Whats the best way to use this supplements...

[mohawas23]

Hi Everyone,
hope someone can help me with this.

First i do have:

1 -Optimum - Gold Standard 100% Whey
2- Optimum - Opti-Men
3- USPlabs - Jack3d
4- NOW - Ultra Omega-3
5- Optimum - Micronized Creatine Powder

And soon I'll have:

6- Optimum - BCAA 1000 Caps
7- Optimum - Gold Standard 100% Casein
8- Optimum - Glutamine
9- Optimum - ZMA


Now i do Workout 4-5 days a week for 60-90 Minutes
I'm 28 Years, 74KG(163Lbs), 178Cm, I think Fat 31%
I want to lose fat and get body

My Nutrition is
At Around 8:30 Breakfast(In Work) like 100G -150G Tuna with 2 Whites Hard Boiled Eggs, 2 slices of raw red tomato.
At around 13:30 Lunch(At work) i have 100G - 150G Of fish and also 100G - 150G of Chicken with some salad
At Around 16:30 (At work)60-90Minutes before Workout - 1 Scoop whey shake with milk
At around 19:30 Post-Workout, Another 1 Scoop whey shake with milk with a banana
Dinner at 21:00 Depends of what wife cooks, if the dinner is a good source of protein i just have a fruit after, if it is not rich of proteins i eat a can of tuna(water or oil) also a fruit
And sleep at 24:00

How should i use the Supplements? or what is needed from them? and if my Nutrition need any change?


Thanks for the help in advance

[kidofthekids]

all solid supps. if you picked all that stuff out yourself i'm confused how you don't know how to use it. what exactly are you unsure about? i'm not doing the macro math btw so look to the nutrition section for that

[mohawas23]

all solid supps. if you picked all that stuff out yourself i'm confused how you don't know how to use it. what exactly are you unsure about? i'm not doing the macro math btw so look to the nutrition section for that

I've read a lot before purchased, and also how to use it, but wanna make sure from some people with more experience, and be sure all is OK before making mistakes

Thanks

[mtpaquette]

Hi Everyone,
hope someone can help me with this.

First i do have:

1 -Optimum - Gold Standard 100% Whey
2- Optimum - Opti-Men
3- USPlabs - Jack3d
4- NOW - Ultra Omega-3
5- Optimum - Micronized Creatine Powder

And soon I'll have:

6- Optimum - BCAA 1000 Caps
7- Optimum - Gold Standard 100% Casein
8- Optimum - Glutamine
9- Optimum - ZMA

Do not take any of that (bolded).. it's a waste of money. The only thing I would suggest from that is BCAA's, and I would suggest going w/ something like Xtend by Scivation. Once you are out of the Optimen I would suggest looking into Orange Triad or Anavite also.

[bodybuildingbrady]

There good products, I just think maybe you should not use the creatine. The creatine is going to make you hold water. Plus your useing two products with creatine. Look in to how many calories your taking in.

[mtpaquette]

There good products, I just think maybe you should not use the creatine. The creatine is going to make you hold water. Plus your useing two products with creatine. Look in to how many calories your taking in.

Disregard the last post......

Ughh.. I'm feeling lazy and didn't want to do this..

Gold standard is a decent protein, but there are much better options out there.
Opti-Men isn't a great high quality vitamin.. Orange Triad, Orthocore, Anavite and a few others are much better
Jack3d... I hate Jack3d. That's all I have to say about that, but as I said if it works for you go for it.
Ultra Omega-3 decent fish oil I believe..? Oximega by Controlled Labs is another solid fish oil.
Micronized Creatine Powder.. decent enough. Creatine should be a staple supp.

BCAA 1000 Caps.. If you want BCAA's I would suggest a liquid BCAA you can never go wrong with Extend
Gold Standard 100% Casein.. If you want casein then purchase a blend like Myofusion or Trutein instead of casein and whey. They are both much better proteins, but at the end of the day protein is protein.
Glutamine.. this is pointless. Do not waste your money. Glutamine is an amino acid and you are already taking in aminos in your protein shake, because protein is composed of amino acids. If you still want glutamine then eat cottage cheese at night, because it is a great source of glutamine and also casein so that eliminates both of those.
ZMA.. isn't really going to do a lot for you probably. At least not what you are paying for them. This also tends to give people night horrors. If you are eating beef and taking a good multi you are taking in plenty of zinc already, so don't worry about it.

