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    Originally Posted by th3pwn3r View Post
    Well, I do agree about the mana bars, I'm not sure why they aren't in the game. Also, the option to concede would be nice as long as you can't do it too early. The thing you're forgetting is that it's a beta. Beta's aren't made to be the funnest games possible, they're made and then they make tweaks to it before a final version which I'm sure will have all these little things. And come on, you know that running into a Luna is just silly, I think you're probably one of those players who AFK farms 20 minutes with a support hero and doesn't buy a single ward
    you could not be more wrong. i been pub stomping dota before it was even allstars.

    its a beta for a game, but the game is supposed to be a full and complete port. its an upgrade to the engine.
    the idea is to remake dota1. and icefrog has said this multiple times himself.

    no mana bars arnt a good idea l2p dota
    and if a conceit option was put into the game it would probably ruin most long games tbh. dota 1 already had issues with abandoners, people will just roll over asap.

    and you kinda just proved my attitudes towards hon/lol players

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    There are definitely cons and pros with a concede option, I hate playing 3v5 and sometimes the winning team don't seem to want to finish a game, and just try to farm good kd.
    Ive played tons of moba games were the other team doesn't seem to know how to end a game, and the games goes on an extra 30 minute of pure raping.
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    Originally Posted by Archheretic View Post
    There are definitely cons and pros with a concede option, I hate playing 3v5 and sometimes the winning team don't seem to want to finish a game, and just try to farm good kd.
    Ive played tons of moba games were the other team doesn't seem to know how to end a game, and the games goes on an extra 30 minute of pure raping.
    The problem in DotA is amplified because farm farm rice rice rice rice rice. I don't see any reason not to have a concede option, I think HoN did it well. You could just leave in DotA1 because of the nature of the game and no stats (besides banlists) but this time stats are tracked so it makes even more sense.

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    Am I the only one who thinks DOTA2 sucks? The UI is huge and not being able to zoom out blows. I find myself having to click on the minimap to move backwards so that I can keep an eye on my opponents. Its extremely infuriating how frustrating it is to click on the map, then the minimap, then the map, then the minimap. Makes no sense to me. That coupled with the animation lag is just too much for me.

    Also tanking in LoL > initiator in DOTA2. Being the initiator all you do is initiate and then stand around for 15 seconds while your skills come back off cooldown. Its so boring. At least as a tank in LoL you provide fight long disruption. Not just initiating and then standing around as deadweight.

    No hate, I was looking forward to this with it having so much hype. Just left disappointed by how elitist the community is about dumb mechanics in the game(deny lol).
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    Originally Posted by BanWagon View Post
    Am I the only one who thinks DOTA2 sucks? The UI is huge and not being able to zoom out blows. I find myself having to click on the minimap to move backwards so that I can keep an eye on my opponents. Its extremely infuriating how frustrating it is to click on the map, then the minimap, then the map, then the minimap. Makes no sense to me. That coupled with the animation lag is just too much for me.

    Also tanking in LoL > initiator in DOTA2. Being the initiator all you do is initiate and then stand around for 15 seconds while your skills come back off cooldown. Its so boring. At least as a tank in LoL you provide fight long disruption. Not just initiating and then standing around as deadweight.

    No hate, I was looking forward to this with it having so much hype. Just left disappointed by how elitist the community is about dumb mechanics in the game(deny lol).
    did you get picked for the beta too?

    wtfff i should have lied on the goddamn application, and said i only play lol/hon.

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    Originally Posted by BanWagon View Post
    No hate, I was looking forward to this with it having so much hype. Just left disappointed by how elitist the community is about dumb mechanics in the game(deny lol).
    Wtf denying is not dumb at all, it just increases the skill cap, I like dota, LoL and HoN, but there is no denying that LoL is the game with lowest skill cap.
    I think i prefer the concede option in LoL over the concede option in HoN, in HoN there is often one stealth hero on the team that can still get kills on the enemies support heroes and try to keep the game going so they can farm kd. While in LoL you can concede with only 4 players if the game has gone long enough.
    Hmm when I think about I might actually prefer the 5 player concede as I'm usually the one player in the team that feels that our team gives up too easily.
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    Game is kinda **** atm due to the amount of baddies.. feels like 1500 MMR play.

