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    Is Owens wife a bitter bish?

    Granted Martha hart was put through alot of ****, but her grudge against wwe is almost like cuttting of the nose despite the face. Owen deserves HOF , action figures and specifically a career spanning dvd. THAT is what he deserves., but his estate is holding him up putting him in the same class as benoit - blacklisted. AM i wrong in saying Martha needs to stfu and let some of this go?
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    Originally Posted by kneeonbelly View Post
    Granted Martha hart was put through alot of ****, but her grudge against wwe is almost like cuttting of the nose despite the face. Owen deserves HOF , action figures and specifically a career spanning dvd. THAT is what he deserves., but his estate is holding him up putting him in the same class as benoit - blacklisted. AM i wrong in saying Martha needs to stfu and let some of this go?
    Yeah, your wrong. How can she work with a company that is responsible for her husband's death? If he died in the ring via botched move, that would be different. They had him repel down from the rafters. It's like asking a surgeon to fix your tooth. It's not what they do. So, if she wants to hold a grudge, then she is perfectly within her right. WWE is the reason that Owen doesn't have the figures and etc. They killed him, not her.
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    at some point, doesnt it go against the very cause that she's for? my kids asked me , with a straight face, who the rock was and if he wrestled ever.

    now owen ? he's going to be forgotten - new fans come and go, and all that work he put in will just disappear like he didnt exist. i feel like some how he got f*cked twice. he did what was presented to him and lost his life..then his estate prevents him from even being inducted into the hall of fame ?
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    i think his wife is less concerned with the fans and more concerned that her husband + the father of her kids got killed doing a stupid stunt for vince mcmahon. if it was all flipped around and my (hypothetical) wife who is also the mother of my kids died on the job doing some dumb **** like that at a young age i'd never want anything to do with it ever again
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    I'm with most here. She has every right to do what she's doing. Owen's death was extremely preventable and should have never happened.
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    if bret is able to move past it and work with the company, i don't see why martha can't be angry with them, but allow them to preserve owen's legacy at the same time. it's not like she has to sit down with them every day and hang out.
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    Originally Posted by kneeonbelly View Post
    Owen deserves HOF , action figures and specifically a career spanning dvd.
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    if bret is able to move past it and work with the company, i don't see why martha can't be angry with them, but allow them to preserve owen's legacy at the same time. it's not like she has to sit down with them every day and hang out.
    Why would Martha want WWE to continue to make money off of her husband?

    Why and How do any of these things "preserve Owen's legacy?"

    Why does Martha even need WWE to "preserve Owen's legacy?" His legacy is already pretty secure.
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    I think it's a shame that because of all this, Owen's legacy will pretty much be forgotten about over time. No action figures, no DVD's, no Hall of Fame. That's a huge tragedy.

    But, I can see where Martha is coming from. Her husband was killed out of basic stupidity and negligence by a multi-million dollar corporation. Not only that, but they went to trial and did everything they could to shift the blame off themselves and even onto Owen himself.

    On top of that, they've never respected her wishes on anything - from showing up at the funeral when she asked them not to (in a giant WWE bus with a banner on the side) to still using footage of him, etc.

    I sometimes get the feeling that wrestling fans put wrestling above real life, which is pretty disturbing. Comparing Benoit's murders to a wrestler having a drug problem, or Martha should just overlook the tragic death of her husband so he can have an action figure, etc. Priorities, people.
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    Originally Posted by ZidaneValor View Post
    Why would Martha want WWE to continue to make money off of her husband?

    Why and How do any of these things "preserve Owen's legacy?"

    Why does Martha even need WWE to "preserve Owen's legacy?" His legacy is already pretty secure.
    I would be willing to bet a pretty penny that Martha could dictate everything to have it her way. If she wanted 95% of the profit per action figure, I bet they'd do it out of respect for her and her family's loss.

    how do action figures and DVDs and a HOF entry perserve his legacy? By introducing him to new fans just like Hulk Hogan's last run. Half of the fans weren't around in the 80s. They didn't know Hogan from a hole in the wall, but the WWE introduced him to a new generation of fans. There was a whole new bunch of little Hulkamaniacs running around.

    i'm not saying the same will happen with Owen. It won't. but kids are curious about history, especially when they love something. You induct Owen, release a DVD, sell action figures and suddenly a whole new generation of Owen Hart fans are born. Work Bret Hart into a small and respectful storyline around it and you've got even more interest in him.