[mohawas23]

Thanks for the answers guys,

I can understand that everyone has his opinion, and now for next time im gonna purchease something i'll have your recommendations in mind, thanks for that.

Just to be clear i didnt start taking this things yet, i'm going to start, I'm just using Whey at the moment.

So if i get it clear

On morning i take the Multivitamins and the Fish oils
Pre-Workout Creatine or Jack3d
Post-Work, Whey protein

When is the best time to take the BCAA?
and the Casein, ZMA and Glutamine is not needed?


Thanks

[mohawas23]

Bump

[mohawas23]

Anyone has more recommendations? Or something to add? the more the better :-)

Thanks

[heavyliftset]

what did you end up buying? you still have questions on how to use or what to buy?

[mtpaquette]

You can take the bcaa's whenever. Intra work out, pre work out, post work out.. I even just mix mine up in a jug and sip it throughout the day. Don't waste your money on casein, zma's or glutamine. Just buy a good protein like Myofusion, Trutein or etc. Take 3-5g of creatine every day. No need to load or cycle.

[Backhand]

Dont think you posted what time you get up or if you have a meal/shake before your breakfast so if you did ignore this.
Drink some protein when you wake up with whatever supps you take in the am.

I personally have used and enjoyed Casein but found cottage cheese to be just as effective and much cheaper. Cottage cheese also didnt make me sick when i ate it pre-workout where as the casein did, but thats my own fault.

Never used ZMA so cant say much, but i plan on trying it myself. Lots of people say good things and that its useful, and a few say its pointless. I plan on investigating myself next time i buy supps.

Strongly recommend OT over opti-men.

Felt that glutamine was pretty useless.

And as far as dosing and timing goes, just follow the instructions on the packages.

[mtpaquette]

Dont think you posted what time you get up or if you have a meal/shake before your breakfast so if you did ignore this.
Drink some protein when you wake up with whatever supps you take in the am.

I personally have used and enjoyed Casein but found cottage cheese to be just as effective and much cheaper. Cottage cheese also didnt make me sick when i ate it pre-workout where as the casein did, but thats my own fault.

Never used ZMA so cant say much, but i plan on trying it myself. Lots of people say good things and that its useful, and a few say its pointless. I plan on investigating myself next time i buy supps.

Strongly recommend OT over opti-men.

Felt that glutamine was pretty useless.

And as far as dosing and timing goes, just follow the instructions on the packages.

Why were you eating cottage cheese pre work out?

[Backhand]

Why were you eating cottage cheese pre work out?

Cause im dumb, but what i really meant was earlier in the day before my workout, not like 30-60 mins before. But either way I try to avoid slower digesting protein before my workout.

[mohawas23]

what did you end up buying? you still have questions on how to use or what to buy?

I already do have all the things I posted. Some staff are gifts. just if im using it right and if my diet is ok.

[mohawas23]

You can take the bcaa's whenever. Intra work out, pre work out, post work out.. I even just mix mine up in a jug and sip it throughout the day. Don't waste your money on casein, zma's or glutamine. Just buy a good protein like Myofusion, Trutein or etc. Take 3-5g of creatine every day. No need to load or cycle.

Take creatine even if I'm taking jack3d?

Thanks for the answer

[mohawas23]

Thanks for all the answers.

I do have 1 more question: there is any from the things that I have ( all is in the first post ) that I shouldn't take together or a minimum time between them or anything?

[tacticalreload]

Thanks for all the answers.

I do have 1 more question: there is any from the things that I have ( all is in the first post ) that I shouldn't take together or a minimum time between them or anything?

No, it doesn't matter.

[mohawas23]

No, it doesn't matter.

Thanks

[TigerStealth]

jack3d is a pre workout supplemnet - take 15 mins before training

whey can be taken as a protein source with any meal or pre and pos workout

take 5g creatine post workout w/ the opti-men

omega 3s take throughout the day

zma take before bed

glutamine take post wo

[mohawas23]

jack3d is a pre workout supplemnet - take 15 mins before training

whey can be taken as a protein source with any meal or pre and pos workout

take 5g creatine post workout w/ the opti-men

omega 3s take throughout the day

zma take before bed

glutamine take post wo

thanks tiger so you recommend take them all this way?

[mohawas23]

If I'm taking jack3d pre work should I still take creatine post with the protein shake? Or is too much? Some people told me yeah and some said no, do I would like more options please