I'm not talkin if Phil was back then etc, I mean like, if current Phil was transported back via arnie style time travel, would he have beaten Coleman? Obviously Coleman dwarfs Phil in every aspect besides maybe arms, but honestly, don't you think Phil is a better blend of mass and symmetry. I definitely do, but then again I don't really know ****, but still, I gotta say, i think the sport is in a good place right now with Phil as the champ.
Still rooting for Kai to nail his posing and conditioning and win tho, that guy truly is inspirational and pressents a kinda tighter, neater but obviously smaller version of what Ronnie was bringing imo.
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11-04-2011, 07:19 AM #1
would current Phil beat late 90's Coleman.
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It's really not even close.
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Nasser's conditioning was poor, even in 97, and very weak from the back. Other than Ronnie in 98 and 99, I think Phil would have beaten anyone from the 90s.
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11-04-2011, 08:33 AM #20
Conditioning alone wouldn't save Heath. The top 3-4 of the late 90's was much bigger and it's not like they're conditioning was terrible either.
Yes you have some spotty soft hammies or glutes in some guys but overall they were more crisp and definitely more dense than a current Heath.John "The pro architect" Hollywood
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Next time try to read my entire post. You know the meaning of "overall"?
Judging is not based on judging bodypart by bodypart, they judge a body as an whole. Flex hanged with a 99 Coleman (even if you don't agree, the scorecards told a different story). Heath most likely would not.
Heath just not stands out as a clear winner nowadays in an arguably weaker line-up, i doubt he would in 98-99 or 2000.John "The pro architect" Hollywood
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So now you have to stand next to someone to judge Density? Standing next to someone is only useful for judging the difference in size you can judge density without standing next to someone....and now that I proved what you said as wrong you want to move onto other guys like Nassar....lol.....HAHAHAHA
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