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    Critique my PPL

    Hey guys, my PPL is feeling a little boring (been doing it for over a year with decent results). Comments/suggestions welcomed. Definitely looking to change things up a little.

    Push:
    - 3x5 Incline Bench
    - 3x5 Flat Bench
    - 3(10-12) Dumbbell shoulder raise
    - 3(10-12) Tricep Rope pushdown
    - 3 (10-12) Tricep Bench
    - 3 (10-12) Dumbbell chest flyes

    Pull:
    - 3(8-10) Lat Pulldown
    - 3(8-10) Seated Row
    - 3(10-12) Hammer Curls
    - 3(10-12) Preacher curl
    - 3(10-12) Barbell bent over row
    - 3(10-12) Incline db bicep curl

    Legs:

    - 4x6 Barbell Squats
    - 4 x 20 Standing calf raise with db's
    - 3(10-12) Quad extension machine
    - 3(10-12) Hamstring curl
    - 4 x 20 Seated Calf Raise
    - 3(10-12) Dumbbell Lunges
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    No deadlifts or barbell rows?
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    Originally Posted by DanielHutch View Post
    No deadlifts or barbell rows?
    Barbell rows on pull day. Haven't incorporated deadlifts, but what day would you recommend adding to? Legs or pull
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    Originally Posted by duff92 View Post
    Barbell rows on pull day. Haven't incorporated deadlifts, but what day would you recommend adding to? Legs or pull
    Strange rep range for it, didn't notice it.

    Deadlifts purely depend on the invidivudal. Sometimes deadlifting after squatting works for some people where as other find it too taxing and make it the main pulling exercise.
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    Originally Posted by DanielHutch View Post
    Strange rep range for it, didn't notice it.

    Deadlifts purely depend on the invidivudal. Sometimes deadlifting after squatting works for some people where as other find it too taxing and make it the main pulling exercise.
    What rep range would you suggest instead
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    I do a sort of push pull legs (it's more like chest/shoulders/tricep+back/hamstrings/rear delts/bicep/forearm+quads/calves)

    Push 1:
    Flat BB bench press 5/3/1, 2 workouts a week without deload workout, so essentially doing a mesocycle every 1.5 weeks
    Incline DB press 3x8
    Dips 3x6-8
    Machine flies 3x15
    Neutral grip CGBP (using a hex bar I think that's what its called) 3x10
    Tricep pushdowns 3x10

    Pull 1:

    Weighed pullups 3x6 + 1 BW set to failure
    Deadlifts 5x5
    Leg curls 3x12
    BB shrugs 3x10
    Rear delt fly machine 3x15
    BB curl 3x8
    DB hammer curl 3x10

    Quads/calves:
    Back squat 5x5
    Leg press 3x8
    Hack squat 3x10
    Leg extension I do something weird here, I'll explain in my other reply
    Standing calf raises 3x8
    Seated calf raises 3x12
    Sometimes I do also leg press calf raises, sometimes I don't - if I do it, 3x20

    Push 2:
    Flat BB bench press 5/3/1 again
    Seated DB press 3x8
    Machine side raises 3x15
    Upright rows 3x20
    2 handed DB overhead extension 3x20
    Underhand tricep pushdowns 3x20

    Pull 2:
    Weighed pullups 3x6 + BW set to failure
    BB pendlay rows or DB rows (depending on how my lower back is feeling) 3x5 for BB rows, 3x10 for DB rows
    Romanian deadlift 3x6
    Glute ham raise superset with lying leg curl 3x10 for GHR and 3x15 for lying leg curl
    1 hand DB preacher curl 3x10
    Ez bar reverse curl 3x15

    Quads/calves:
    same as the other day

    Been working great so far. Gaining strength and retaining all muscle (possibly even gaining some) while cutting weight
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    Originally Posted by Bruno93 View Post
    I do a sort of push pull legs (it's more like chest/shoulders/tricep+back/hamstrings/rear delts/bicep/forearm+quads/calves)

    Push 1:
    Flat BB bench press
    Incline DB press
    Dips
    Machine flies
    Neutral grip CGBP (using a hex bar I think that's what its called)
    Tricep pushdowns

    Pull 1:

    Weighed pullups
    Deadlifts
    Leg curls
    BB shrugs
    Rear delt fly machine
    BB curl
    DB hammer curl

    Quads/calves:
    Back squat
    Leg press
    Hack squat
    Leg extension
    Standing calf raises
    Seated calf raises
    Sometimes I do also leg press calf raises, sometimes I don't

    Push 2:
    Flat BB bench press
    Seated DB press
    Machine side raises
    Upright rows
    2 handed DB overhead extension
    Underhand tricep pushdowns

    Pull 2:
    Weighed pullups
    BB pendlay rows or DB rows (depending on how my lower back is feeling)
    Romanian deadlift
    Glute ham raise superset with lying leg curl
    1 hand DB preacher curl
    Ez bar reverse curl

    Quads/calves:
    same as the other day

    Been working great so far. Gaining strength and retaining all muscle (possibly even gaining some) while cutting weight
    Thanks for the program, what are your rep ranges like?
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    Originally Posted by duff92 View Post
    Thanks for the program, what are your rep ranges like?
    Edited with rep ranges.

