Most people now days swear by HITT to max out more fat burning, Than regular LI. From what i read from the forums.
here is what i think,
While on a low carb calorie deficiency diet, Where your glycogen levels are almost depleted, Where you got just enough Glycogen to take you through your heavy weights session,
Whats the point doing HIIT?
As HITT beinga high intesity above 80% of your max, which=glycogen as fuel, That will just waste hard earnd muscle im i wrong?
I think LI is still the most muscle friendly way of doing it,
Just wanna know what you lot think?........cus im getting mixt opinions on this big time,
What im thinking here is that,
HITT is not apropriate on a low carb diet if you wanna maintain as much muscle as you can.
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10-02-2011, 07:01 PM #1
LI cardio vs HITT on a low carb diet
I was Born with Beast Mode ON
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10-02-2011, 07:09 PM #2
Not sure about how it affects muscle, but HIIT affects your energy drastically. I used to be lifeless for 2 days due to doing HIIT and (very) low-carb.
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10-02-2011, 07:14 PM #3
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10-02-2011, 08:07 PM #4
i love doing both, But i rather do the one thats most affective towards burning the flab.....and keeping the muscle, I feel very anabolic after the lLI, But if i do HITT i feel very catabolic due to the lowe carbs.....and when i lift the next day, Dont feel that Anabolic state as much as when doing LI.
So LI cardio it is than,I was Born with Beast Mode ON
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10-03-2011, 12:25 PM #5
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10-03-2011, 02:36 PM #6
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10-03-2011, 02:58 PM #7
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10-03-2011, 03:16 PM #8
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10-03-2011, 03:33 PM #9
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10-03-2011, 03:37 PM #10
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10-03-2011, 03:57 PM #11
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10-03-2011, 04:29 PM #12
do whatever u prefer, or if u like both u can use both. don't over think it and think one or the other has some magical advantage as far as fat burning.
i usually stick to low or medium intensity cardio just cuz it is easier to be consistnat w/ it. to hard to pump myself up to do true HIIT sessions.
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10-03-2011, 07:19 PM #13
explain why HITT? Cus my glycogen levels are depleted by the time im doing my cardio which is in the evening. Wouldnt it burn muscle? as HIIT is most anaerobic.....and anaerobic training uses glycogen as fuel mainly......dont it?
Please note my main goal is to maintain max muscle size, I strongly belive that HIIT burns muscle....in this case.I was Born with Beast Mode ON
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10-03-2011, 07:21 PM #14
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10-03-2011, 08:07 PM #15
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10-03-2011, 08:13 PM #16
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10-04-2011, 12:13 AM #17
HIIT is more effective for fat loss because it increases your resting metabolic rate (ie, you burn more calories sitting on the couch after doing HIIT when c/w low intensity cardio). Therefore, 15-20 mins of HIIT can prove more effective than 45-60mins 1 hour of low intensity cardio. I know what I would choose.
But then again, unless you're eating good carbs before and after HIIT, you risk much more muscle loss due to glyc stores. Thus, if you insist on doing a low carb diet and if you insist on consuming little or no carbs pre and post workout, I wouldn't recommended HIIT because even though will loss fat, you will also lose considerable muscle.
Hence, low intensity cardio would be preferred on a low carb diet.
But then again, I wouldn't recommend that. Rather, I say swap fats for carbs, have your carbs pre and post HIIT, that way you will be maximizing fat loss and minimizing muscle loss.
IE, i would do LI cardio if I was on low carb, but I probably wouldn't find myself on low carb if I was doing cardio, because when I do cardio I do HIIT
...each to their own
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10-04-2011, 03:27 AM #18
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10-04-2011, 11:44 AM #19
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10-04-2011, 12:12 PM #20
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10-04-2011, 12:43 PM #21
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10-04-2011, 12:52 PM #22
I'm confused. I thought the body burned FFA once glycogen was depleted and you're saying it burns muscle instead?
