I'm just starting to lift and have read in another thread that I should be able to gain size and lift more fast, because of newb gains. The thread states that if your just starting you should be able to squat and bench 3x a week without any fear of over training if your bench max is under 225. My bench is at about 140.... so am I able to bench and squat 3x a week... safely, and efficiently?
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11-06-2011, 02:03 PM #31
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11-06-2011, 02:09 PM #32
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11-06-2011, 02:11 PM #33
What are your resting values for blood pressure and heart rate?
550/385/655, 285 overhead press, 330 push jerk, 250 weighted dip, 190 weighted pull-up, 413.8 max weighted pull-up, 450 front squat, 365 RFESS, 305 x 2 log press, 400 (per arm) farmer's carry, 370 atlas stone, 31 pull-ups at 247.
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11-06-2011, 02:32 PM #34
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11-06-2011, 02:47 PM #35
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BB curls or DB curls?
Rope for Tricep, or regular bar thing?
Full RoM Or keep the muscle on constant tension?
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Steak or chicken?Last edited by WhiteKnight4U; 11-06-2011 at 02:56 PM.
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11-06-2011, 02:49 PM #36
Hack squats, love em
Very important, keeps your cardiovascular system in check and for overall health. If you have problems with bulking and cardio eat more.
Sorry my man didn't see it
Preventing injury...well honestly its just about keeping decent form, enough to where you don't hurt yourself but lenient enough to where you can still move around some heavy weight and put on some mass.
Not sure about aesthetic but I like cable rows, tbar rows, and using a lat pulldown bar on a cable row and really focusing on the squeeze throughout the upper back.
I train to failure on every set (failure as in cannot do any more reps with that weight alone). I encorporate alot of dropsets/partial reps and supersets in my workouts, so I encourage them.
That's somewhat what I do with my workouts, heavy movements first to tax the muscle then moving on to more of a bodybuilding split, so yes.
I've heard of doggcrapp but im not sure what it incorporates, sorry.
Um, well I've benched 455 for 6 reps before
Squatted 580 for 12 reps (could probably do around 620-630 maxing, not sure)
I don't deadlift, I don't really find much of a benefit from it, I'd rather isolate the muscles used in a deadlift.
Bicep curl..um I've curled 90s for reps
Skullcrushers I've used 3 45lb plates on each side.
Posing I pay my coach every year, definately helps having somebody help you out with it and picking out your music etc. Nutrition and training coach is the same person, I would recommend it b/c having somebody watch over you while youre low bf and low carbs and your mind is playing tricks on you etc. It's nice to have an unbiased opinion on how you look so they can make decisions for you.
If you can do that stuff yourself though feel free to I just feel like it's easier doing it that way.
Ah, never really have(gotta remember I'm an old man), I think theyre great for beginners who need to build a base.
Very important, especially with lagging bodyparts and posing onstage (if you need to)
Honestly when I was younger (and still now) I practice tensing and flexing certain muscles, and encorporate that into my routines. EX: when I isolate my upper chest I flex and squeeze it as much as possible.
Just structure it how you find is best, so let's say for a chest routine we start out with
Barbbell flat bench
Incline barbbell bench
Decline barbbell bench
Now we go to a superset
Dumbbell incline presses supersetted with incline flys (do with each section of the chest)
Now we go to an isolation movement, cable incline flat decline etc.
Maybe one day illl start out with incline, or focus on decline, or do all fly movements, it just depends. Be creative
You're way too young to be worried about that, you have so much more muscle to grow its unfathomable! Don't worry about symmetry right now, just focus on getting bigger overall. Eat alot and lift heavy
Around 16-17 I started lifting, my first competition was 22 I believe
That's my offseason weight lol, I'm not 4% at this weight or I'd be the GOAT
There reaslly isnt a specific exercise thats the "best" for the chest. Just stimulate the muscle by whatever means possible. If i could make a suggestion on form with flys, be sure to keep your shoulders down and chest out, alot of the reason people feel flys in the delts ( i had this problem too) is because theyre using too much front delt and keeping their shoulders too high, try conciously keeping them down and really squeeze that chest!
As far as the "line" thats just developing the pectoral muscle. Keep it growing and you'll see that line come in faster than you can believe.
Of course, you're young and your body will not tax as quickly as someone like mine, feel free to do the same exercise a few times a week, although allow a few days in between.
I like splits alot more, fullbody workouts seem a little too general for bodybuilding goals. If you can grow on a fullbody split - great! But i'd recommend a split, I like taxing a muscle to it's fullest and I feel like a full body workout won't give me enough time to tax that many muscles.
