Animal Hell-Raiser Training (HRT) Official Q&A Thread

[alansirvine]

Hey guys
Just on week one
We dont have a hack squat set up here
Wondering, if I sub with leg press, how many sets am I looking at? Or what would better options be

Thanks a lot

[thorfinnr]

Hey guys
Just on week one
We dont have a hack squat set up here
Wondering, if I sub with leg press, how many sets am I looking at? Or what would better options be

Thanks a lot

I was in the same boat, no Hack-machine. Leg Press is what several of the guys suggested to sub in. Test out what weights will work best for the working set to get the full reps plus the Hellcentrics in...also based on if you're flying solo or working with a partner.

Starting out lighter is always better...you can always add weights...but go too heavy to start and you can get yourself into trouble.

Lift smart, and stay strong! Good Luck...keep us posted.

[alansirvine]

I was in the same boat, no Hack-machine. Leg Press is what several of the guys suggested to sub in. Test out what weights will work best for the working set to get the full reps plus the Hellcentrics in...also based on if you're flying solo or working with a partner.

Starting out lighter is always better...you can always add weights...but go too heavy to start and you can get yourself into trouble.

Lift smart, and stay strong! Good Luck...keep us posted.

Roger, thanks for the reply.
Just one last thing, am I still only looking at the two sets to replace both hack squats?

-Al

[thorfinnr]

Roger, thanks for the reply.
Just one last thing, am I still only looking at the two sets to replace both hack squats?

-Al

OK...I wasn't thinking the right sub. Totally my bad. Here's the Day 2 program I used since we had no Hack Machine. These suggestions were from Rage, Garrick, and the rest of the regular guys here.

HRT - Day 2

Leg Press
Warm Up = 3 sets
Working SET = 2 sets

Leg Extension
SET = 2

Smith Squat(No Hack machine/rack)
SET = 2

Straight-Leg Dead Lift(Smith Machine)
WU = 2
SET = 2

Lying Leg Curl
SET = 2

I used a Smith Rack for the Squats and SLDLs, but doing them free weight is OK, but definitely work lighter weight on the Squats. I strongly recommend to use the Smith if doing this solo for the Squats, as it adds a level of safety by setting the breaks in case you hit failure on the Hellcentrics...that way you can lower down and get out from under the weight safely and without injury.

Even when working with a partner, we did Squats on the Smith, as it helps with stabilization when doing the assisted Hellcentric reps.

[alansirvine]

OK...I wasn't thinking the right sub. Totally my bad. Here's the Day 2 program I used since we had no Hack Machine. These suggestions were from Rage, Garrick, and the rest of the regular guys here.

HRT - Day 2

Leg Press
Warm Up = 3 sets
Working SET = 2 sets

Leg Extension
SET = 2

Smith Squat(No Hack machine/rack)
SET = 2

Straight-Leg Dead Lift(Smith Machine)
WU = 2
SET = 2

Lying Leg Curl
SET = 2

I used a Smith Rack for the Squats and SLDLs, but doing them free weight is OK, but definitely work lighter weight on the Squats. I strongly recommend to use the Smith if doing this solo for the Squats, as it adds a level of safety by setting the breaks in case you hit failure on the Hellcentrics...that way you can lower down and get out from under the weight safely and without injury.

Even when working with a partner, we did Squats on the Smith, as it helps with stabilization when doing the assisted Hellcentric reps.

Fantastic man
Can't wait to try it out tomorrow!

Thanks again

[brad23]

OK...I wasn't thinking the right sub. Totally my bad. Here's the Day 2 program I used since we had no Hack Machine. These suggestions were from Rage, Garrick, and the rest of the regular guys here.

HRT - Day 2

Leg Press
Warm Up = 3 sets
Working SET = 2 sets

Leg Extension
SET = 2

Smith Squat(No Hack machine/rack)
SET = 2

Straight-Leg Dead Lift(Smith Machine)
WU = 2
SET = 2

Lying Leg Curl
SET = 2

I used a Smith Rack for the Squats and SLDLs, but doing them free weight is OK, but definitely work lighter weight on the Squats. I strongly recommend to use the Smith if doing this solo for the Squats, as it adds a level of safety by setting the breaks in case you hit failure on the Hellcentrics...that way you can lower down and get out from under the weight safely and without injury.

