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    Upper body v lower

    Now, obviously the lower body is far far far stronger, but the problem I have is that my legs are far stronger than my upper body. Basically, what I mean is that today I could 220 pounds (Or however much it is from 100kg) 25 reps x 4 with no problem except my right knee cap now hurts like a dull ache and it's quite bad, anyways, calf raises 137 llbs (30kg dumbelles each arm) 25 reps x 4sets, 40 second rest.

    I'm only 15, weigh 65kg, 1 m 75...

    I can't even bench 30kg 10 reps without getting tired, my arms aren't that big and I've worked on them so much and rested them properly, I'm stronger but not that much. My dad said he was like that too, genetics much? Why am I so weak upper body? I mean my triceps are strong but my biceps are so weak, my chest too, even my lats aren't that strong, I seem skinny on upper body, I guess my abs are alright. I'm more like my father who was a runner and was a rather weak person :/ He had strong legs though. This sounds really strange? My arms are 12.7" but are still weak...

    I don't understand what I'm doing wrong, why can't I build up the strength for my upper body? It makes no sense to me.
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    Your lower body is stronger than your upper. I do not see the issue.
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    Originally Posted by spiderman997 View Post
    Your lower body is stronger than your upper. I do not see the issue.
    My issue is that my upper body is weak, weak, weak where as my lower body is far stronger and I can even lift double my weight no problem squatting (may start to feel numb in arms though)

    I mean, 30kg is puny? Right?
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    Originally Posted by Teamomga View Post
    My issue is that my upper body is weak, weak, weak where as my lower body is far stronger and I can even lift double my weight no problem squatting
    I still do not see the problem. Gain weight and bench more.
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    Originally Posted by Teamomga View Post
    My issue is that my upper body is weak, weak, weak where as my lower body is far stronger and I can even lift double my weight no problem squatting (may start to feel numb in arms though)

    I mean, 30kg is puny? Right?
    100kg squat for 25 reps at your bodyweight? (thats pretty fuarkin impressive btw, just sayin)

    and you bench 30kg for 10?

    wtf am i reading bro
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    Originally Posted by spiderman997 View Post
    I still do not see the problem. Gain weight and bench more.
    And to gain mass, I do what? I'm going high rep because we don't have heavy weights in my schools gym.. that are avaliable, I have to wait, a long time and I only got 45 minutes there. I eat about 3000 kals a day now, I take a lot of protein in, I take creatine too and I'm still not bulking up and getting stronger on my arms.
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    i was squatting 295 narrow legged for 8 reps before i could even 1 rep with 200 on bench
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    Originally Posted by Bestbrah View Post
    100kg squat for 25 reps at your bodyweight? (thats pretty fuarkin impressive btw, just sayin)

    and you bench 30kg for 10?

    wtf am i reading bro
    This is what I meant, I don't understand how my upper body is so poor in strength whereas my lower is far stronger.
    Oh and unfortunately I take on from my mothers small arms lol, small bones anyways. I admit I squatted a lot to begin with weight traning for about 4 weeks but then I realised I was only doing my legs mainly so I did a balanced routine after a 3 week break where I only did cardio.

    How do I increase upper body strength? It's pathetic what I can do.
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    Originally Posted by Teamomga View Post
    This is what I meant, I don't understand how my upper body is so poor in strength whereas my lower is far stronger.
    Oh and unfortunately I take on from my mothers small arms lol, small bones anyways. I admit I squatted a lot to begin with weight traning for about 4 weeks but then I realised I was only doing my legs mainly so I did a balanced routine after a 3 week break where I only did cardio.

    How do I increase upper body strength? It's pathetic what I can do.
    I have these small wrists :/ I always had big devloped legs. I have weak lats too, I mean, 60kg is my max on lateral pulls.

    Bicep curl max is about 30kg clean and I tend to cheat getting up to 7 reps and build up all this lactic in my forearms.

