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    This how everyone describes the sport they [coach]
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    Originally Posted by joelash302 View Post
    I pretty much hate playing most team sports. Too much reliance on other people. Up to 3 person sand volleyball (no ven) I can tolerate but otherwise too much crap happening.
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    Originally Posted by snrygo View Post
    Thanks a lot. This way with my arms bent over barbell rows = Pendlay rows anyway ... 8[

    Another question:
    Madcow's calls for some beach work (biceps, triceps) on Friday in the end of the workout. How intense should that be? I have always gone balls to the walls, to failure, like a good trooper. Should I stop doing that? It crossed my mind that going to failure on Friday may impair regeneration for upper body movements the following Monday...
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    Originally Posted by joelash302 View Post
    I pretty much hate playing most team sports. Too much reliance on other people. Up to 3 person sand volleyball (no ven) I can tolerate but otherwise too much crap happening.
    Part of the greatness of team sports is having to rely on others; growing/bonding as a team and becoming a working and effective unit. I played tons of team sports, soccer/basketball/football, until I had to settle on one because they demanded year round commitments, but tbh, having a team pull together and do things that people doubted you could do is pretty awesome. Do people mess up? Sure, but so do you and you have your teammates to reach down and pull you up when you fall.
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    Originally Posted by hankst View Post
    Thanks a lot. This way with my arms bent over barbell rows = Pendlay rows anyway ... 8[

    Another question:
    Madcow's calls for some beach work (biceps, triceps) on Friday in the end of the workout. How intense should that be? I have always gone balls to the walls, to failure, like a good trooper. Should I stop doing that? It crossed my mind that going to failure on Friday may impair regeneration for upper body movements the following Monday...
    Well, how balls to the wall can you really go with curls? lol
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    Originally Posted by illiniStrive View Post
    Well, how balls to the wall can you really go with curls? lol
    To failure, drop sets, negatives, shiz like that. Because it's "only beach work and it's Friday anyway, brah".

    Well, if you fatigue your biceps enough it may fuk with your ability to row perfectly in the next workout. Probably. Dunno. That's why I'm asking.

    Edit:
    May seem like a laughable question, I get that. But so far I have always followed the "just lift heavy **** until you can't, eat, sleep, repeat".
    Did not work out too well thus far, so I'm now making sure that I get everything right.
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    It's 3 sets of each exercise (5-8 reps for dips. 8 reps for curls. 8 reps for tri extensions). No drop sets, negatives, whatever.

    It's pretty simple.
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    I tend to get overly excited at the gym.
    Let's lift eeeeeeeeeeeerrthing and leave the place shaking, else it wasn't a workout, yo!

    Maybe I should do a bit less of that.

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    lol, I sound like a 132 lbs tank top, imaginary lat syndrome badass. That was not intended. It's just how I lift. If the workout does not drain the life out of me, I am not satisfied. That also goes with cardio. Planned "40 minutes @ 130 bpm LISS" always end up being "40 minutes @ 180 bpm" because I'm feeling like I am not doing any work.

    Originally Posted by illiniStrive View Post
    Just do the program. That usually solves everything
    I think some extremely good looking bloke already mentioned this on one of the last pages, even got some mad reps for it from some random heavenly blessed beauty. Could be wrong, though.
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    Originally Posted by hankst View Post
    I tend to get overly excited at the gym.
    Let's lift eeeeeeeeeeeerrthing and leave the place shaking, else it wasn't a workout, yo!

    Maybe I should do a bit less of that.
    Just do the program. That usually solves everything
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    Originally Posted by hankst View Post
    To failure, drop sets, negatives, shiz like that. Because it's "only beach work and it's Friday anyway, brah".

    Well, if you fatigue your biceps enough it may fuk with your ability to row perfectly in the next workout. Probably. Dunno. That's why I'm asking.

    Edit:
    May seem like a laughable question, I get that. But so far I have always followed the "just lift heavy **** until you can't, eat, sleep, repeat".
    Did not work out too well thus far, so I'm now making sure that I get everything right.
    trolol

    On Sunday I felt like killing my biceps (idk why I was bored). I did heavvyyy hammer curls and then immediately to high rep concentration curls and repeated 4 times. Add in some BB curls for the hell of it. I'm still sore.
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    Originally Posted by joelash302 View Post
    I pretty much hate playing most team sports. Too much reliance on other people. Up to 3 person sand volleyball (no ven) I can tolerate but otherwise too much crap happening.
    I hate playing TS for anything other than noncompetitive fun. I hate having others rely on me (and me ultimately failing them in TS)
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    Originally Posted by hankst View Post
    I tend to get overly excited at the gym.
    Let's lift eeeeeeeeeeeerrthing and leave the place shaking, else it wasn't a workout, yo!

    Maybe I should do a bit less of that.

    Edit:
    lol, I sound like a 132 lbs tank top, imaginary lat syndrome badass. That was not intended. It's just how I lift. If the workout does not drain the life out of me, I am not satisfied. That also goes with cardio. Planned "40 minutes @ 130 bpm LISS" always end up being "40 minutes @ 180 bpm" because I'm feeling like I am not doing any work.



