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    Obama or.. Michele Bachmann.. HMMM
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    Obama started rough because he tried so damn hard to get the 2 sides to meet in the middle. Tried so hard to be accepted. Tried so hard to do everything at once. but recently he has began to surround himself with the right people and seems to be making sense. I think when it is all said and done (in 2016 after his second term) people will look back and think he was a pretty solid president. Now I admit I am no political genius, but this is my take.
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    Originally Posted by rynofan View Post
    Obama started rough because he tried so damn hard to get the 2 sides to meet in the middle.
    Where do you guys come up with this rewritten history? There wasn't a damn concern for "meeting in the middle"... until mid-term election results meant that he had to have small Republican support to get his bills rammed through the Senate.
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    Originally Posted by BasedPrincess View Post
    I'd rather take my chances with what I know than vote for any of those crazy ass republican *******s
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    He sucks but who else is there? Who is the republican front runner, last time i looked it was Perry, someone who makes george bush look smart.
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    Originally Posted by rappitup View Post
    dude mitt romney wont be any better
    Yes he will. Not massively better, but he'll be better than Obama.. George w. Bush would be better than Obama at this point. Prove me wrong.jpeg
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    I'll give props to anyone who took the job right after Bush. Bush left the country in the same condition that most people would leave the public restroom on their last day at work at the 711.
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    obama is possibly the most articulate person i have heard speak
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    Originally Posted by FlyingDebris View Post
    yeah lets just kill those who might become a terrorist in a future
    haha you are blind as fuk holy shiit
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Where do you guys come up with this rewritten history? There wasn't a damn concern for "meeting in the middle"... until mid-term election results meant that he had to have small Republican support to get his bills rammed through the Senate.
    Again, I will say I am not the smartest guy when it comes to politics. I am just stating the way I observed it. It seemed to me that Obama knew he had a lack of experience and thought his best chance of survival was to bring the 2 sides together. It is an impossible task and his confidence (arrogance) probably led him to believe he could tackle it. Think about this way, if he could have the parties working together how easy woul dit be to get the people to follow him then.

    I am not saying he HAD to bring them together, I am saying he thought he needed to.
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    Originally Posted by FlyingDebris View Post
    America you have gone full retard, Obama has not kept a single promise, he was elected to end the war in Iraq, end guantanamo prison, end patriot act and create helthcare, he hasnt done any of this, he reveived nobel peace prize and 2 years later starts bombing Lybia. he is the most pro-war president, also USA ir 4T$ more in debt, he killed a US citizen withou trial for spreading ideas,wtf guys, he is the same as bush, am i the only one who thinks this way?
    Your people elected Bush twice ffs so anything is possible. In b4 a goat becomes president of USA.
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    this would be the first year i can vote, and im registered to vote... but in all honesty fuk it, every one of those phuckers who runs for president is a lying sack of **** who doesnt do anything to put this country in the right direction. And in all honesty, idk what changes we even need to get on the right track, we have our head so far up our own arse in this country its ridiculous
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    Originally Posted by FlyingDebris View Post
    America you have gone full retard, Obama has not kept a single promise, he was elected to end the war in Iraq, end guantanamo prison, end patriot act and create helthcare, he hasnt done any of this, he reveived nobel peace prize and 2 years later starts bombing Lybia. he is the most pro-war president, also USA ir 4T$ more in debt, he killed a US citizen withou trial for spreading ideas,wtf guys, he is the same as bush, am i the only one who thinks this way?
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    I think Obama is going to have a tough time winning. Recent polls said that more people would rather have GWB in office than Obama right now.
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    Originally Posted by magicmatt View Post
    haha you are blind as fuk holy shiit
    irony is strong in this one
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    I somewhat agree with OP.

    If you look just at Obama's 4 years, its easy to say "how can you vote for him again?", but compare him to the other candidates running for presidency. Kinda makes it a tough choice.

    Its the classic conundrum of Douche vs. Turd Sandwich

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    will vote for Obama again

    the only thing I am mad about is that he has been too centrist and soft

    I predicted in 2007 that he will win by 4-6%

    I predict now that he'll win, but a bit closer, more like 2-3%

    and then hopefully Hillary will get in and show some balls in 2016..
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    "Obama is like the kid who tries to please everyone to make friends in kindergarten. The more he tries to please them, the less they respect him."

    someone said something along these lines.
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    Originally Posted by TheDude1987 View Post
    Yes, you are what's wrong with America. You preach about how corrupt the politicians are, and then say you won't vote because of it. So really, all you're doing is making it easier for them.

    And then, if things get really ugly, you'll just abandon ship. You're a real patriot, aren't you?
    Go read what I said. The whole reason I am NOT VOTING IS BECAUSE VOTES DON'T MATTER.

    What part of that don't you understand? Go look at the electoral college in more detail, also take a look at gerrymandering while you are researching.