    Ha... it's a huge problem for me because I can't lift up the weights to get the free weight for squatting because atm the squatting racks broke thanks to some idiots, so I use the smiths machine atm.
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    Originally Posted by Teamomga View Post
    This is what I meant, I don't understand how my upper body is so poor in strength whereas my lower is far stronger.
    Oh and unfortunately I take on from my mothers small arms lol, small bones anyways. I admit I squatted a lot to begin with weight traning for about 4 weeks but then I realised I was only doing my legs mainly so I did a balanced routine after a 3 week break where I only did cardio.

    How do I increase upper body strength? It's pathetic what I can do.
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    Originally Posted by Teamomga View Post
    This is what I meant, I don't understand how my upper body is so poor in strength whereas my lower is far stronger.
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    What do you use to walk on ? , what do you use to run on ?, what do are you supposed to lift with ? Your legs are far more active than your upper body in terms of day to day activity . Also when we run we exert a force of around 2.5x times our own body weight through our legs . if your upper body ever caught up with your legs you would look ridiculous . There is a reason we walk on our feet and not our hands .
    Ka0s :In my experience, doing heavy barbell squats, bench presses, deadlifts, military presses, rows, etc. builds no significant muscle mass.
    What you need to really get big is a solid routine which focuses on light weights and cable movements to really force blood into those muscles and get that deep burn & powerful contraction
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    i don't think that those squats are parallel...
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    Originally Posted by aec32094 View Post
    i don't think that those squats are parallel...
    ? I do mine with correct form and they are properly done. I can do narrow, parrallel and wide at the same wieghts.
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    ? I do mine with correct form and they are properly done. I can do narrow, parrallel and wide at the same wieghts.
    interesting.

    have videos of you lifts?

    also, how much do you deadlift?
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    srs i want to know what your other lifts are.
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    Originally Posted by aec32094 View Post
    srs i want to know what your other lifts are.
    Sorry, I never figured out how to find my old threads, expect via bookmarks and I'm using a new browser. I'm stupid, lol, I'm the one that builds computers and has a rather good knowledge of them but can't figure out how to find a thread? lol Found it on my dashboard.

    Anyways, I think you can check my profile to see my other lifts.

    Umm, the problem about deadlifting is we've only got a smiths machine for heavier weights since the squat rack broke and guess what? My school put the other plates somewhere else so atm I've only been able to fit 80KG and I could of done more if they were all metal plates, had to have one huge ass vinvly plate. Anyways, it was 82kg.

    As for my bench, it's pretty weak but at max with a lot of trouble, 72kg at 1rm, but do keep in mind, I have very long arms (27" in length) for my size and and a smallish chest (but rather wide) so I usually am capable of doing 60kg for about 5 reps, 42.6kg for 20 reps (use it to get pumped up) etc

    What other lifts to talk about? T bar was @ 55KG, because, like I said, I don't have enough plates in the room, that was for 50 reps (on the first rep try I pulled it and it wasn't on the corner properly and it smacked me in the arse lol, then my secod try my 1st rep was correct... no smacking) Lat pull down is about 40KG or so (yeah, weak :/) 40kg shoulder press (barbell) ermm, 20KG dumbelle hammer curls at 5 reps, of which only the first rep is good form. Isolated bicep curls is at 15KG for 5reps (I get loaded with lactic by then, ahhh it burns) and I'm unable to do wrist curls, it hurts, A LOT, maybe a result of my small wrists and prolonged time on the keyboard? I was a pc gamer too, so that mouse didn't help, nor when console gaming with that controller. Hurts like crazy. In fact, my wrists are 5.8 inches, so you get the point, but my forearms at peak are 11" O.o, but this is genetically from my mother, whom too has small wrists, as opposed to my fathers gigantic bone density... anyways - incline chest press, 20KG at max, I think, if I could fit more weights on the bar, I'd try higher but atm I can only fit stupidly big 5kg plates onto it, and that's 4 of them.