    give martha more than her fair share of the profits out of respect.
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    Agreed with pretty much everything that Animal has said in this thread. She is putting a stop to future generations even knowing who Owen Hart is. Owen worked hard to be a talented performer and he should be remembered for that. A lot of older wrestler's books (Rocky, Angle, Foley, etc.) have included stories of Owen in their books. Think about the next crop of books that will be released potentially, in Orton, Cena, Punk, etc. Doubtful these will have Owen included in them because it's a different time, and they weren't working when Owen was here. Just think about in another 10 - 20 years. Owen won't be remembered by hardly anybody that isn't involved in the business, and that's a shame.
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    He does deserve to be remembered. I think she is in between a rock and a hard place.
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    Originally Posted by ZidaneValor View Post
    Why would Martha want WWE to continue to make money off of her husband?

    Why and How do any of these things "preserve Owen's legacy?"

    Why does Martha even need WWE to "preserve Owen's legacy?" His legacy is already pretty secure.
    What if they agreed to have all proceeds go toward some kinda charity? I think Vince would be okay with that, because doing stuff like that improves WWE's image and earns him money indirectly.

    I'm thinking Martha would know this and still block it. But ultimately, it eventually becomes petty. WWE has changed a lot and they learned and don't do stunts like that anymore. Eventually, Owen remembrance should happen. Part of the repercussion of not allowing WWE to air material about Owen means the tragedy is less remembered.
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    Originally Posted by TheDivil View Post
    I think it's a shame that because of all this, Owen's legacy will pretty much be forgotten about over time. No action figures, no DVD's, no Hall of Fame. That's a huge tragedy.

    But, I can see where Martha is coming from. Her husband was killed out of basic stupidity and negligence by a multi-million dollar corporation. Not only that, but they went to trial and did everything they could to shift the blame off themselves and even onto Owen himself.

    On top of that, they've never respected her wishes on anything - from showing up at the funeral when she asked them not to (in a giant WWE bus with a banner on the side) to still using footage of him, etc.

    I sometimes get the feeling that wrestling fans put wrestling above real life, which is pretty disturbing. Comparing Benoit's murders to a wrestler having a drug problem, or Martha should just overlook the tragic death of her husband so he can have an action figure, etc. Priorities, people.
    it does sound trivial but it's actually alil more than just action figures.

    lets think about his kids. how exactly are they being taken care of ? what ever lifestyle they have could only be improved if their dad would get the recognition he deserves. Owen was just as talented and recognised as bret (at the time) and who his kids who are left without a father could still get cared for. Eddie G's family is doing well and vickie even has a job. a dvd with bret controlling and commentating over would work. I think if anything owen would at least want his kids set up for life because of his body of work and achievements
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    Originally Posted by kneeonbelly View Post
    it does sound trivial but it's actually alil more than just action figures.

    lets think about his kids. how exactly are they being taken care of ? what ever lifestyle they have could only be improved if their dad would get the recognition he deserves. Owen was just as talented and recognised as bret (at the time) and who his kids who are left without a father could still get cared for. Eddie G's family is doing well and vickie even has a job. a dvd with bret controlling and commentating over would work. I think if anything owen would at least want his kids set up for life because of his body of work and achievements
    I'm with you, man. I'd love an Owen DVD set myself.

    As far as being financially set, Martha got a HUGE multi-million dollar settlement after the accident, so she is definitely set for life.
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    Owen rememberances by WWE would be wrong-simply Vince put money over safety & whichever way you cut it, his penny pinching ways & lack of respect for a guy who was not a member of his family, or a main eventer cost him his life. No way would he have done that with somebody like UT, Austin, Rock etc.

    A DVD would be good-he had plenty of great matches in WWF & they also have the stampede library where he had some classics with the likes of Dynamite & Bastion Booger when he went as Makhan Singh. Although a lot of his best work was in NJPW-which they do not have the rights to.
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    As much as I'd love for Owen to be honored by the WWE, it simply will not happen in our life time. Martha owes nothing to Vince or the WWE as they essentially took everything away from her and her family. She has every right to be bitter.
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    Originally Posted by TheDivil View Post
    I'm with you, man. I'd love an Owen DVD set myself.

    As far as being financially set, Martha got a HUGE multi-million dollar settlement after the accident, so she is definitely set for life.
    this i didnt know. it would have taken the power of 10 clarence masons to get vince to turn over all owen footage to her in part of the settlement.
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