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    low carb bulk

    Anyone here ever bulk on a low-carb diet? I don't mean like, like keto or anything(minimum 5 fruits a day, 250-280g carbs)...

    I'm just asking because carbs are getting expensive and I might need the money for protein...
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    Originally Posted by hamworld05 View Post
    Anyone here ever bulk on a low-carb diet? I don't mean like, like keto or anything(minimum 5 fruits a day, 250-280g carbs)...
    Let me see if I understand you correctly: you want to consume a low carb diet that contains moderate to high levels of carbs. Wow, that's a revolutionary concept.
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    Carbs are expensive?? What??

    And what do you consider high carb?
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    How are carbs expensive? Those are the cheapest things to eat. Rice, pasta, bread, potatoes, etc... These are dirt cheap, lol.

    But back to the question... yes, I've bulked on low carbs (sub 200) and thoroughly enjoy it.

    My body doesn't much like carbs. They make me feel bloated, tired, full, etc... So I much prefer to be on a lower-moderate carb diet. When bulking I highly prefer a diet of high fat, high protein, lower carb. For instance, 130g fat, 225g protein, 180g carbs. This puts me about 300 over maintenance which is fine for a slow, lean bulk.

    Then every 4 days or so I'll up the carbs to 300+.
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    Low carbing, without that pesky chore avoiding carbs. The marketing writes itself.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    Let me see if I understand you correctly: you want to consume a low carb diet that contains moderate to high levels of carbs. Wow, that's a revolutionary concept.
    I don't know if you've played sports before, but generally when a mofo is trying to build muscle while playing ball 24/7, the assumption is that he eats twice his bodyweight in carbs.

    So generally, for guys like me, under 300 grams of carbs is low-carb.
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    Originally Posted by hamworld05 View Post
    I don't know if you've played sports before, but generally when a mofo is trying to build muscle while playing ball 24/7, the assumption is that he eats twice his bodyweight in carbs.

    So generally, for guys like me, under 300 grams of carbs is low-carb.
    Well ya...if you're a mofo playing ball 24/7, trying to build some big muscles...you better be eating twice your bodyweight in carbs! Good luck eating 360 pounds of carbs/day.
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    A low carb diet (LCD) is generally consider to be one where intake is less than 135 grams of CHO per day.
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    Originally Posted by hamworld05 View Post
    I don't know if you've played sports before, but generally when a mofo is trying to build muscle while playing ball 24/7, the assumption is that he eats twice his bodyweight in carbs.

    So generally, for guys like me, under 300 grams of carbs is low-carb.
    What are you bulking caloies at?
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    A low carb diet (LCD) is generally consider to be one where intake is less than 135 grams of CHO per day.
    No.

    Low carb is relative to total calorie intake. If you're a chick who is consuming 1,400 cals a day that is more than 1/3 of your daily caloric intake.
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    Originally Posted by hamworld05 View Post
    Anyone here ever bulk on a low-carb diet? I don't mean like, like keto or anything(minimum 5 fruits a day, 250-280g carbs)...

    I'm just asking because carbs are getting expensive and I might need the money for protein...
    Carbs are expensive? Do you live in Australia and get all your carbs exclusely from bananas or something?
    Things like oats can easily be obtained for less than 3 dollars per kilogram (with most brands providing ~120 calories per 30 grams serving), same can be said for pasta, rice etc...
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    A low carb diet (LCD) is generally consider to be one where intake is less than 135 grams of CHO per day.
    Geez. 5 bananas a day? I better be getting my chicken/steak in or I'm gonna get exhausted...
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    Originally Posted by ThatWei View Post
    Carbs are expensive? Do you live in Australia and get all your carbs exclusely from bananas or something?
    Things like oats can easily be obtained for less than 3 dollars per kilogram (with most brands providing ~120 calories per 30 grams serving), same can be said for pasta, rice etc...
    Are bananas expensive in Australia?
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    Originally Posted by DTRrex View Post
    Are bananas expensive in Australia?
    Hell yes, Yasi laying waste to three-quarters of the nation's banana crop does that .
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    Originally Posted by ThatWei View Post
    Carbs are expensive? Do you live in Australia and get all your carbs exclusely from bananas or something?
    Things like oats can easily be obtained for less than 3 dollars per kilogram (with most brands providing ~120 calories per 30 grams serving), same can be said for pasta, rice etc...
    tbh, it's more like the chicken that's getting expensive I can't enjoy bananas without running out of money to buy a lot of chicken

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    when it comes to bulking, protein needs must not be ****ed with you know...
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    bananas here are like a buck a pound
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    Originally Posted by ThatWei View Post
    Hell yes, Yasi laying waste to three-quarters of the nation's banana crop does that .
    What is Yasi?