    What else...? Calf raises I could do 40kg for about 20 reps x 5 sets, but, it hurts my shoulders to a point it feels like it'd be dislocated lol. Yes, that is dumbell, and at the time I was able to fit more of the plates on, YAY! as for triceps? Can do a tri pull of 40kg, all I've tried at max, although, I may of done 50kg before, not so sure, wouldn't that mean I could bench 100kg? Meh, it was for dumbells btw. Never tried tricep extensions because I dislike the idea of having the weight over my head where I can't see it, even though it's perfectly safe... anyways, chest press or whatever it was on the smiths machine, I forgot now, it was 40kg, not a lot, I know.

    Can't really think of anything else to add... umm I can do finger press ups for about 10 reps before my bones feel crushed... well they feel like that anyways , but most of the time, I refrain from pushups because it hurts my wrists, a hell of a lot.

    Wait, I forgot one more thing! Sit ups @ 30kg lol is all I've tried (barbell) annnd shoulder shrugs @ 40kg barbell

    I'm 66KG and now 1.76m.

    Videos? I would but my internet is ****e and I'm the camera man, not the other person, however, other people have recorded there before, I may ask them next time to record me and upload a video, but it's somewhat embrassing with all these people who are bigger and older than you in a tiny room and they'll start making fun of you afterwards. I'll try though, one of my squatting, but unfortunately, it'll have to be on the smiths machine, atm though, unless they get a new squat rack... OR, I build up the strength to lift 120KG+ onto my back, I'm not so keen on people lifting it onto me, I'd rather a squat rack, although I hate the smiths... w/e. There you go

    I may consider videos now, thanks for the idea, kind sire.
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    OP, post your routine. I have a feeling there may be something wrong with it if your squat for 20 reps is over triple your bench for 10 reps.
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    You bench 30kg 0,0 I don't think my gym even hazz 5kg plates 0.0
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    - bench 72kg at 1rm, capable of doing 60kg for about 5 reps, 42.6kg for 20 reps (use it to get pumped up)
    - T bar was @ 55KG, that was for 50 reps (on the first rep try I pulled it and it wasn't on the corner properly and it smacked me in the arse lol, then my secod try my 1st rep was correct... no smacking) #### t-bar row x50 for 55kg? isthisreallife.jpg
    - Lat pull down is about 40KG or so ##### you do any pullups with your own bodyweight?
    - 40kg shoulder press (barbell) #### so you press 40kg with shoulders/tris & bench 60kg with pecs/tris (and tad with your shoulders)
    - 20KG dumbelle hammer curls at 5 reps
    - Isolated bicep curls is at 15KG for 5reps
    - incline chest press, 20KG at max, I think

    What else...?
    - Calf raises I could do 40kg for about 20 reps x 5 sets, but, it hurts my shoulders to a point it feels like it'd be dislocated lol ##### Doesnt make sense.
    - tri pull of 40kg
    - chest press or whatever it was on the smiths machine, I forgot now, it was 40kg
    - Sit ups @ 30kg lol is all I've tried (barbell)
    - shoulder shrugs @ 40kg barbell ##### mighty grip is mighty

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    Originally Posted by Teamomga View Post
    Now, obviously the lower body is far far far stronger, but the problem I have is that my legs are far stronger than my upper body. Basically, what I mean is that today I could 220 pounds (Or however much it is from 100kg) 25 reps x 4 with no problem except my right knee cap now hurts like a dull ache and it's quite bad, anyways, calf raises 137 llbs (30kg dumbelles each arm) 25 reps x 4sets, 40 second rest.

    I'm only 15, weigh 65kg, 1 m 75...

    I can't even bench 30kg 10 reps without getting tired, my arms aren't that big and I've worked on them so much and rested them properly, I'm stronger but not that much. My dad said he was like that too, genetics much? Why am I so weak upper body? I mean my triceps are strong but my biceps are so weak, my chest too, even my lats aren't that strong, I seem skinny on upper body, I guess my abs are alright. I'm more like my father who was a runner and was a rather weak person :/ He had strong legs though. This sounds really strange? My arms are 12.7" but are still weak...

    I don't understand what I'm doing wrong, why can't I build up the strength for my upper body? It makes no sense to me.
    bro.. you arnt strong haha im 65kg 12% bf nd 15 to and i do leg press 30 times 4 sets starting at 175 kg ending up at 220
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    Originally Posted by TheSlyyWan View Post
    bro.. you arnt strong haha im 65kg 12% bf nd 15 to and i do leg press 30 times 4 sets starting at 175 kg ending up at 220
    Oh sh!t guys, leg press! leg press is quite hard compared to squatting.