Even when working with a partner, we did Squats on the Smith, as it helps with stabilization when doing the assisted Hellcentric reps.

Leg day for HRT is a ton of fun!!.....:/ lol. Great work brother!

[aleksandar1389]

Rage,do you eat cooked peas and broccoli on your 12weeks program?

[mrdead]

Rage,do you eat cooked peas and broccoli on your 12weeks program?

You can... But either fresh or frozen... Not canned...

[ragingmuscle]

Rage,do you eat cooked peas and broccoli on your 12weeks program?

You can... But either fresh or frozen... Not canned...

Indeed. Favor the broccoli over the peas since they are a bit dense and higher in sugar per cup.

[nazarite777]

My last week of HRT and man has it been the best routine I've ever followed. Intense is an understatement! Wish there was something to commemorate me finishing 12weeks I mean other than whati already see in the mirror..

Thanks rage! I will be doing this again after 4weeks!

[ragingmuscle]

My last week of HRT and man has it been the best routine I've ever followed. Intense is an understatement! Wish there was something to commemorate me finishing 12weeks I mean other than whati already see in the mirror..

Thanks rage! I will be doing this again after 4weeks!

Good to hear brother. PM me.

[WOD2]

How should one breathe while he is training on this program ( Specially on negative reps). The reason I am asking this is because on negative reps you are actually spending more time breathing in and very less time on breathing out ( this is considered very bad breathing by many experts on the subject). This question is more specific to HRT solo. Please guide and suggest.

[KorStrength]

HRT Solo question:

I'll preface this by saying that I know programs are written like they are for a reason. Especially this one. You guys have science to back everything, and I love the program. I've never been more humbled and felt more accomplished in the gym like I have since starting HRT Solo. Now that that's out of the way, here's my question:

Has anyone had any success in doing some heavy bench work, say 2 sets of 3 prior to beginning the HRT day?

To be clear here's a sample chest day (removing Decline because my gym doesn't have one)

Bench Press (heavy) 2x3
Bench Press (HRT Solo style)
Incline (HRT Solo style)
Pec Dec (again, no decline)

Part two of the question...

Is using DBs instead of barbell frowned upon?

Figured I'd ask. Going to keep rolling regardless.

[mctrader07]

wow it looks like there is a new product coming out here. I have read that with the right training your body really shows the results. Not only are you physically fit but you also look great too.

Great stuff on the forums.

[mrdead]

HRT Solo question:

I'll preface this by saying that I know programs are written like they are for a reason. Especially this one. You guys have science to back everything, and I love the program. I've never been more humbled and felt more accomplished in the gym like I have since starting HRT Solo. Now that that's out of the way, here's my question:

Has anyone had any success in doing some heavy bench work, say 2 sets of 3 prior to beginning the HRT day?

To be clear here's a sample chest day (removing Decline because my gym doesn't have one)

Bench Press (heavy) 2x3
Bench Press (HRT Solo style)
Incline (HRT Solo style)
Pec Dec (again, no decline)

Part two of the question...

Is using DBs instead of barbell frowned upon?

Figured I'd ask. Going to keep rolling regardless.

Part one: Don't see why you couldn't... None of this is totally etched in stone/non-customizeable...

Part two: DB's are perfectly acceptable...

[thorfinnr]

Will stacking Pump and the new Rage XL now be overkill on the Creatine, and could it lead to some bloat? (I never had any bloat before and I just want to make sure how the 2 different supps will combine in that regard.)

I was using Rage and Pump together. Pump had the Creatine Matrix, and Rage had no Creatine in it. Now, we have Rage XL, which does contain Creatine Mono.

I have finally used up my Orange Juiced(which I loved, and I know many did not like the taste) and I am ready to restock my Pump, so wanting to get the most bang for my buck without being wasteful.

Thanks all.

I would also make the assessment to still drop the red pill from Pump to make sure not to over-stim.

[mrdead]

Will stacking Pump and the new Rage XL now be overkill on the Creatine, and could it lead to some bloat? (I never had any bloat before and I just want to make sure how the 2 different supps will combine in that regard.)

I was using Rage and Pump together. Pump had the Creatine Matrix, and Rage had no Creatine in it. Now, we have Rage XL, which does contain Creatine Mono.

