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    Originally Posted by snrygo View Post
    1. Completely different movement - hinging at the hips as opposed to the hips
    2. Not everyone has the luxury of a GHR
    1. Unaware. I thought they were the exact same thing.
    2. Really can't know either way without a response from the person to whom I was replying to.

    GMs are a worthy exercise, but for someone who already has history of fcking up their back, who will have already done heavy squats on the same day... GHRs sound like a smarter move imo.
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    Originally Posted by spicyprice View Post
    Big +1 to this!
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    Dear diary,

    I have realized my conditioning tends more towards vascularity/graininess than a lot of separation. Which makes me somewhat of a sad panda, I think super deep muscle cuts look awesome, but I guess you just gotta live with the cards you are dealt. I was mirin' my chest today while lifting and it looked like it the skin was paper thin, add in lat veins, and a vein running through one of my shins(lolidunno) and I can't be too mad. It does push me to towards the conclusion(which I kind of already accepted) that I am structurally/genetically better built for competing in BB'ing rather than physique(if I ever decide to compete). I guess I can't be a no-legged phaggy man in board shorts.

    Also my workouts have started reaching the point of getting disgustingly hard. I started a little lower in my 5RM estimations, but have been increasing weight aggressively(and ended up adding over 10 more sets per workout). After my workout today, I barely made it home before I passed out and took a one hour nap. It is now almost 3 hours after and I still feel like someone sapped every bit of energy out of me. Probably gonna push another 2 weeks before I deload(unless I get to the point where I feel completely done), but my angus is not peppered.

    Hit 405x5 on rows(which was a short term goal) and incline pressed 125 DBs. Good day minus a squat which is increasing well, but sadly still far behind.

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    Originally Posted by snrygo View Post
    2. Not everyone has the luxury of a GHR
    GHR can be done without a GHR machine. Numerous varieties, but one of the easiest is to kneel and have someone hold your ankles/tuck ankles under a machine.
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    Originally Posted by kdog1189 View Post
    GHR can be done without a GHR machine. Numerous varieties, but one of the easiest is to kneel and have someone hold your ankles/tuck ankles under a machine.
    destroys my knees
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    Squatted 375 x 9 for four sets today (Smolov FML) and then followed that up with some pressing PRs: 225 x 10 followed by 245 for three sets of paused triples, then finished up by DB Benching 110 x 5 and 100 x 6. Obamanotbad.jpg

    Originally Posted by snrygo View Post
    destroys my knees
    Because it's not a GHR.

    I've still got 3 workouts left for Smolov and they're pretty daunting:

    395 x 7 (5x)
    415 x 5 (7x) <- fffuuuuuu
    445 x 3 (10x) <- inb4 death

    I will probably celebrate that last workout with an epic meal.
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    Originally Posted by ErickStevens View Post
    Squatted 375 x 9 for four sets today (Smolov FML) and then followed that up with some pressing PRs: 225 x 10 followed by 245 for three sets of paused triples, then finished up by DB Benching 110 x 5 and 100 x 6. Obamanotbad.jpg



    Because it's not a GHR.

    I've still got 3 workouts left for Smolov and they're pretty daunting:

    395 x 7 (5x)
    415 x 5 (7x) <- fffuuuuuu
    445 x 3 (10x) <- inb4 death

    I will probably celebrate that last workout with an epic meal.
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    A natural GHR without a GHR is not a real GHR. A GHR is designed so you can do the movement without grinding your patella into a fine dust.



    You can't do that on the floor.
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    ^ yep and I've said as much at least twice before ITT

    nobody listens...
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    Originally Posted by illiniStrive View Post
    ^ yep and I've said as much at least twice before ITT

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    Originally Posted by HunterCML View Post
    You're a girl. Lol.
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    Could underdeveloped biceps be a cause of my arms not fully straightening? I noticed a while back that they are embarrassingly thin...and my arms look so fukked from a side angle.
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    To all who helped me with my DL form:


    Holy hell you were right!!! (not that Im surprised) Far easier with the hips higher. I was able to hit all three working sets at 5x205, which is up by 10lbs from last time (prior DL session from vids I posted.)


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    What develops tris really well other than CGBP and cable tri push downs/pull downs? GJ Spice.
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    What develops tris really well other than CGBP and cable tri push downs/pull downs? GJ Spice.
    Dips and all kinds of presses.