    I'm from U.S. brah... not down with the Aussie lingo.
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    Originally Posted by hamworld05 View Post
    tbh, it's more like the chicken that's getting expensive I can't enjoy bananas without running out of money to buy a lot of chicken

    *does not want to have to resort to taking steroids*

    when it comes to bulking, protein needs must not be ****ed with you know...
    Do whatever is best for your wallet man.

    Bulking on lower carb is definitely doable, and in my case... preferred.
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    Originally Posted by DTRrex View Post
    What is Yasi?

    I'm from U.S. brah... not down with the Aussie lingo.
    It is not Aussie lingo , Yasi is what the cyclone was named.
    While the prices are coming down, relative to everything else it is still expensive as.
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    Originally Posted by DTRrex View Post
    Do whatever is best for your wallet man.

    Bulking on lower carb is definitely doable, and in my case... preferred.
    Will do, thx bro.
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    Originally Posted by DTRrex View Post
    No.

    Low carb is relative to total calorie intake. If you're a chick who is consuming 1,400 cals a day that is more than 1/3 of your daily caloric intake.
    Actually, LCD and VLCD/VCKD protocols often use absolute thresholds as they seek to trigger certain physiological changes, including but not limited to reducing baseline glucose utilization in the brain from ~130 grams/d to ~40 grams/d. The metabolic cost of brain function is not particularly variable based on the height and/or weight on an individual.
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    Originally Posted by ThatWei View Post
    It is not Aussie lingo , Yasi is what the cyclone was named.
    While the prices are coming down, relative to everything else it is still expensive as.
    Hahahaha. Gotcha.

    That wasn't really in the news over here at all. That makes sense though. Sucks though, bananas are so good; I am sad to hear so many were lost
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    Actually, LCD and VLCD/VCKD protocols often use absolute thresholds as they seek to trigger certain physiological changes, including but not limited to reducing baseline glucose utilization in the brain from ~130 grams/d to ~40 grams/d. The metabolic cost of brain function is not particularly variable based on the height and/or weight on an individual.
    What does that have to with low carb? Low carb is subjective, and typically a measurement in proportion to total calories. If you're discussing physiological changes that really more in accord with ketosis.

    For someone who often complains about people using terminology that is subjectively defined (clean, healthy, dirty, etc...) you're using it here.
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    Originally Posted by DTRrex View Post
    What does that have to with low carb? Low carb is subjective, and typically a measurement in proportion to total calories. If you're discussing physiological changes that really more in accord with ketosis.

    For someone who often complains about people using terminology that is subjectively defined (clean, healthy, dirty, etc...) you're using it here.
    Personally, I' m going with the clean + dirty bulk to gain 15 pounds...
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    What does that have to with low carb? Low carb is subjective, and typically a measurement in proportion to total calories. If you're discussing physiological changes that really more in accord with ketosis.
    Actually, for better or worse, most LCD/VLCD/VLCKD research studies use fixed CHO intake thresholds. Again, this is in part because of certain adaptations that occur at low/very low intake thresholds.

    Even the in(famous) Atkins Diet used a fixed threshold for the induction phase.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    Actually, for better or worse, most LCD/VLCD/VLCKD research studies use fixed CHO intake thresholds. Again, this is in part because of certain adaptations that occur at low/very low intake thresholds.

    Even the in(famous) Atkins Diet used a fixed threshold for the induction phase.
    All I see is "nerd blah blah blah nerd".
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    Originally Posted by hamworld05 View Post
    All I see is "red red red red red".
    Keep up your delta-bravo routine, and I'd have to imagine it's likely.

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    Originally Posted by hamworld05 View Post
    All I see is "nerd blah blah blah nerd".
    Perhaps this whole bodybuilding thing is just a bit too complex for you.
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    Originally Posted by Siafu4Life View Post
    Keep up your delta-bravo routine, and I'd have to imagine it's likely.

    On recharge.
    Doubt it, neg warrior. White people love me. I'm just slick like that.

    There's nothing "fascinating" about low-carb diets(wunderpug's definition). They are an abomination of what it means to be human.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    Perhaps this whole bodybuilding thing is just a bit too complex for you.
    Not everyone wants to be a bodybuilder. :P Enjoy your beauty pageants, I will cherish running faster than most men with legs smaller than mine.
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