What's the STRONGEST pre-workout supplement?

**RoyL** · 10-19-2011, 09:36 PM

How do you determine how strong the product is? What ingredient makes a pre-workout supplement strong? Caffeine? Sugar? Both? I want to compare supplements and be able to choose the strongest supplement by reading the ingredients. I've tried; Hemo-Rage Ultra Concentrate, N.O.-Xplode, C4 Extreme, MusclePharm Assault, NeuroCore, Gamma Labs, and naNO Vapor. These products have absolutely no effect on me, I can drink 3 scoops of Hemo-Rage Ultra Concentrate and sleep like a baby. I am ready to give up on pre-workouts since they have no effect on me, can anyone suggest some stronger products or suggestions what to do to get these supplements to work on me.

**Supplement-Slut** · 10-19-2011, 09:58 PM

Look for a product with every ingredient but the kitchen sink.

Dark Rage and Muscle Marinade were the two strongest I've had

**ChrisG12** · 10-19-2011, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by RoyL

How do you determine how strong the product is? What ingredient makes a pre-workout supplement strong? Caffeine? Sugar? Both? I want to compare supplements and be able to choose the strongest supplement by reading the ingredients. I've tried; Hemo-Rage Ultra Concentrate, N.O.-Xplode, C4 Extreme, MusclePharm Assault, NeuroCore, Gamma Labs, and naNO Vapor. These products have absolutely no effect on me, I can drink 3 scoops of Hemo-Rage Ultra Concentrate and sleep like a baby. I am ready to give up on pre-workouts since they have no effect on me, can anyone suggest some stronger products or suggestions what to do to get these supplements to work on me.

Try cycling off for a month. Your tolerance must be through the roofs.

**djansen** · 10-19-2011, 10:06 PM

Ultima...

**RoyL** · 10-19-2011, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by Supplement-Slut

Look for a product with every ingredient but the kitchen sink.

?? What?

And thanks for the suggestions, I will look into those products

**RoyL** · 10-19-2011, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisG12

Try cycling off for a month. Your tolerance must be through the roofs.

Ok so should I lay off pre-workouts for a month? What else?

**RoyL** · 10-19-2011, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by djansen

Ultima...

Thank you I'll look into that aswell

**GHO5T** · 10-19-2011, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by RoyL

Ok so should I lay off pre-workouts for a month? What else?

Sounds like you have built your tolerance high. You should prob go on a 3-4 week stim break. Then after that you can look into stimmed pres like White Flood, Fierce, and PSU. There are also stim free choices like Vengeance and Hemavol

**Mr.Cooper69** · 10-19-2011, 10:19 PM

Blood Rush Pump. Over 1g caffeine per serving ftw

**NtensionalWalk** · 10-19-2011, 10:24 PM

ever heard of will power? maybe instead of seeking out the strongest possible product to put into your body you should learn how to workout without relying on some stupid powder

**PaleVein** · 10-19-2011, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by Supplement-Slut

Look for a product with every ingredient but the kitchen sink.

Dark Rage and Muscle Marinade were the two strongest I've had

+1 for Muscle Marinade.

Was Dark Rage quality strong? Always contemplated trying it out.

**CDMMA** · 10-19-2011, 11:30 PM

*******/10

**WaxyMaize** · 10-19-2011, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by CDMMA

*******/10

speed brah

**CDMMA** · 10-19-2011, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by WaxyMaize

speed brah

Hmm, that too, and PCP.

**jcwhs7** · 10-19-2011, 11:56 PM

1-mr

**nazab** · 10-20-2011, 12:09 AM

If you're that stim tolerant, then you definitely need a break from stims for atleast one month. Recommending other pre's for you is useless, you need the break.

**kr1kit** · 10-20-2011, 12:18 AM

I wish I had some of your tolerance... I don't take any stim supplements as they drive me insane, it'd be nice to be able to.

**or_yourlivingtodie** · 10-20-2011, 12:21 AM

maximize v2

**RoyL** · 10-20-2011, 12:27 AM

Thanks for the comments and I'll be sure to check ALL the suggested supplements (except the drugs :|) and to those who suggest a break, I will be taking a month off! I believe I do have a high tolerance.

**CDMMA** · 10-20-2011, 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by kr1kit

I wish I had some of your tolerance... I don't take any stim supplements as they drive me insane, it'd be nice to be able to.

I would much rather be super sensitive to stims, rather than extremely tolerant.

You should just opt to go with a stim-free pre, and if you still need energy, buy some caffeine tabs/caps/powder and dose it at like 50-100mg.

Originally Posted by RoyL

(except the drugs :|)

lol

**justfive** · 10-20-2011, 01:50 AM

Originally Posted by CDMMA

I would much rather be super sensitive to stims, rather than extremely tolerant.

You should just opt to go with a stim-free pre, and if you still need energy, buy some caffeine tabs/caps/powder and dose it at like 50-100mg.

Bingo. It feels good to not have to use a stim pre workout on a daily basis, and then have the chance to use one on those very difficult days to give you a boost. Hemavol is where its at

**Doolee** · 10-20-2011, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.Cooper69

Blood Rush Pump. Over 1g caffeine per serving ftw

How has this product not killed some poor kid yet?
1g caffeine, arginine, and glutamine. Well, I'm sold.

**poison** · 10-20-2011, 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.Cooper69

Blood Rush Pump. Over 1g caffeine per serving ftw

I just take 5 servings of Fierce. Normally it'd be lethal, due to the nitrates, but extreme vasoconstriction from the gram of caffeine balances it out.

/notsrs

**CDMMA** · 10-20-2011, 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by poison

I just take 5 servings of Fierce. Normally it'd be lethal, due to the nitrates, but extreme vasoconstriction from the gram of caffeine balances it out.

Hmm, will try.

**AussieRobbie** · 10-20-2011, 03:40 AM

yeah man im exactly the same, was off pre workouts for around 4 months, tried HemoRage... not a thing...
/feelsletdown

**FarazF** · 10-20-2011, 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by AussieRobbie

yeah man im exactly the same, was off pre workouts for around 4 months, tried HemoRage... not a thing...
/feelsletdown

Its not just about being off pre workouts. You have to cut out all sources of caffeine, the major contributor being cup(s) of coffee daily.

**aygray** · 10-20-2011, 04:18 AM

Meth.

**Impregnator** · 10-20-2011, 04:33 AM

take a couple months off, or try muscle marinade, supposed to be hardcore.. 1,3 AND tons of caffeine and energy herbal ingredients..

**justfive** · 10-20-2011, 04:45 AM

How is it not a natural reaction for people who experience such an increase in tolerance towards these substances to actually lay off of the products for a while? Instead I see so many threads asking about what is stronger than the previous one...

**miamibodybuilder** · 10-20-2011, 05:09 AM

well in my opinion the best pre-workout out right now is AAEFX'S KOTIC. i've been using this product for almost a year now and i truly love it. is it the most powerful one out there, probably not in people opinions. but for me, it gets the job done and gets it done right. it gives me the right amount of energy and focus for an entire workout, but unlike other pre-workouts that guys tell me about, there is no crash after. most guys tell me how lethargic they feel once their so-called pump or high wears out. not with KOTIC, there is no crash whatsoever afterwards.

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