the EXACT difference your boy's wife pointed out?
"lol my friends wife has even called me a whiny bish because I cannot get laid
There are a LOT of insults she could have used. Could have called you fat, not good looking, weird, but she said you're WHINY. You're sitting there making excuses saying "well if i do this I might attract girls." You can be aesthetic as phuck, and a LOT of miscers are and they STILL don't get girls. The biggest problem with the misc is the attitude.
How many aesthetic dudes do you know in real life? Aesthetic by misc standards. Not that many. yet I see a LOT of dudes with hot girls. You know what they have that most miscers including yourself don't? Confidence and charisma. I don't know a single person who would be aesthetic by misc standards, yet almost all my boys bang hot girls. Even my friend who is my height, doesn't lift, isn't aesthetic at all not even facially bangs dimes on the regular.

To sum up though work on these things:
Confidence
Charisma
Spontaneity

Those 3 things, even if you're not aesthetic at all will get you girls.

Or you can be a typical loser miscer and complain about how you need to be aesthetic, while watching hot girls with skinny *******s walk around have fun and just complain all your life and shoot yourself down before you even do anything like most people do on here.

As for myself, I almost fell into this retarded miscer mindset because I saw my boys who were tall get all this pussy. Then I stopped, realized it wasn't just the tall dudes, all my friends did, and they all had one thing in common. They just went out and HAD FUN. When I realized that, things got easier. Social skills brah, so important. You can be aesthetic facially, and body, but a dude with social skills will always steal your girl. If aesthetics were so important, miscers wouldn't have girlscheating on them right and left but well lets face it. I'd rather get anally raped than hang out with a LOT of you people on here and I'm terrified of butt stuff. It's really no wonder miscers get cheated on, most of the people on here are complete and utter ******* losers. Actually it's one of the reasons I never say "I'm a miscer". I use this forum, but I hope to god I never identify as a miscer.

I believe you do need personality,social skills & confidence in order to pull any type of girl no doubt but you have to look good imo.I also believe a lot of people believe looks are a top priority because it is something they have experienced the majority of there life it is something that is realized in childhood & growing up experiencing the same thing enforces the belief.Imo it is really difficult to explain because each person has different experiences that cause/enforce certain beliefs it would be a never ending argument.One person John is in shorter words trying to tell the other person Jordan everything he has experienced in his life from child hood & up with girls isn't real it is all a delusion then John try's to tell Jordan what is real based on the stuff he has experienced in his life.It is nearly impossible to wipe someones experiences & beliefs to replace them with your own.Thank you for your time I am sure you have helped a few people by that post which makes it worth it.I believe the only thing that has a chance of changing a belief is something that is repetitive even then it is still a challenge for some.

I am a little drunk or hungover from last night I should say so sorry if this doesn't make since to me it just seems like the misc is trying to tell person B that none of the sh*t he has experienced in life is real while Person A is trying to tell person B his experiences in life & for some reason Person A's experiences are real.

[jamesbwbevis]

I am a little drunk so sorry if this doesn't make since to me it just seems like the misc is trying to tell person B that none of the sh*t he has experienced in life is real while Person A is trying to tell person B his experiences in life & for some reason Person A's experiences are real.

repped, fukin this x 10000

Everyone comes to their beliefs from their experiences. To tell someone that everything they have experienced in life is wrong is silly. Different things are true for different people. The advice that you give might apply to some people and not to others. just the way it works, so nobody should claim to be "right"

[jamesbwbevis]

brb uglyfatpeopleneverhaverelationshipsnoteverevenonce lolol your stupid brah.. maybe that's your problem .. or your REALLLLLY ugly and awkward.... <-- most likely


but if she was ugly and didn't like herself how could anyone else regardless what they look like..

in case you were unaware.. there are people who need more than lust/looks in a relationship..

and I would be willing to bet those people are comfortable with themselves and each other..



whats your excuse again?

I never said ugly/fat people never have relationships. they do, but almost always with other ugly/fat people. Id rather be fa.

I dont have an excuse, I have a legitmate reason. I am too unattractive for anything but whales probably. So I dont bother. I know this from the results I've gotten since age 16

[pharscape91]

Ok, this just drives me into a useless fury complex...

Aren't you the guy that had jaw surgery or something?

You need to sort your life out, worrying about **** that doesn't matter

[DerpHunter]

tl;dr. Your insecurity is your problem - not your height. Unless you're a midget. Then, you're probably effed.

[jamesbwbevis]

tl;dr. Your insecurity is your problem - not your height. Unless you're a midget. Then, you're probably effed.

what you dont realize is that nobody starts out feeling bad about their height. nobody is born that way. But when you constantly get rejected because of it, then you start realizing it matters and you feel bad about it.

I'm 5'3 and YES it matters a lot. You're the male equvilaent of a fat girl

[LikeAMachine]

this fukkin troll again

[beastmodekitty]

I'm 5ft8 which i guess is tall for a girl. I don't really care about height. just act like a man and be confident.

[jram2323]

I'm 5ft8 which i guess is tall for a girl. I don't really care about height. just act like a man and be confident.

^^^BAM. Here's your lesson misc. And this chick is pretty cute too.

[jamesbwbevis]

^^^BAM. Here's your lesson misc. And this chick is pretty cute too.

lolz at believing what girls say. what they do is much different from what they say.