Hi guys, this is my first post so bare with me. I have a friend who ran the EC stack. He lost about 40 pounds in 3 months. I have been working out for a while now, I want to lose 40 pounds too and this seems like a good way to do it seeing as how he is living proof that it clearly works. I m aware of some of the side effects of EC but some of them just seem like typical side effects you would get from just drinking a cup of coffee. Just wondering about your opinions on my situation and if you guys have any knowledge that is 'easier to digest' then the mumbojumbo on the internet ie. more serious/long term side effects.
I wouldn't plan on running it forever, probably 4-6 weeks at a time tops and probably at smaller doses just cause I would still be nervous about the whole thing.
here's some of my info if itll help.
-6 foot 3
-230 lbs
-19
-gym 4-5 times a week
-mediocre diet but i'm working on it
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09-29-2011, 07:46 PM #1
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EC Stack
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Taken from hotnfit.com
Note 1 - Do NOT take any other caffeinated products while on EC such as tea, cola, coffee. Drink additional water since caffeine is a diuretic.
Note 2 - If you have bladder issues/discomfort decrease your dose (either cut it in half, or take 2 doses per day instead of 3).
Note 3 - After ~4 weeks the loss of appetite and extra energy will mellow out, but the thermogenic effects continue for a very long time, so it is your choice whether to cycle off. The fat loss effects should continue. If you choose to take a 2 week break after 6-8 weeks, you can stay on the caffeine. You would go back to day 2 and raise the ephedrine slowly according to the schedule above when you go back on. I do not recommend exceeding 8 straight weeks. Take a minimum 2 week break after 8 weeks. Then restart with day 2.
Note 4 - The loss of appetite can be so severe that you may feel like throwing up if you eat a lot (in the first 1-2 weeks). I suggest eating very small meals (eg. 200 cals each) frequently, and feel free to add things which are not filling eg. cereal with milk, fruit, whey shakes.. try to ensure you eat at least at your BMR.
Note 5 - Taking an asthma inhaler while on EC may lead to overdose (they have similar activity). If you need to take inhalers for asthma, I would suggest NOT taking an EC stack.
Note 6 - Do NOT use in the heat. It is very easy to get overheated due to the thermogenic effects and this puts you at risk. You may want to avoid using this is very warm climates and/or outdoors.
Discontinue use if you experience: irregular heart beat, skipped heart beats, high blood pressure, panic, dizziness, agitation, or any other symptoms that concern you.
An EC Stack can cause your heart rate to rise, and extremely intensity activity should be avoided (eg. HIIT). I suggest not raising your heart rate above 80% MHR during cardio, that is 0.8*(220 - age). Weightlifting is not the same as HIIT as your heart rate does go up high, but you are resting frequently and it goes down. Some sports could be an issue. Remember you can always skip a dose before an activity where this would be an issue!
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Mediocre diet will=fail. When you come off you will likely gain most of your fat back if you lose any. How was your buddies diet when he went on it? How was his workout compared to yours? I can tell you when I came off it I felt like crap too, lost almost all my motivation. I wanted to do nothing but sleep. And I also thought it would help me get past a plateau, turns out all I needed to do was make some modifications to my diet, which was already pretty good. Started eating really well, got my energy back, and started getting crazy at the gym. Don't look to supplements to do anything for you, look at your diet and get a proper exercise plan first.
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09-29-2011, 08:16 PM #9
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Not really, I lost a ton of weight when I first started my diet, the original Atkin's Diet. All fat and protein, I ate meat, eggs, fish, and more meat. Absolutely nothing else. I was losing like 1-2lbs a day at first, and mind you I was 280lbs, I was down about 30lbs in my first month, and I was doing no exercise (I would recommend exercising, we all make mistakes). When I hit 230 I stopped losing (by this point I was exercising cardio/lifting), so I looked to stimulant fat burners (I am sure you all remember the AX Slim Xtreme fiasco, don't ask, research and never take it) well I'll tell you, I was losing again. Got down to 195 and about 25% fat. That was about 2 years ago. I came off the stuff and said never again, well, never again turned into an EC stack cause I got back up to 220 last year. It was doing very little, and I would feel like crap until I took my dose. So now I am down to 195 at 20% body fat after starting my diet and exercise about 4 months ago (started at 220lbs). Definitely didn't lose as fast as last time, but I only stopped carbs for a short period of time and worked certain veggies and grains back in as well as the obvious Protein. The point is, don't rely on a miracle pill, you may see benefits, but you will surely fail if you don't get your diet and workout plan under way.
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