Looking for a good supplement stack for mass

**Mickdizzle** · 02-07-2007, 11:41 PM

Currently I am taking NO2, CE2, AST Multi32x, and ON Whey. I really like the NO2 and CE2 but they are too expensive. I am really interested in animal pump. I have heard a lot of good things about universals products.(Decent prices as well) Is there anything that I can take with AP? It has creatine and NO right? So I don't need any other creatine? I am looking for a good stack to give me some good pumps and energy. I have Plateaued and I have been here for a while so I am gonna change my supps up and change up the routine a bit. Any suggestions?

**BNR** · 02-08-2007, 12:17 AM

Jungle Warfare, all the reviews seem to be great

**40-Yard Dash_2** · 02-08-2007, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by Mickdizzle

Currently I am taking NO2, CE2, AST Multi32x, and ON Whey. I really like the NO2 and CE2 but they are too expensive. I am really interested in animal pump. I have heard a lot of good things about universals products.(Decent prices as well) Is there anything that I can take with AP? It has creatine and NO right? So I don't need any other creatine? I am looking for a good stack to give me some good pumps and energy. I have Plateaued and I have been here for a while so I am gonna change my supps up and change up the routine a bit. Any suggestions?

**Xasthur** · 02-08-2007, 07:36 AM

The ultimate mass cycle is where my best gains have come from. It's kind of expensive though, you need 4 bottles of Hyperdrol, 3 Mass FX and 2 Retain. If you can't afford all of that, you can leave out the Retain, or run it for 8 weeks instead of 12.

**MaddenMuscle** · 02-08-2007, 07:45 AM

The **** Stack is the bomb Diggity. If I were you I'd run JW for 8 weeks instead of 4 though.

**mike-v-tap** · 02-08-2007, 07:46 AM

X, what were your gains like from this stack?

**pu12en12g** · 02-08-2007, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by Mickdizzle

Currently I am taking NO2, CE2, AST Multi32x, and ON Whey. I really like the NO2 and CE2 but they are too expensive. I am really interested in animal pump. I have heard a lot of good things about universals products.(Decent prices as well) Is there anything that I can take with AP? It has creatine and NO right? So I don't need any other creatine? I am looking for a good stack to give me some good pumps and energy. I have Plateaued and I have been here for a while so I am gonna change my supps up and change up the routine a bit. Any suggestions?

Nothing can really compare to the pro-anabolics like Jungle WARFARE or HyperDROL others have mentioned above.... but there is a stack that I think is one of the best available for the natural athlete:

Green MAG + Purple WRAATH + GlycerGROW

HOWEVER, for best results I would actually wait until you get back from Iraq to start these supplements. For now, maybe supplement with a quality protein powder like Optimum Nutrition, Dymatize, or ErgoPharm / Giant (Isolate).

**Xasthur** · 02-08-2007, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by mike-v-tap

X, what were your gains like from this stack?

I'm still in the middle of it, as of now I've gone up around 10 lbs (I've been getting in around 3000-3500 clean calories a day with it) and all lifts have gone up, deadlift went up by around 40, and the rest were between 10-20. I still have a little over 7 weeks to go, so if these gains keep up I'll be way above what I originally thought this stack would take me to.

**butchaman** · 02-08-2007, 08:14 AM

[QUOTE=Mickdizzle;19654531]Currently I am taking NO2, CE2, AST Multi32x, and ON Whey.

just a question, but have u tried taking ur protein shakes at multiple times of the day. id try taking in a shake before,during and about 45 min after ur workout to see if that makes any difference. after that maybe try an ecdy supplement like ebol, then maybe try something like x factor and activate or the various other herbals like junglewarfare,mass fx and the like. just ma .02

**jadedandslated** · 02-08-2007, 08:37 AM

To answer your question you don't need to take another creatine or No product with the Animal Pump. You are right Universal makes good products and you should be very happy with the Animal Pump.

**tek88** · 02-08-2007, 08:45 AM

if you're plateauing (sp? ha) change up your routine for sure.
i havent heard many bad things about JW at all. try it out.
but i would get on JW first over AP, thats just me.

**Viperspit** · 02-08-2007, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by BNR

Jungle Warfare, all the reviews seem to be great

Originally Posted by MaddenMuscle

The **** Stack is the bomb Diggity. If I were you I'd run JW for 8 weeks instead of 4 though.

Originally Posted by pu12en12g

Nothing can really compare to the pro-anabolics like Jungle WARFARE or HyperDROL

Originally Posted by tek88

i havent heard many bad things about JW at all. try it out.
but i would get on JW first over AP, thats just me.

Wow, thanks for the support guys, it's nice to hear you're happy with our product or have at least been pleased with what you've read in logs from others.

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