Animal Hell-Raiser Training (HRT) Official Q&A Thread

[BabyGunz76]

Load it on youtube and pm me the link if you want bro. Otherwise, just post it in here and I will review it.

This link should work I think..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_rn4...e_gdata_player

[ragingmuscle]

****ing fantastic. Great job brother. Post that vid in Hell Session II also brother. Nice work.

[BabyGunz76]

Do you have the link to the thread?

[mrdead]

Do you have the link to the thread?

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=139633663

[BabyGunz76]

No problem I posted it

[rockwood51]

Did you use one or two partners on that? I'd like to see someone post a vid of them having two people apply the partial reps on Hellcentrics Leg Press. I've done it but I want to see someone else step up.

You asked for it:

Set 1 (550lbs) - youtu.be/-bd9FANz8d4
Set 2 (640lbs) - youtu.be/vQ6DngGJ2Zs

BB.com won't let me post links because I don't have 50 posts yet so copy/paste into the address bar if you want to see it. Someone else feel free to post the real links.

I realized in watching these I'm probably going a little deep on my partials. It didn't feel like it but you can clearly see I'm not getting much more range of motion on the full negative.

My quads are not happy right now with my decisions tonight, haha. For part of it I was actually telling them to pull harder. BTW my partner is the skinny dude in the white on the left.


... and yes before anyone else says it, I'm a fat kid. I'm working on it lol.

[TheLetterF]

You asked for it:

...my partner is the skinny dude in the white on the left.

Present and accounted for

[neginfluence04]

Here is my question will there be a weekly update like the Kris Gethin 12 week program or will it be the same thing for all 12 weeks. I know this program is nothing like his just wondering if we will be doing the same few exercises each week or if they will change weekly with the same training principal? Thanks in advance I can't wait to kill this program or have it kill me only time will tell.

[BB2K]

You asked for it:

Set 1 (550lbs) - youtu.be/-bd9FANz8d4
Set 2 (640lbs) - youtu.be/vQ6DngGJ2Zs

BB.com won't let me post links because I don't have 50 posts yet so copy/paste into the address bar if you want to see it. Someone else feel free to post the real links.

I realized in watching these I'm probably going a little deep on my partials. It didn't feel like it but you can clearly see I'm not getting much more range of motion on the full negative.

My quads are not happy right now with my decisions tonight, haha. For part of it I was actually telling them to pull harder. BTW my partner is the skinny dude in the white on the left.


... and yes before anyone else says it, I'm a fat kid. I'm working on it lol.

[ragingmuscle]

No problem I posted it

Thanks brother.

[ragingmuscle]

You asked for it:

Set 1 (550lbs) - youtu.be/-bd9FANz8d4
Set 2 (640lbs) - youtu.be/vQ6DngGJ2Zs

BB.com won't let me post links because I don't have 50 posts yet so copy/paste into the address bar if you want to see it. Someone else feel free to post the real links.

I realized in watching these I'm probably going a little deep on my partials. It didn't feel like it but you can clearly see I'm not getting much more range of motion on the full negative.

My quads are not happy right now with my decisions tonight, haha. For part of it I was actually telling them to pull harder. BTW my partner is the skinny dude in the white on the left.


... and yes before anyone else says it, I'm a fat kid. I'm working on it lol.

Present and accounted for

Well done my brothers. Those partials are just fine. Your right in that you might have been able to go just a tad shallower, but nothing wrong with the way you did it. The partials function is to engage additional muscle fibers for the full neg. You did just that. That type of press is tough to apply Hellcentrics because the weights are so high, but you guys made it happen. Good work. I didn't check, but if you guys haven't entered the contest, I encourage you to get your names in.

[mrdead]

Posted this in the Nutrition thread, but figured I'd repost in here:
Will there be a nutrition plan for those that are either on a cut or in contest prep...???

[ragingmuscle]

Here is my question will there be a weekly update like the Kris Gethin 12 week program or will it be the same thing for all 12 weeks. I know this program is nothing like his just wondering if we will be doing the same few exercises each week or if they will change weekly with the same training principal? Thanks in advance I can't wait to kill this program or have it kill me only time will tell.