I have finally used up my Orange Juiced(which I loved, and I know many did not like the taste) and I am ready to restock my Pump, so wanting to get the most bang for my buck without being wasteful.

Thanks all.

I would also make the assessment to still drop the red pill from Pump to make sure not to over-stim.

The main issue with a lot of supplements, is that everyone responds differently... And there a cases like me, that mega dose due to some health-related concerns... My mother has a recent diagnosis of a form of adult onset Muscular Dystrophy... And creatine has shown to have beneficial effects in regards to that... And some people are either slow or non-responders... But, from a frugal standpoint, I have a hard time justifying taking 2 different preworkouts at the same time...

[thorfinnr]

The main issue with a lot of supplements, is that everyone responds differently... And there a cases like me, that mega dose due to some health-related concerns... My mother has a recent diagnosis of a form of adult onset Muscular Dystrophy... And creatine has shown to have beneficial effects in regards to that... And some people are either slow or non-responders... But, from a frugal standpoint, I have a hard time justifying taking 2 different preworkouts at the same time...

Usually I would not stack 2 pres, agreed. I was following the suggestion of Universal; and Rage himself had suggested pairing the Pump and Rage(he's who told me to remove the red pill to not over stim). I used these in combination since previously PUMP had my daily Creatine and had the vaso-dilators, etc...which is why I have concern now with combining the 2. As long as no other formulation has changed, I'm not sure it would be much diff, other than the overkill on the Creatine. And based on what studies you read, the little bit extra of Creatine may or may not get used by the body.

Thanks for the input Deadman, always appreciated!

[BFJ]

found a research study that basically uses a flywheel to store energy and then release it back at the person training with the machine for extra HELLCENTRIC overload - talked about in episode 37 at http://appliedmusclescience.com study abstract here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24263657. couldn't believe i hadn't been aware of this as I'm a huge fan of negatives and apparently this kind of research has been going on since 1989!

[muscle1674]

Bench Press (heavy) 2x3
Bench Press (HRT Solo style)
Incline (HRT Solo style)
Pec Dec (again, no decline)

I've been messing around with this extra set as well and I like it I might not go too too heavy where I'm totally taxed on the 2x3 but my chest is extrememly lacking so I figured I'd hit it again. What does the experts think about adding this small extra to the hrt solo, I've only tried it like 2ice because hrt has already been kicking my ass

[BFJ]

Bench Press (heavy) 2x3
Bench Press (HRT Solo style)
Incline (HRT Solo style)
Pec Dec (again, no decline)

I've been messing around with this extra set as well and I like it I might not go too too heavy where I'm totally taxed on the 2x3 but my chest is extrememly lacking so I figured I'd hit it again. What does the experts think about adding this small extra to the hrt solo, I've only tried it like 2ice because hrt has already been kicking my ass

wont know till u try

[thorfinnr]

OK...Just want to make sure I got my head on straight here. Been a while since my last trip to Hell.

Doing HRT:Solo

Day 2 shows Leg Press, Hacks, and Revers Hacks.

My Gym has no Hack Machine.

I should be good with Leg Press, Regular Squats, and SLDLs, right?

Thanks in advance.

[mrdead]

OK...Just want to make sure I got my head on straight here. Been a while since my last trip to Hell.

Doing HRT:Solo

Day 2 shows Leg Press, Hacks, and Revers Hacks.

My Gym has no Hack Machine.

I should be good with Leg Press, Regular Squats, and SLDLs, right?

Thanks in advance.

That would work.

[softcutie91]

Mirin

[AllNaturalTom]

Looks great but definitely need an experienced spotter .

[Paulos20]

I understand the purpose of this program is to build size , but at the same time I want to gain lean muscle and maintain being 'cut'. Will this achieve that?
Starting today regardless.

[ragingmuscle]

I understand the purpose of this program is to build size , but at the same time I want to gain lean muscle and maintain being 'cut'. Will this achieve that?
Starting today regardless.

Indeed. One of my own experiences with this was when I was dieting for the North American while using HRT as my training regimen. I ended up putting on about 5 lbs of lean mass while holding my bf right at about 6% in the middle of that prep. The testing method was hydrostatic.