    I think some extremely good looking bloke already mentioned this on one of the last pages, even got some mad reps for it from some random heavenly blessed beauty. Could be wrong, though.
    When I put my bicep focus entirely on drop sets, supersets, sets to failure etc instead of a few quality sets and a focus on back work and compounds my biceps do not grow at all even when on cell tech in my experience.
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    Originally Posted by ErickStevens View Post
    Smolov for Tricep Kickbacks.
    This.





    Or madcows. I've also heard good things about 5/3/1 full body.
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    Originally Posted by ErickStevens View Post
    Smolov for Tricep Kickbacks.
    He'd have to be a genetic freak to get away with that.
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    Originally Posted by hankst View Post
    I have been Pendlay rowing pretty much every time when a program called for barbell rows, now I want to switch things up.
    What about the back angle @ BBRs? 100% parallel to the floor? Slight angle? 45° angle?

    (supinated grip)
    Jason answered this well a few pages back IIRC. The best thing I ever did was losing up form slightly. Allow for a little momentum from the lower back and trying to pull the bar through my chest (I aim for just under my sternum).

    bout 45 degrees, maybe a little lower on start. wrists perpendicular to the floor and an explosive pull
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    Alright, So I saw the orthopedic today and after X-rays he doesn't think I have a disk herniation. Possibly ligament damage, but he still says it should heal on its own in 2-3 months. Im still not allowed to squat or dead lift during this recovery phase (and being the impatient a-hole I am, I did squats with only 135 yesterday, and even that really re-aggrivated my back so this time I'm waiting till I'm 100%)...What kind of routine should I go about? Im currently bulking and would like to continue building mass as I'm still a skinny *******.I am completely lost for what kind of program to do without deads or squats. Any advice? will rep 4 life if someone comes up with a good solution. sadly, I'm even debating taking some time off lifting.

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    Alright, So I saw the orthopedic today and after X-rays he doesn't think I have a disk herniation. Possibly ligament damage, but he still says it should heal on its own in 2-3 months. Im still not allowed to squat or dead lift during this recovery phase (and being the impatient a-hole I am, I did squats with only 135 yesterday, and even that really re-aggrivated my back so this time I'm waiting till I'm 100%)...What kind of routine should I go about? Im currently bulking and would like to continue building mass as I'm still a skinny *******.I am completely lost for what kind of program to do without deads or squats. Any advice? will rep 4 life if someone comes up with a good solution. sadly, I'm even debating taking some time off lifting.

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    Guys I have a question about symmetry. My left arm/delt/shoulder is noticeable smaller than the right side. For example my right arm is about .5+ in. It noticeable enough that one tshirt sleeve is tighter than the other.

    Also I did bench with a friend the last couple of times and he said I can't keep the bar straight like my left arm sags down. Although I don't notice it while I'm doing the exercise.

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    Originally Posted by Ion26 View Post
    Guys I have a question about symmetry. My left arm/delt/shoulder is noticeable smaller than the right side. For example my right arm is about .5+ in. It noticeable enough that one tshirt sleeve is tighter than the other.

    Also I did bench with a friend the last couple of times and he said I can't keep the bar straight like my left arm sags down. Although I don't notice it while I'm doing the exercise.

    Wat do?
    I think most people have this. Dominant side is always gonna be bigger just from performing mundane tasks. Id go to dumbbells for all presses if its that severe.

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    Mitch, I'd probably focus a lot on pull ups/leg press unless that of course aggravates your back.

    I imagine any kind of horizontal row would be painful as well.
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    Originally Posted by phal View Post
    Mitch, I'd probably focus a lot on pull ups/leg press unless that of course aggravates your back.

    I imagine any kind of horizontal row would be painful as well.
    Im fine with pull ups, actually they're my favorite lift. Ive been alternating between weighted for sets of 6-10, and bodyweight to see how quickly i can get to 100.... Leg press can be iffy, some days I'm fine with them, others I wouldn't dare. For legs I've been sticking with lunges, ham curls, and leg extensions, along with calfs. I can get away with horizontal rows but only if i go light and focus more on the contraction rather than the amount of weight being moved. Im just lost at how to construct a routine without some of the most praised movements. I guess I'm thinking going back to a bro-ish split.
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    Just do what you can, bro split or not. 2-3 months isn't a long time in the greater scheme of things.
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    I'd probably do upper/lower or push/pull/legs (2x a week obv) without deads/squats. Shouldn't be too difficult to construct. 2 - 3 months is nothing in the long run. I would lay off ANY and ALL exercises that even remotely aggravate your back.

    Could also use this as an opportunity to bring up lagging/weak parts since you can give them more attention/focus.
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    Originally Posted by Ion26 View Post
    Guys I have a question about symmetry. My left arm/delt/shoulder is noticeable smaller than the right side. For example my right arm is about .5+ in. It noticeable enough that one tshirt sleeve is tighter than the other.

    Also I did bench with a friend the last couple of times and he said I can't keep the bar straight like my left arm sags down. Although I don't notice it while I'm doing the exercise.

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    Originally Posted by MITCHAPAL00ZA View Post

    Cmon man I'm serious. Im usually a very helpful poster and just want some honest insight
    That was serious, take every compound you were doing and replace it with a machine alternative. You can still keep the same split you were doing though
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