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    What develops tris really well other than CGBP and cable tri push downs/pull downs? GJ Spice.
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    What develops tris really well other than CGBP and cable tri push downs/pull downs? GJ Spice.
    If CGBP and weighted dips are not doing the job for you, and tris are a weak point... try some decline skull crushers.
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    my rotator cuffs are so fukd. brb hurt on bench brb hurt on dips brb forever no tris
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    Originally Posted by JasonDB View Post
    If CGBP and weighted dips are not doing the job for you, and tris are a weak point... try some decline skull crushers.
    You prefer weighted dips over skull crushers?
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    Not a weak point. I thought they were until I started eating like a man again. I just want some size. Ever since I hurt my wrist flexor, I stopped working on tris. So now that it's better, I would like to add or rather re-arm my tris. Biceps have grown about a quarter inch or more in the last 2 months.
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    Originally Posted by NegatronPrime View Post
    my rotator cuffs are so fukd. brb hurt on bench brb hurt on dips brb forever no tris
    acquire skullcrushers lol?
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    I can't wait to get my cut over and done with so I can bulk and get grown up triceps

    I love weighted dips. They are one of those exercises that goes in the 'manliest' category
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    Originally Posted by SOJA View Post
    Not a weak point. I thought they were until I started eating like a man again. I just want some size. Ever since I hurt my wrist flexor, I stopped working on tris. So now that it's better, I would like to add or rather re-arm my tris. Biceps have grown about a quarter inch or more in the last 2 months.
    I've seen my tris grow well while doing heavy CGB 1x/week, supplement pressing 2x/week and direct triceps work every other week.
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    Screw dips. I've never liked them. Lou, SC's are aight, but my wrist still acts up with an EZ bar. DB skullcrushers?
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    Originally Posted by SOJA View Post
    Screw dips. I've never liked them. Lou, SC's are aight, but my wrist still acts up with an EZ bar. DB skullcrushers?
    lol jesus bunch of injuries ITT

    I actually use the straight bar for my skulls
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    Originally Posted by greekmanman View Post
    lol jesus bunch of injuries ITT

    I actually use the straight bar for my skulls
    The mini 25 lb bar or a 45 lb oly bar?
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    Originally Posted by greekmanman View Post
    You prefer weighted dips over skull crushers?
    To some extent yes. Granted arms tend to need some isos, but generally speaking unless correcting a muscle imbalance, I would rather go to a compound than an iso for the vast majority of hypertrophy work. This isn't to say that isolation movements do not stimulate growth but unless it is creating an imbalance I would rather multitask than sit around isolating a muscle in the gym that isn't undersized compared to the whole body, when I could be stimulating more overall development. Now if your triceps started to lag and your pecs and delts are outpacing them, then clearly doing a lot of isolation volume (as a bodybuilder of course) for triceps would be warrented.

    For bodybuilding purposes: your heavy compounds, as long as you aren't a retard and doing tons of flyes and laterals thus shortchanging your triceps on chest and shoulder presses, and maybe some cgbp should handle your tricep development... if you are going to toss in an isolation movement (again for bodybuilding not powerlifting) pick something that at least puts a little focus on the long head as this is the most likely head to be lagging from doing tons of heavy pressing... so some type of stretch position movement (behind the head extention variations) or the decline skullcrusher address this.

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    Screw dips. I've never liked them. Lou, SC's are aight, but my wrist still acts up with an EZ bar. DB skullcrushers?
    I've said repeatedly skulls should be done with an Oly bar never an ez curl bar for the sake of your wrists, elbows and rotator cuffs.
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    Originally Posted by JasonDB View Post
    To some extent yes. Granted arms tend to need some isos, but generally speaking unless correcting a muscle imbalance, I would rather go to a compound than an iso for the vast majority of hypertrophy work. This isn't to say that isolation movements do not stimulate growth but unless it is creating an imbalance I would rather multitask than sit around isolating a muscle in the gym that isn't undersized compared to the whole body, when I could be stimulating more overall development. Now if your triceps started to lag and your pecs and delts are outpacing them, then clearly doing a lot of isolation volume (as a bodybuilder of course) for triceps would be warrented.

    For bodybuilding purposes: your heavy compounds, as long as you aren't a retard and doing tons of flyes and laterals thus shortchanging your triceps on chest and shoulder presses, and maybe some cgbp should handle your tricep development... if you are going to toss in an isolation movement (again for bodybuilding not powerlifting) pick something that at least puts a little focus on the long head as this is the most likely head to be lagging from doing tons of heavy pressing... so some type of stretch position movement (behind the head extention variations) or the decline skullcrusher address this.



    I've said repeatedly skulls should be done with an Oly bar never an ez curl bar for the sake of your wrists, elbows and rotator cuffs.
    Gotchya. I just don't have a dip belt and have always stayed away from heavy dips due to possible injury lol

    Soja, I have been using set weight bars that vary by increments of 5 lbs. 95 100 105 110 etc.

    I'll have to start using the mini straight bars(25 lbs iirc) and add my own weights on there lol
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