    Leg extensions: I start off with a relatively light weight, say 20 kg. I do 3 sets, one for 10 reps, other for 15 and last for 20. Next workout, same weight, but for 15,20,25. And so on until I'm hitting 50 reps on last set (these can be done in a rest paused style btw, don't have to be straight reps. what I do is rest at max 10 seconds between reps, so by the end, I'm doing like 2 ou 3, rest for 10 sec, do more 2 and 3 until I reach my target)
    Once I'm at 50 reps, I up the weight by like 10 kg/22 lbs and start over again, with 10,15,20 reps.
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    Originally Posted by Bruno93 View Post
    Edited with rep ranges.

    Leg extensions: I start off with a relatively light weight, say 20 kg. I do 3 sets, one for 10 reps, other for 15 and last for 20. Next workout, same weight, but for 15,20,25. And so on until I'm hitting 50 reps on last set (these can be done in a rest paused style btw, don't have to be straight reps. what I do is rest at max 10 seconds between reps, so by the end, I'm doing like 2 ou 3, rest for 10 sec, do more 2 and 3 until I reach my target)
    Once I'm at 50 reps, I up the weight by like 10 kg/22 lbs and start over again, with 10,15,20 reps.

    Thanks man, I will definitely be giving your variation a try. Much appreciated. +rep
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    Originally Posted by duff92 View Post
    Thanks man, I will definitely be giving your variation a try. Much appreciated. +rep
    Keep in mind that the rep ranges I gave you, is the upper limit i.e when you hit that ammount of reps per set, you increase the weight
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    Originally Posted by duff92 View Post
    Hey guys, my PPL is feeling a little boring (been doing it for over a year with decent results). Comments/suggestions welcomed. Definitely looking to change things up a little.

    Push:
    - 3x5 Incline Bench
    - 3x5 Flat Bench
    - 3(10-12) Dumbbell shoulder raise
    - 3(10-12) Tricep Rope pushdown
    - 3 (10-12) Tricep Bench
    - 3 (10-12) Dumbbell chest flyes.

    Pull:
    - 3(8-10) Lat Pulldown
    - 3(8-10) Seated Row
    - 3(10-12) Hammer Curls
    - 3(10-12) Preacher curl
    - 3(10-12) Barbell bent over row
    - 3(10-12) Incline db bicep curl

    Legs:

    - 4x6 Barbell Squats
    - 4 x 20 Standing calf raise with db's
    - 3(10-12) Quad extension machine
    - 3(10-12) Hamstring curl
    - 4 x 20 Seated Calf Raise
    - 3(10-12) Dumbbell Lunges
    Here's what I'd do

    Pull days:
    3x5 DL
    3x6-8 t-bar row
    3x8 reverse flyes
    3x8-10 lat pulldown
    4x6 barbell curls

    3x6-8 rack pulls
    3x6-8 bent over bb row
    3x8-10 face pulls
    3x8-10 v bar pulldown
    3x8-10 dumbbell curls

    Push day

    3x5 flat bb press
    3x6-8 incline dumbbell press
    3x6-8 incline fly dumbbell fly (optional)
    3x6-8 military press
    3x8 side laterals
    4x6 skullcrushers
    shrug 3x8-12


    3x6-8 incline bb press
    3x8-10 flat dumbbell press
    3x8-10 cable fly (optional)
    3x8-10 dumbbell press
    3x8-10 side laterals
    3x8-10 pushdowns
    3x8-12 shrug

    Legs

    Squats 3x5
    RDL 3x6-8
    Leg press 3x6-8
    Calf raise 3x10-12
    Optional glute iso
    3x10-12 weighted knee raise

    Front squats 4x6-8
    RDL 3x8-10
    Glute ham raise: 3x8-10
    Calf raise 3x8-12
    Optional glue iso
    3x10-12 cable crunch

    Not perfect but no program is
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    Originally Posted by duff92 View Post
    Barbell rows on pull day. Haven't incorporated deadlifts, but what day would you recommend adding to? Legs or pull
    For deadlifts I will do them every second cycle on a pull day, 3x3 with about 85% of 1rm, followed by some volume work with strict for of a 3x8 with about 65%. Destroying lol.
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    Originally Posted by Sharpy225 View Post
    For deadlifts I will do them every second cycle on a pull day, 3x3 with about 85% of 1rm, followed by some volume work with strict for of a 3x8 with about 65%. Destroying lol.
    Thanks bud, just got back on them today and it feels amazing.
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