Most people don't know this, but Kris Gethin was instrumental in getting the Hell Raiser Training series on to Bodybuilding.com. He was very supportive of the training style and I have to give him tons of respect for all his help in the beginning stages of the series.

You'll run the same routine for all 12 weeks. I have had guys run this same routine for 12 MONTHS straight believe it or not and they did not plateau. See, part of the reason you can run this program for a longer period of time without switching things up is because of the constant overload the Hellcentrics puts on the muscles.

[ragingmuscle]

It's brothers like BB2K that make **** happen. Thanks for the support brother.

[ragingmuscle]

Posted this in the Nutrition thread, but figured I'd repost in here:
Will there be a nutrition plan for those that are either on a cut or in contest prep...???

Good question. As you know, this is very individual specific. On an average prep starting around 16 weeks out, I generally always set the carbs at 150 grams per day for anyone no matter their size. There are always exceptions of course, but this is my general rule of thumb for an athlete thats already starting their cut in pretty good shape. The protein will be the same generally at 1.5 grams per pound of lean body mass.

From there, it's weekly and sometimes bi-weekly adjustments.

[G Diesel]

Those are a couple of hardcore, heavy sets of HRT leg press... Not for the weak or timid. Much respect fellas.

Peace, G

[ragingmuscle]

300 lb NPC Competitor Jay Bartlett slams Chest and Tri's. Great having you brother.

[rockwood51]

Well done my brothers. Those partials are just fine. Your right in that you might have been able to go just a tad shallower, but nothing wrong with the way you did it. The partials function is to engage additional muscle fibers for the full neg. You did just that. That type of press is tough to apply Hellcentrics because the weights are so high, but you guys made it happen. Good work. I didn't check, but if you guys haven't entered the contest, I encourage you to get your names in.

We're signed up and ready to go.

[neginfluence04]

Most people don't know this, but Kris Gethin was instrumental in getting the Hell Raiser Training series on to Bodybuilding.com. He was very supportive of the training style and I have to give him tons of respect for all his help in the beginning stages of the series.

You'll run the same routine for all 12 weeks. I have had guys run this same routine for 12 MONTHS straight believe it or not and they did not plateau. See, part of the reason you can run this program for a longer period of time without switching things up is because of the constant overload the Hellcentrics puts on the muscles.

Kris is one hell of a guy and his program is very diverse and continues to keep my body guessing with his hrt, DTP, and many other forms of lifting. I have seen some great results with his program and wouldn't have done it for a second time back to back if I didn't think it worked. I'm just getting bored and looking for something new to push me to the next lvl. To be honest I'm not in it for the supplements nor is my workout partner. We want the 1 on 1 time with a pro like yourself and the chance to kick some ass in the gym. Regardless if we are chosen for the top 10 to compete or not we are still going to log the program and hold nothing back.

[ragingmuscle]

Kris is one hell of a guy and his program is very diverse and continues to keep my body guessing with his hrt, DTP, and many other forms of lifting. I have seen some great results with his program and wouldn't have done it for a second time back to back if I didn't think it worked. I'm just getting bored and looking for something new to push me to the next lvl. To be honest I'm not in it for the supplements nor is my workout partner. We want the 1 on 1 time with a pro like yourself and the chance to kick some ass in the gym. Regardless if we are chosen for the top 10 to compete or not we are still going to log the program and hold nothing back.

Great attitude my brother. Looking forward to it either way.

[turbo94hb]

Alright, First time posted on here. I'm on week 3 of Hellcentrics and sticking to all of the exercises, eating, supplements and resting. My partner and I both love the program, but have some questions. While doing every exercise we are completely wiped out. Down to the last ounce of power we have left. We have never breathed or sweated so bad lifting weights. Our only concern is that we aren't sore like we would be by doing the standard 3 set of 10-13 reps. So, we are wondering if we are doing it correctly. I have watched all the videos and followed as told. But like i said, just not feeling the soreness like we would with other programs. If you have any insite on this, please let me know. He's ready to jump ship, but I'm all in. Thanks for your time!

