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    the ones that ben johnson took

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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    well, Epogen is not really a steroid, its simply a performance enhanging drug. Good luck finding it. Its injectable only.

    It basically increases your red blood cell count (similar to training at high altitudes) so that you can run forever without getting winded. We gave it per protocol to our patients that were undergoing dialysis (when I worked at my local hospital)

    There's also a white blood cell equivalent called Neupogen but that would be kind of worthless in terms of excelling at a sport.
    EPO is quite easy to find...
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    Originally Posted by ExplorerSPL View Post
    test suspension and anavar, could do tren in the offseason for squat gains

    Most sprinters squat 2.5 times their bodyweight,strength does matter
    not really plenty of powerlifters with manlet legs and not a lot of high twitch muscel fibers who can't run fast but can squat big weights. And test suspension is no different then just like test p other then being more painful or out of system quicker. I don't wknow why people keep saying anavar that will not make you faster lol. Neither will test lol.
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    EPO is quite easy to find...
    yeah its also overrated and can kill yourself with it and wont make you faster either lol.
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    Originally Posted by asianasethetics View Post
    the ones that ben johnson took
    yeah he is also much slower then bolt who has been rigorously tested every comp since he started competing, guess why he is faster? Genetics. Speed like height is mostly genetic thats why those are the two thigns d-1 recruits look for in most sports, they can make anyone big with right supps you can't make someone taller or faster as easily.
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    Originally Posted by someonefat View Post
    yeah its also overrated and can kill yourself with it and wont make you faster either lol.
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    lol winstrol can make your joints brittle at high doses, have fun running with that...

    alot of juices make your cardiovascular capacity shot..

    I would imagine just straight up high dose test would be good if anything could.

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    Originally Posted by byrnebv View Post
    eq is an endurance builder
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    Originally Posted by someonefat View Post
    not really plenty of powerlifters with manlet legs and not a lot of high twitch muscel fibers who can't run fast but can squat big weights. And test suspension is no different then just like test p other then being more painful or out of system quicker. I don't wknow why people keep saying anavar that will not make you faster lol. Neither will test lol.
    Look up what top sprinters squat, you will be surprised, even top basketball players have similar strengh

    The stronger you are given your weight stays low the more potential you have for speed/vertical jump. Its common sense, the more you run the higher the amount of that strength you can utilize.

    And on suspension and prop, suspension is out in 3 days tops, prop in 2 weeks, that could make a massive difference

    Edit:ben johnson took furazabol not winny

    Eq raises red blood count, that is useless for 100m plus its detection time is like 5 months
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    Originally Posted by ExplorerSPL View Post
    Look up what top sprinters squat, you will be surprised, even top basketball players have similar strengh

    The stronger you are given your weight stays low the more potential you have for speed/vertical jump. Its common sense, the more you run the higher the amount of that strength you can utilize.

    And on suspension and prop, suspension is out in 3 days tops, prop in 2 weeks, that could make a massive difference

    Edit:ben johnson took furazabol not winny

    Eq raises red blood count, that is useless for 100m plus its detection time is like 5 months
    I know they are strong but lot of powerlifters are stronger and would struggle to run a 13+sec set 100meter dash even the lightweight guys. Metabolites of the drug can be in system much longer just saying and they test at random. They are fast due to mostly genetic most of them could run around 11sec with little training, guy like bot I bet is one of the weakest sprinters and yet he is the fastest, genetic in terms of how he is built mechanically, how his muscels work, and the number of high twitch fibers, effective cns, ext ext. Little to do with taking some more test in the system. If they use its to recover easier to train more not to make them faster like a weightlifter/bodybuiler would use to be bigger to make them stronger.
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    Originally Posted by someonefat View Post
    I know they are strong but lot of powerlifters are stronger and would struggle to run a 13+sec set 100meter dash even the lightweight guys. Metabolites of the drug can be in system much longer just saying and they test at random. They are fast due to mostly genetic most of them could run around 11sec with little training, guy like bot I bet is one of the weakest sprinters and yet he is the fastest, genetic in terms of how he is built mechanically, how his muscels work, and the number of high twitch fibers, effective cns, ext ext. Little to do with taking some more test in the system. If they use its to recover easier to train more not to make them faster like a weightlifter/bodybuiler would use to be bigger to make them stronger.
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    id say tren or other highly androgenic hormones like anadrol 50 , along with something to increase RBC further(not taht tren wont to that ) and low does HGH to avoid stalling due to little injury..

    although almost any steroid will increase ones athletic aperformance

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    I know they are strong but lot of powerlifters are stronger and would struggle to run a 13+sec set 100meter dash even the lightweight guys. Metabolites of the drug can be in system much longer just saying and they test at random. They are fast due to mostly genetic most of them could run around 11sec with little training, guy like bot I bet is one of the weakest sprinters and yet he is the fastest, genetic in terms of how he is built mechanically, how his muscels work, and the number of high twitch fibers, effective cns, ext ext. Little to do with taking some more test in the system. If they use its to recover easier to train more not to make them faster like a weightlifter/bodybuiler would use to be bigger to make them stronger.
    Lol bro im talking from expeirience, close friend is a sprinter at a high level(offered 60k sponsorship from nike straight out of high school a few years back)

    They lift heavy and often, a lot of squats and lunges stepping onto a bench, etc.

    They work upper body just as hard too
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