Went to the doctors last week and it's 140/80, a little high but it's no problem.
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11-06-2011, 02:51 PM #37
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11-06-2011, 02:57 PM #39
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11-06-2011, 03:02 PM #40
What your opinions on pre intra and post workout nutrition ... i.e comsuming bulk of your carbs around your workout and breakfast .
And can working out in the mornings have an effect on your lifts compared to evening workouts ?Ka0s :In my experience, doing heavy barbell squats, bench presses, deadlifts, military presses, rows, etc. builds no significant muscle mass.
What you need to really get big is a solid routine which focuses on light weights and cable movements to really force blood into those muscles and get that deep burn & powerful contraction
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11-06-2011, 03:09 PM #41
Bulking and cutting IMO, lean gains requires too much tedious crap and I'd rather just put on as much mass as possible and cut the fat gains, cutting fat is extremely easy compared to gaining muscle. (IMO)
No sir, it'll come eventually so I may as well live now and deal with it when it comes
Agnostic, I feel as if there's something out there but we haven't found it yet
Break-ups, disregard the girl, delete all contact with her and better myself as a person, so when the next time she sees me comes around she says "wow he's awesomewhy'd I break up with him"
Back in my younger years I used to do cheesy pick-up lines and talk to girls right off the street, definately the best place to get girls numbers.
Definately apple juice
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Salt and vinegar no question
Barbbell, can use more weight.
I like the regular bar but the rope can give a white hot burn right in the meat of the tri
Keeping constant tension, IMO full ROM isn't as important.
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Looking good man, keep it up
Steak for sure, ribeye
EZ curl bar, yeah my tri's are pretty strong thanks.
Thanks for subbin, i'll do my best to answer as many questions as possible.
No problem, I like to keep things real
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11-06-2011, 03:10 PM #42
Wow, thx for all this info man it's great learning alot.
K I have a few questions
1. I want my arms to be sleeve fillers, so how many times a week should I target my Biceps and Triceps?
2. Also when doing biceps and triceps around howmany sets and reps do u suggest to do get the best outcome
3.I was told that the muscle between ur tricep and bicep (forget the name of it) pushes out ur bicep by 1-2 inches is this true?
4.How long do your workouts usually last?
5.Should I do abs every day I workout?
6.My Shoulders are lacking compared to my arms and chest, what exercise do you recommend? ( I workout at home, so I have DB's, Bench for bench pressing, Barbell and a door frame I use to do my pullups.
7. Lastly What can I do for my chest? I have a decent chest as it is, but it seems like it hasnt been progressing in awhile
My chest routine is
Shoulder width push ups till failure x3
Close push ups till failure x3
Wide Push ups till failure x3
Diamond pushups till failure x3
Bench Press 175x1-2 reps for 3 sets
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11-06-2011, 03:10 PM #43
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11-06-2011, 03:13 PM #44
Well, I get a good amount of carbs before my workout and after, but for you you wouldn't need to, it's irrelevant when you get them just get them in.
I have to have carbs around that time b/c of certain substances.
I've read studies that men have higher testosterones levels in the mornings, but IMO I feel too groggy to lift in the morning so I keep it to the evenings.
Will be back later
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11-06-2011, 03:14 PM #45
If your familiar with the Blood and guts 6 week trainer by Dorian Yates, I just finished that and im about 8 weeks in now. I didn't get that much gains in weight, because my nutrition lacked. But In strength I did tremendously.
now that Im finished, I don't know what I should continue doing, because I really enjoyed training to failure.. What should I Do now?
continue doing it? change exercises? sets? Day? i've very confused on what my routine should be now.. thank you for taking the time to read this :-D
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11-06-2011, 03:14 PM #46
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Been training hard/dieting for a year....Bout to do my first NPC show october of next year and I know in order to be competitive in this, I have to come in looking great. Therefore I am considering hoping on my first bicycle come winter break. Any suggestions as you were this age when you rode your first bike?
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11-06-2011, 03:17 PM #48
Had a couple more questions if you don't mind, first off what do you think of smolov/critical bench type things?
And also for semi beginners, (training 6mo-1yr) how do you think arm training, heck size training in general should be done? Some people say compounds only, eg chinups and bench press, others say mostly compounds but add a few sets of curls and skullcrushers etc, and finally a select few say isolate it up, whats your opinion?