[rockwood51]

Alright, First time posted on here. I'm on week 3 of Hellcentrics and sticking to all of the exercises, eating, supplements and resting. My partner and I both love the program, but have some questions. While doing every exercise we are completely wiped out. Down to the last ounce of power we have left. We have never breathed or sweated so bad lifting weights. Our only concern is that we aren't sore like we would be by doing the standard 3 set of 10-13 reps. So, we are wondering if we are doing it correctly. I have watched all the videos and followed as told. But like i said, just not feeling the soreness like we would with other programs. If you have any insite on this, please let me know. He's ready to jump ship, but I'm all in. Thanks for your time!

I've noticed similar results. Actually it's quite amazing, because I don't fell as "run down" as I used to with the program I had put together before HRT. We'd leave the gym dragging our asses and feeling like crap. With HRT we can definitely tell we've hit the right muscle groups, and hit them hard, but we still have energy and feel really good at the end. It's nice.

I'm positive its not a problem with not working hard enough. Last chest day I was telling my partner that I didn't feel like I'd worked hard enough. He replied with "do a push-up then." I couldn't keep my body off the floor as soon as my elbows unlocked. My chest/tri's were roasted. I just didn't hurt. I didn't feel sore until the next afternoon which I have a feeling has something to do with diet.

I'm sure Rage will chime in on this as well but I don't think you necessarily need to feel like you're going to die in order to get the workout right and see real results. I'd honestly think that tends to lean into the realm of over training after experiencing the first 3 weeks of HRT.

[rsd147]

Okay I am coming to end of Kris Gethin 12 week program and looking for a program to put size, lean muscle and thinking this looks like the program for me, however, I dont have a training partner and the gym I go to is not very big and not busy so wouldn't really be able to get anyone to spot me. How would I be able to do this program on my own or would I not be able to?

[ragingmuscle]

Alright, First time posted on here. I'm on week 3 of Hellcentrics and sticking to all of the exercises, eating, supplements and resting. My partner and I both love the program, but have some questions. While doing every exercise we are completely wiped out. Down to the last ounce of power we have left. We have never breathed or sweated so bad lifting weights. Our only concern is that we aren't sore like we would be by doing the standard 3 set of 10-13 reps. So, we are wondering if we are doing it correctly. I have watched all the videos and followed as told. But like i said, just not feeling the soreness like we would with other programs. If you have any insite on this, please let me know. He's ready to jump ship, but I'm all in. Thanks for your time!

Everybody is different. I've said before and I'll say it over and over again. HRT is 'a way' not 'the' way. What works for some doesn't work for others, BUT....watch my training overview episode again real quick. You'll notice I say something key in there. Your not going for the typical 'burn' but instead your exhausting the muscle in a different manner. Typically, the soreness should be there in at least your legs from week to week. The Hellcentrics should cause enough 'good damage' to cause some reasonable level of soreness.

In the end, it's about one thing...adding size in a bulk or holding lean in a cut. I suggest you ride it out for 12 weeks to give it a fair shake before jumping ship. Look in the mirror when your finished and you guys be the judge. Make some adjustments to the weight along the way. By the end of each second set, you should be failing.

[ragingmuscle]

Okay I am coming to end of Kris Gethin 12 week program and looking for a program to put size, lean muscle and thinking this looks like the program for me, however, I dont have a training partner and the gym I go to is not very big and not busy so wouldn't really be able to get anyone to spot me. How would I be able to do this program on my own or would I not be able to?

You bet bro.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=139729913

[tallgod]

Can you post some b4 and after of yourself and stats?

[rsd147]

Yes I spotted this after thanks, but it seems to basically add two more negative reps than this thread and I want to know how we can do the negative reps when training on your own?

[ragingmuscle]

Can you post some b4 and after of yourself and stats?

Your asking this of me correct?

[ragingmuscle]

Yes I spotted this after thanks, but it seems to basically add two more negative reps than this thread and I want to know how we can do the negative reps when training on your own?

That's correct. Slow and controlled on the negs descending at the rate of a 5 count on each. You can also self spot and apply more resistance on some lifts such as concentration curls. Hellcentris application requires a training partner. Another option is to grab a heavier weight when you finish the initial 8 reps.

[rsd147]

That's correct. Slow and controlled on the negs descending at the rate of a 5 count on each. You can also self spot and apply more resistance on some lifts such as concentration curls. Hellcentris application requires a training partner. Another option is to grab a heavier weight when you finish the initial 8 reps.

But it states there is a solo program but how can you do the negative reps when it comes to sessions on chest for example