Sprint-induced AMPk activation triggers a lot of fat-burning; sprint-induced AMPk activation in glycogen depleted or semi glycogen depleted states triggers significantly more.In fact, it has been conclusively demonstrated that systemic fat oxidation increases both at rest and during aerobic exercise when muscle glycogen stores (termed glucosyl units or GUs) dip below roughly 70 mmol/kg
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10-04-2011, 02:30 PM #23
For the past few weeks, I've been doing low carb (100g or less) 5 days a week, a HIIT session and a couple of Mid Intensity Cardio sessions after lifting.
If you're gonna do HIIT, just center the bulk of your carbs for that day around the HIIT session and drink BCAAs during.
..also a couple of G2 Gatorades and a Casein Shake during the day will help as well. I would only suggest 1 to 2 max HIIT sessions a week on low carb however. Actually 1 is enough for me at this point, the other sessions are 20 minute MISS.
Here's a typical day (if I were to do HIIT)
1/2 Detour Oat Bar (31.5g C, 15g P, 3.5 F)
HIIT on stationary bike or Xtrainer (Scivation BCAAs and Water during)
1/2 Detour Oat Bar (31.5g C, 15g P, 3.5 F)
Gatorade G2 Low Cal (12g C)
2 eggs, 2 caspers hot dogs, .5oz cheese (0g C 41g P, 33g F)
Banana Muscle Milk Shake (9g C, 25g P, 9g F)
9oz top sirloin steak w/ mushrooms (10g P), and brocolli (5g C, 94g P, 20g F) -likely eat 3/4 early and the rest later on in the day.
1 oz almonds (6g C, 6g P, 14g F)
--> may or may not throw in another casein shake here before bed.
97g C, 196g P, 83g F = 1919 KCalLast edited by k9pit; 10-04-2011 at 02:35 PM.
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10-04-2011, 03:27 PM #24
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10-04-2011, 06:35 PM #25
What I believe HIIT stands for is high intensity interval training. Although there are a number of ways to perform a HIIT session, I think it's implied in this post that HIIT refers to sprinting for a small period of time, then walking/jogging at low intensity, then repeating a number of times (I usually perfer 6).
Although HIIT can mean other things, such as lifting weights without resting or minimal rest, since this type of tranining is also interval and high intensity.
Good carbs for HIIT before and after would include oats and other wholegrain carbs (pasta, rice etc), maybe a banana, sweet potatoes, chickpeas, etc...good idea to mix with a protein source too (protein powder would do, but lean meat would be even better)
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10-04-2011, 06:39 PM #26
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10-05-2011, 06:12 AM #27
Here is what i really think, Why take more carbs in just so i can punish my self doing HIIT, When i can stay with a low carb and do LI and save my hard earned muscle, Cus like most of you say it is not that much diffrence between them, Apart from the fact that HIIT burns lots more calories and it does so even after you done it for many hours, As it is the equivelen to a weights session,
Well i dont have a problem with the calories that im taking in....cus im in a deficiency anyway, I only need to burn the fat, At min muscle mass wastage.
Here is the thing i train weights 4 times a week and doing HITT say 2 times that means im doing weights 6 times a week, Also when do my freaking legs rest?
Now thats overtraining right there........I dont juice like a mother funky.....I train natural and as we all know it takes much longer to recover,
Overtraining is just as bad as no training or freaking worse.I was Born with Beast Mode ON
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10-05-2011, 06:31 AM #28
^^^that is pretty much my thinking. for me, there is no way i'm going to be able to pump myself up to lift 4 times a week and do HIIT 2-3 times a week.
plus i think the whole after burn of hiit isn't a huge factor. so doing LISS 5-7 times a week for 30 mins to an hour is going to net me more calories burned than doing 10 mins of HIIT 2-3 times a week.
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10-05-2011, 06:38 AM #29
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10-05-2011, 06:40 AM #30
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