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    I wanna see vids of these squats to man.
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    If your upper body is stronger than your lower body, there is a problem. Just do something along the lines of SS and get strength in your upper body too
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    Originally Posted by Maxwell1995 View Post
    If your upper body is stronger than your lower body, there is a problem. Just do something along the lines of SS and get strength in your upper body too
    Time at the moment is my problem, I've got exams coming up so that's about 2 months off (I got mocks AND real exams, some finals of my GCSE) of my weight training and then I've only got my own bodys for any training, if I get time, go no bars for pull ups or w/e, but, push ups and sit ups I can do in the house, if I get time that is.

    The thing is, I enjoy working my legs, much more than my upperbody and I have an abbs day, should I just scrap it?
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    Originally Posted by TrollCrew View Post
    - bench 72kg at 1rm, capable of doing 60kg for about 5 reps, 42.6kg for 20 reps (use it to get pumped up)
    - T bar was @ 55KG, that was for 50 reps (on the first rep try I pulled it and it wasn't on the corner properly and it smacked me in the arse lol, then my secod try my 1st rep was correct... no smacking) #### t-bar row x50 for 55kg? isthisreallife.jpg
    - Lat pull down is about 40KG or so ##### you do any pullups with your own bodyweight?
    - 40kg shoulder press (barbell) #### so you press 40kg with shoulders/tris & bench 60kg with pecs/tris (and tad with your shoulders)
    - 20KG dumbelle hammer curls at 5 reps
    - Isolated bicep curls is at 15KG for 5reps
    - incline chest press, 20KG at max, I think

    What else...?
    - Calf raises I could do 40kg for about 20 reps x 5 sets, but, it hurts my shoulders to a point it feels like it'd be dislocated lol ##### Doesnt make sense.
    - tri pull of 40kg
    - chest press or whatever it was on the smiths machine, I forgot now, it was 40kg
    - Sit ups @ 30kg lol is all I've tried (barbell)
    - shoulder shrugs @ 40kg barbell ##### mighty grip is mighty

    I'm 66KG and now 1.76m.
    Tbar row, I meant 25 reps x 2 sets ( can go beyond that though), must of added it up in my mind whislt typing it out - lol. Though I learnt not to go above 15 reps... right? Because it becomes pointless after that.
    I've never tried pullups with an added weight, the school has the chains simmilar to what powerlifters use, could I possible put a weight on it and lock it up and strap it around me? In which case I'd get scared it'd break or fall on me but I'll ask the teachers there.
    Yeah, do you know how hard it is for me to do it too? But yeah, I can millitary press it... I should of said millitary press.

    Why doesn't it :/ It makes me shoulders feel like they're falling out and they hurt like crazy.
    I'll tell you what, my grip is very good, and I've got cullace or however it's spelt, but before that I had a genrally good grip, guess what? I used to do parkour quite a bit and grip was something I praticed on for it.

    Speaking of which, I wish I could do it still.
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    Originally Posted by Teamomga View Post

    I can't even bench 30kg 10 reps without getting tired
    I mean my triceps are strong
    No. if you only bench 30kgx10 you have VERY weak triceps

    Just train your upperbody and you will get there
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    Originally Posted by rasse226 View Post
    No. if you only bench 30kgx10 you have VERY weak triceps
    I found out the bar added on 20kg so that was 50kg.

    Can do tricep pulls of 50kg with one arm (I want to fit more onto the dumbell)
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    Originally Posted by joshuadelapenha View Post
    I wanna see vids of these squats to man.
    I'm going to the gym tomorrow, I'll try and steal the machine before anyone else does and get my friend to record, don't be suprised if it's crap quality or the light is annoying you, but it's a smiths machine, which I hate but sure I will show you, I think anyways. We'll see tomorrow
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    just keep working your upper body then. work it harder than your legs.
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