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    Fast Acting and Slow Acting Protein?

    I read another post on this site by "whitechocolate" and he mentions fast acting and slow acting proteins:

    THIS IS HIS POST
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    slow acting: milk, cottage cheese

    fast acting: egg, whey

    moderate actating: chicken, fish, meat in general

    slow acting is good before bed and fast acting is good PWO or first thing in the morning. hope this helps
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    So, a few questions:

    1. is PWO preworkout or postworkout?

    2. Where do almonds and peanuts fall in the fast/slow acting protein list?

    3. Whey is just skim milk, right?

    My workout will be full body mon/wed/fri, with 3 sets of 5 for fast twitch muscles Monday and Wednesday (to train strength) and 3 sets of 8 on Fridays (to promote hypertrophy).
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    IT DOES NOT MATTER.

    Stop wasting time focusing on nonsense.
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    Nutrition is the most important aspect of any type of workout. If you aren't answering my questions, please don't post.
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    Meal timing is irrelevant for body composition.

    Therefore, nutrient timing is irrelevant for body composition.

    Therefore, digestion rates are irrelevant for body composition.

    Therefore, you're wasting time focusing on nonsense..

    Stop wasting time focusing on nonsense.
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    Originally Posted by Drakec View Post
    Nutrition is the most important aspect of any type of workout. If you aren't answering my questions, please don't post.
    You fail to understand that the digestive rates of certain proteins is irrelevant in the context of daily nutrition and a mixed diet. Please stop over complicating things and focus on what actually matters.
    IIFYM - not even once.

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    Let me try to understand this then. Meal timing is irrelevant for body composition. Digestion rates of protein does not matter. Eating cottage cheese before bed to promote muscle re-cooperation/eggs in the morning is pointless.

    So, because meal timing does not matter, I don't have to eat a high-protein meal an hour before workout or hour after? then what the HELL is the point of drinking protein shakes before and after?
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    Originally Posted by Drakec View Post
    So, because meal timing does not matter, I don't have to eat a high-protein meal an hour before workout or hour after? then what the HELL is the point of drinking protein shakes before and after?
    You've already answered your own question: There is no point.

    All that matters is that you get your required protein, fat, and calories sometime between the time you wake up and go to sleep. The anabolic "window" is 24-hours long.

    Try to stick with whole foods instead of supplements to meet those requirements, since they usually provide more micronutrients.
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    Originally Posted by Drakec View Post
    then what the HELL is the point of drinking protein shakes before and after?
    To drive supplement company revenue, obviously.
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    Originally Posted by Drakec View Post
    Let me try to understand this then. Meal timing is irrelevant for body composition. Digestion rates of protein does not matter. Eating cottage cheese before bed to promote muscle re-cooperation/eggs in the morning is pointless.

    So, because meal timing does not matter, I don't have to eat a high-protein meal an hour before workout or hour after? then what the HELL is the point of drinking protein shakes before and after?
    There is no point, you do not need to do it as it serves no direct advantages.
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    inAfter alan aragon parrot crew attack. Meal Timing does matter, but for an average joe - not so much. There is a limited amount of test in your body to synthesize protein into muscle, so excess will be discarded.
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    Originally Posted by synthetic View Post
    inAfter alan aragon parrot crew attack. Meal Timing does matter, but for an average joe - not so much. There is a limited amount of test in your body to synthesize protein into muscle, so excess will be discarded.
    Actually... It's more likely that meal timing will matter more for the "average Joe" who is getting less than optimal doses of nutrients. Those who meet all necessary nutrient intakes with plenty to spare, are almost always running at optimal health and development levels at all times. Juggling meals will have little effect.
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    Originally Posted by synthetic View Post
    inAfter alan aragon parrot crew attack. Meal Timing does matter, but for an average joe - not so much. There is a limited amount of test in your body to synthesize protein into muscle, so excess will be discarded.
    lol
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    Originally Posted by synthetic View Post
    inAfter alan aragon parrot crew attack. Meal Timing does matter, but for an average joe - not so much. There is a limited amount of test in your body to synthesize protein into muscle, so excess will be discarded.
    Ugh.

    You're among the most well-meaning yet entirely misguided posters on this forum.
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    Originally Posted by HunterCML View Post
    lol
    ha ha, discarded.
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    Doesn't matter when I get it (nutrition), as long as I get it. I'm relieved to know that it's a lot less complicated than I made it out to be, but just know that I didn't make all this crap up. This is the result of countless bodybuilding magazines, websites, and...forums. Didn't appreciate the hostility, but at (the very) least I got some eventually solid answers.

    3x5 mon wed, 3x8 fridays. sets of 5 mondays and wednesdays for strength, sets of 8 fridays for hypertrophy. hope that's not bull**** either...
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    inAfter trans-fat alarmist and his synthesis of artificial trans-information
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    Originally Posted by Drakec View Post
    ...but just know that I didn't make all this crap up. This is the result of countless bodybuilding magazines, websites, and...forums.
    This exactly where the nutrition myths are propagated.
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    Originally Posted by Drakec View Post
    Doesn't matter when I get it (nutrition), as long as I get it. I'm relieved to know that it's a lot less complicated than I made it out to be, but just know that I didn't make all this crap up. This is the result of countless bodybuilding magazines, websites, and...forums. Didn't appreciate the hostility, but at (the very) least I got some eventually solid answers.

    3x5 mon wed, 3x8 fridays. sets of 5 mondays and wednesdays for strength, sets of 8 fridays for hypertrophy. hope that's not bull**** either...
    Reading the stickies would have given you the answers with 0 hostility
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    There wasn't any hostility.

    People need to stop taking everything so personally. Relax
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    for a quick, unrelated-to-post answer, my sets are okay, right? (prepares to be jumped again)
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    Originally Posted by synthetic View Post
    inAfter alan aragon parrot crew attack. Meal Timing does matter, but for an average joe - not so much. There is a limited amount of test in your body to synthesize protein into muscle, so excess will be discarded.

    wish you'd fuk off referring to people other than yourself as average joes.

    and dont say that you dont, because you have quite clearly stated in the past that you consider us average joes.
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    Originally Posted by synthetic View Post
    There is a limited amount of test in your body to synthesize protein into muscle, so excess will be discarded.
    Wut?
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