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    Originally Posted by Keki View Post
    Game is kinda **** atm due to the amount of baddies.. feels like 1500 MMR play.
    continuously makes me wonder on what basis they're sending invites out
    I slow down so I can gather the power,
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    Originally Posted by Keki View Post
    Game is kinda **** atm due to the amount of baddies.. feels like 1500 MMR play.
    1500? That's generous. 1500 pubs I can carry going 11+-0, dota pubs I cannot.

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    Originally Posted by SCAR-H View Post
    Just got an invite today!

    I'm using Windrunner and learning how to play her. I've been stuck with bads all day, otherwise I would be doing better.
    its all about sven and troll warlord and mortred and dirge
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    this sucks, signed up for it right from the start and was extremely active in regular dota both in pubs and in the community and I haven't got a key yet. waiting months and months/10
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    Originally Posted by FinalCountdown View Post
    this sucks, signed up for it right from the start and was extremely active in regular dota both in pubs and in the community and I haven't got a key yet. waiting months and months/10
    I know that feels..

    Oh well im playing dota atm to pass the time.

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    Originally Posted by AlmightyJad View Post
    Played a little LoL (maybe like 10 hours total)

    Got into the beta a week ago and this is one of the most fun games I've ever played. Been playing Huskar.
    huskar + heavy nuke team = gg

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    Originally Posted by ShangTsung View Post
    Apparently Dota 2 has been sitting in my Steamlist for 2 days, but I hadn't noticed.

    Pretty sure selection is random. I only play LOL, never played DOTA because normal WC3 was my life for 6 years.
    Maybe they passed out invitations to people in CA, because I got mine on the same day.
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    It's definitely random. ADD EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! srsly.

    and stop pming me for keys i dont have any brahs

    add on steam pls...

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    I got it yesterday as part of the steam holiday gift pile thing. I was pretty stoked. I'm enjoying it so far. In its current state there's no way it's going to take all my time from LoL but it definitely has the potential to do so once it gets out of beta.

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    are beta invites via email or what?
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    Originally Posted by Keki View Post
    Game is kinda **** atm due to the amount of baddies.. feels like 1500 MMR play.
    That's because you're in a low skill tier bracket. I played with KingRaven the other day, the kid is such a crybaby nerd but it's funny how much he rages even while winning.


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    continuously makes me wonder on what basis they're sending invites out
    180 per day.

    Originally Posted by SCAR-H View Post
    Just got an invite today!

    I'm using Windrunner and learning how to play her. I've been stuck with bads all day, otherwise I would be doing better.
    Learn with Lich, even a lot of good WR players are bad. She's not exactly the most useful hero in the game, especially for someone beginning.

    Originally Posted by tnecniv View Post
    are beta invites via email or what?
    Yea, you'd get an E-mail unless a friend sends the key as a gift.
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    6.73 is out fellas. Major changes...

    http://www.playdota.com/changelogs/6.73

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    Originally Posted by Fishmin View Post
    6.73 is out fellas. Major changes...

    http://www.playdota.com/changelogs/6.73
    In.

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    Just bumping this thread and vouching for Peteyytran, I watched him play a couple of games and he's not a trash can Well, not from what I saw at least.
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    Originally Posted by Archheretic View Post
    I think i prefer the concede option in LoL over the concede option in HoN, in HoN there is often one stealth hero on the team that can still get kills on the enemies support heroes and try to keep the game going so they can farm kd. While in LoL you can concede with only 4 players if the game has gone long enough.
    That is how it is in HoN as well.

    I find the major issue with teams conceding early/prematurely is more based on enjoyment level of the game. A lot of times when you concede you still have a good shot at winning based on hero picks, farm levels and other factors... but in most cases it means that the game is going to drag on for a long time. I know I would personally like to concede a game @ 15 minutes that is zero fun because we are playing backfoot and just waiting for our Antimage/Magebane to farm. Sure we could win... @ the 70 minute mark.

    Gross.

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