    Votes are more a feel-good thing for citizens then anything, particularly ever since the two party system came around. Go look at the words our fore fathers had about the two party system. You people are so phucking caught up in blaming the other party, that nothing ever gets done.
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    **** all you guys, I'm voting for Schwarzenegger.
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    Originally Posted by RedandWhite View Post
    Go read what I said. The whole reason I am NOT VOTING IS BECAUSE VOTES DON'T MATTER.

    What part of that don't you understand? Go look at the electoral college in more detail, also take a look at gerrymandering while you are researching.

    Votes are more a feel-good thing for citizens then anything, particularly ever since the two party system came around. Go look at the words our fore fathers had about the two party system. You people are so phucking caught up in blaming the other party, that nothing ever gets done.
    To an extent I see your point and I used to think the same thing, but understand we vote for the people that cast the electoral votes as well. I would not think that someone would go against the popular vote of their region and risk being voted out. With that being said the presidential vote should be the popular vote, although I am sure there are flaws in that as well.
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    Originally Posted by FlyingDebris View Post
    America you have gone full retard, Obama has not kept a single promise, he was elected to end the war in Iraq, end guantanamo prison, end patriot act and create helthcare, he hasnt done any of this, he reveived nobel peace prize and 2 years later starts bombing Lybia. he is the most pro-war president, also USA ir 4T$ more in debt, he killed a US citizen withou trial for spreading ideas,wtf guys, he is the same as bush, am i the only one who thinks this way?
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    Originally Posted by FlyingDebris View Post
    America you have gone full retard, Obama has not kept a single promise, he was elected to end the war in Iraq, end guantanamo prison, end patriot act and create helthcare, he hasnt done any of this, he reveived nobel peace prize and 2 years later starts bombing Lybia. he is the most pro-war president, also USA ir 4T$ more in debt, he killed a US citizen withou trial for spreading ideas,wtf guys, he is the same as bush, am i the only one who thinks this way?
    I agree OP, America is a joke, if he gets re-elected, 2012 will happen and we will all die (srs)
    Obama is the biggest disgrace joke of a president ever.
    4T$ in debt, pathetic...

    Not really worried anyways, he won't get re-elected.
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    Originally Posted by RedandWhite View Post
    He didn't kill osama

    and his health care reform is a joke. All it does is put more money in the government pockets.

    Also, lol @ the guy who said Obama is good at debates. He is great at giving speeches, but debates? No. He never makes direct points and his rebuttals to everything always end with, "We have to come together, blah, blah, blah". Then he goes back to Washington and is more partisan than most of his fellow party members.



    I'm not saying one politician is better than another. It just always astounds me how people choose to view the politician from their party.

    I personally probably will not even vote in 2012. Votes are meaningless anyways. Those idiots who support Ron Paul choose to ignore he has no chance of winning with the current electoral college system and gerrymandering. The government has tricked people into "expressing themselves" with votes, when at the end of the day your vote is meaningless. The districts are designed to give the state's vote to the same party that controls your state's government. The electoral representatives also have no obligation to vote the same way their district does; other than a social obligation, but we see how much politician's care about those.
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    atleast be old enough to have voted in an election, before you start stating you arent voting.
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    Originally Posted by Clives_Bicep View Post
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    atleast be old enough to have voted in an election, before you start stating you arent voting.
    I've already skipped out on my first midterm, and I liked the part where you brought up an actual point or rebuttal.
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    today i saw a debate on reddit on 2012 elections and someone who said 'ron paul 2012'' was downvoted (negged) into oblivion and someone who supported Obama was upvoted by most, ffs USA wake up, you deserve all this BS if you pick Obama over Ron Paul or Gary Johnson, everyone else plays for the same team. its like wrestling where they pretend to fight and when the elections are over they just come together and laugh at us
    reddit is full of Obama cawk sucking *******s, i cant stand their pollitican section (any ents on here?)
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    All politicians are completely full of shiit and I don't like any of them. And saying that a certain politician never answers questions directly? Yeah that's what politicians do. Get used to it.
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    Originally Posted by Family_Guy View Post
    I'll give props to anyone who took the job right after Bush. Bush left the country in the same condition that most people would leave the public restroom on their last day at work at the 711.
    So your talking about the economy? So please if you will clarify.

    But note;

    I don't agree with how he dealt with fannie mae and freddie mac, the stimulus packages (delaying the inevitable), but imo he put a band-aid on a gunshot wound but he wasn't responsible for the housing blowup. And though he gets blamed for the monetary policy of the fed's decisions under Greenspan (much like obama w/bernanke), the fed is independent of the pres.
    [see http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123215327787492291.html ]

    But if your talking about the wars than it's already been said, he's spent as much if not more
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    I'm always going to vote for the more moderate candidate. I would vote moderate republican as a rule, but republicans have gone full retard with all of this pushing of super conservative insane candidates.
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    Originally Posted by Archangel_Lost View Post
    I'm always going to vote for the more moderate candidate. I would vote moderate republican as a rule, but republicans have gone full retard with all of this pushing of super conservative insane candidates.
    they are not even conservative, they are neocons, a conservative wouldnt support no romney care or anything like that
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