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    Smile Epistane SIDE EFFECTS, Help with pct

    Done a course of pharma labs epistane over a month ago, since i have sufferd shutdown, didnt runa pct straight after ( stupid i know) but doc advised to stay of everything to give time to recovery natrually, but then i decided to start tribulus then stop then adrabolix then stop, then started up andrabolix again and still on it now, i know i messed up this cycle which is why i am getting nasty side effects like decreased libido , no proepr boners! no energy, no driver to do a proper work out, any tips or any supplements that could helpp restore me and get me out of shutdown!?!?!?!?!?!

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    Curious, no proper boner means you have an unproper boner, did it have bad manners or something? I would think a boner is a boner, you either get it or you dont...
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    I ran 5 weeks havoc, up to 50mg a day last 2 weeks.....ran nolva 20mg a day and daa (3.5g) a day and I'm back to normal and kept all the strength

    Stayed on cycle assist and liv52 during havoc and thru pct
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    Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post
    did boner have bad manners or something?
    you still mad that mine slapped you across the forward when it spasmed?

    rude dick was just rude
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    run a proper PCT to get back to normal. Of course, it has only been a little over a month since you have been off epistane. some people bounce back within 2 weeks, some people are 12 weeks. either way, just run a proper PCT for 4 weeks.
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    Originally Posted by tomclfc View Post
    Epistane SIDE EFFECTS, Help with pct
    three things:

    #1 - yes, you messed up ur cycle due to poor preparation and knowledge.

    #2 - you are 20, and had you done #1 prep correctly you may have reconsidered use to begin with.

    #3 - steroid/PH talk is prohibited on this site.


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    Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post
    Curious, no proper boner means you have an unproper boner, did it have bad manners or something? I would think a boner is a boner, you either get it or you dont...
    Not as hard not as much Libido, Any supplements/
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    Originally Posted by justfive View Post
    screwed fool is screwed
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    Originally Posted by mikaveli06 View Post
    I ran 5 weeks havoc, up to 50mg a day last 2 weeks.....ran nolva 20mg a day and daa (3.5g) a day and I'm back to normal and kept all the strength

    Stayed on cycle assist and liv52 during havoc and thru pct
    Appricate a sensible answer, cheers man, what side effects did you have???
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    Originally Posted by E90335i View Post
    run a proper PCT to get back to normal. Of course, it has only been a little over a month since you have been off epistane. some people bounce back within 2 weeks, some people are 12 weeks. either way, just run a proper PCT for 4 weeks.
    thanks man, you think i will get back to normal? only done it twice in the last 6/7 months, thats only thing i cycled, what would you recoomend for pct? appricte your answer
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    Originally Posted by tomclfc View Post
    doc advised to stay of everything... but then i decided to start tribulus then stop then adrabolix then stop, then started up andrabolix again and still on it now
    you deserve to experience this.
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    Its not for us to say, only a Doctor could tell you that. Not trying to scare you but you may have ruined your natural Test production, on the other hand, after running a proper PCT you may regain your natural production.

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    Originally Posted by tomclfc View Post
    ????????
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    you deserve to experience this.
    ^^^ this. OP, you did this to yourself as a result of being irresponsible and immature. You are a fool who is now trying to make things right by a fairly pathetic means of simply asking "what supps?"

    I dont get a kick out of people suffering or experiencing bad things, but on the other hand no one should tolerate and pity such stupidity.
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    Originally Posted by justfive View Post
    ^^^ this. OP, you did this to yourself as a result of being irresponsible and immature. You are a fool who is now trying to make things right by a fairly pathetic means of simply asking "what supps?"

    I dont get a kick out of people suffering or experiencing bad things, but on the other hand no one should tolerate and pity such stupidity.
    dude.
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    i'm rubbing off on you
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    Wait, rhadam said epi has little to no side effects
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    Originally Posted by Diesel0022 View Post
    Its not for us to say, only a Doctor could tell you that. Not trying to scare you but you may have ruined your natural Test production, on the other hand, after running a proper PCT you may regain your natural production.

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    Run a PCT, then get bloods. If you are not prepared for the risk of being permanenly shut down, do not run PH.
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    Originally Posted by Cyisoh View Post
    Wait, rhadam said epi has little to no side effects
    Its not a side effect, its what happens. Your pumping test into your system so your natural production stops. Once your done with your cycle you need to revamp your bodies natural test producing abilities by using a proper SERM(PCT).
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    Originally Posted by Cyisoh View Post
    Wait, rhadam said epi has little to no side effects
    theres always a chance tho.....it is less harsh than say m-drol or some others, and risk of gyno from epi is pretty slim, but it is methylated so it will have effect on lipids and such.....i enjoyed it, but did get shut down around week 3, but with nolva and daa im back to normal......only other sides i had were a little lethargic when i came off (to be expected for sure) and some pretty serious back pumps in weeks 4 and 5, even with taurine. I knew all of this going into it though and was prepared for pct after, and ran liver supps prior and during, all the way thru pct, and i actually just took last dose of nolva 2 days ago, and am on daa for another 4 weeks....I was happy with it, made strength gains, cut some body fat, and have kept strength after so i will do again in future, but am gonna cut some more bf off and wait till im down to about 240-250 to run again

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    Originally Posted by mikaveli06 View Post
    risk of gyno from epi is pretty slim
    and ironically, anecdotal use reports some use this to eliminate small signs of gymo.


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