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11-06-2011, 03:34 PM #49
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11-06-2011, 04:02 PM #54
is it possible to reduce fat and gain muscle at the same time
will masturbation affect any gains
which supplements do you use
all i can get in a day is maybe 70-100g's of protein a day and im 6'1-6'2 160 would this affect my gains
all i have at home is 25lbs dumbells and when i do curls on my right i feel it on my bicep and when i do it on my left i feel it on my forearms how can i even this out
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11-06-2011, 04:35 PM #55
1.Target them twice a week, allow for 2-3 days rest in between. Make arm only days
2. Just push them to their limit, your body will tell you when to stop. Start out with maybe 9-12 sets on each muscle, vary your rep count.
3. THe biceps brachialis? It would make the bicep "wider" persay... to focus on it try more hammer curls.
4. Anywhere from 1 and a half to 3 hours
5. I find that abdominals have a faster recovery time than other muscle groups, give them a few days off a week but other than that go for it.
6. Try doing lateral raises, front raises, and rear delt flys with the dumbbells you have, heavy barbbell overhead presses will also help in beffing out those delts.
7. try switching up your workouts, do something different, pushups aren't going to give you a big chest. I'd recommend getting a gym membership.
Yes sir, if I can I will. Not sure if i'm going to be able to considering the stuff i've talked about on these boards.
Do exactly that. Change it up, and most importantly fix your nutrition. Be creative with it, encorporate training to failure along with the other guidelines of that routine.
Whatever compound you're going to do do a small amount at first. I'd say 200-300mg of a long estered testosterone would do the trick.
I mean they're cheap so you may as well use them, but IMO they're not that important. Proper nutrition is far more important.
Sure.
Not sure what smolov is.
Heavy movements that isolate the bi and tri, i've never been a believer that chin-ups will grow your bi's to where you want them, although you can try it out and see how it works for you. such as preacher curls, standing barbbell curls, tricep extensions, skullcrushers, close-grip bench etc.
IMO, isolate
In my experience yes, in order to attain that competition conditioning low carbs are a must.
I'd say the same amount as your weight-lifting program, your cardiovascular system will need rest as well.
Wrong, you need to put it in a blender before cooking.
Flat bench (IMO the king of putting on mass to the chest)
and Incline cable flys (really gives the upper chest that "pop" when you pose)
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I'd say 16 weeks, depending on your starting bodyfat. although 5% is pretty low that would be difficult to attain.
No, you're either in a calorie deficit (cutting) or a caloric surplus (bulking)
No, maybe your forearms if you jack it enough
Multivitamin, fish oil, protein powder, creatine monohydrate, ZMA/melatonin
Yes, greatly. You more than likely need twice that amount to grow.
Make sure you are doing the movement the same way on both arms, you may be leaning too much one way or not concentrating enough on the squeeze on one arm.
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11-06-2011, 04:51 PM #56
1.) Are you natural?
2.) I'm 14, so I'm not going to do a cut (foreverbulking lol), but I have one question. I have a pretty low bf% (~12%), but I have love handles. Now, I eat alot before I go to bed (I treat sleep like an 8 hour fast), probably totalling around 1000 calories but not much fat (8-15 grams, but usually 8 grams). Do you think that eating that much before bed could be the reason I keep the love handles no matter how hard I lift and do cardio (I go hard on both - heavy weights and cardio intervals - it's all there). My waist is about 29" right now, so they're not huge, but I was just wondering.Lean bulkin' 'til i die.
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11-06-2011, 07:43 PM #60
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Thoughts on Split and routien
Bis/Tris/Deadlifts/Barbell Rows
Legs
Chest
Back
Chest/Shoulders
Legs
Rest
10 Reps 4 Sets
Bicep Barbell Curl Superset Tricep Extension
Bicep Reverse Curls Superset Tricep Rope Press
Bicep Hammer Curls Superset Tricep Pressdown
Barbell Rows
Deadlifts 6x4
Legs:
Back Squat 10x5
Front Squat 10x5
Leg Extension 10x5
Leg Curl 10x5
Inner Thigh 10x3
Outer Thigh 10x3
Donkey Raises 12x5
Barbell Toe Raises 14x5
Chest:
Straight DB Bench Press 10x4
Incline Reverse DB Bench Press 10x4
Decline DB Bench Press 10x4
Cable Flys Superset Machine Flys 10x4
Decline Flys Superset Decline Pullovers 10x4
Smith Machine Bench 12x1
Back:
Bent Over Rows 10x5
Seated Rows 10x5
Lat Pull Down (F) 10x5
Lat Pull down (R) 10x5
Deadlift 6x6
Shoulders:
Arnold Press superset Shoulder Press 10x4
Upright Rows Superset Behind Shrugs 10x5
Front Raises Superset Lateral Raises 10x4
Cable Reverse Flys 10x5
Anything i should add/change?
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