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I have watched loads of those guys' videos and i use to think they knew there stuff.
Guess what when they were 19 or 20 they experimented with pro hormones. ALso they use to be in the marines. Thus thats a reason why they are in great shape. Plus they are around 35 years of age. I looked at the before picture when they use to never lift weights seriously, this happened just after the marines. You know what, there before pictures weren't to shabby.
I disagrew with alot of what they say. You need to lift heavy to grow, they don't think very much.
They don't deadlift nor do they squat. One of them can't squat because of a back injury. But the other one choses not to do either. Both of them don't deadlift or squat. This ends my thoughts about them.
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09-28-2011, 09:09 PM #6
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Heavier weights = more muscle recruitment.
Keep curling 30 lbs all your life.
I do not believe you have to lift heavy to get big/strong. Except for select exercises, I use anywhere from 20 to 30 reps and sometimes more.http://tiny.cc/GoldenEra
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09-28-2011, 09:16 PM #7
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Depends on what one's definition of 'heavy' is. If you only trained with 10-15 reps, assuming this doesn't qualify as heavy, (well I don't think it does), then of course you could pack on some size, but by not doing low reps you're limiting yourself by not training all of the muscle fibres worth training for size.'People are gonna remember me as a god forever... Like-like-like Troy, like Chiles heel, I'm a god forever I'll be remembered for thousands of years to come' - Jason Genova
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09-28-2011, 09:18 PM #8
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09-28-2011, 09:33 PM #9
Best thing to do is mix things up...Try working up to a couple of heavy sets, then drop the weight and do 5x10 or something...Simple stupid = Results.
I have always trained for strength and I have steadily been getting bigger and bigger each year, all while my lifts are sky-rocketing each year. I don't understand how people can just go to the gym and rep sht out but not want to move the most amount of weight you can and then try and beat it in the next few weeks...I get huge satisfaction in getting PRs in my training.Strength is more useful than weakness.
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09-28-2011, 09:43 PM #10
This topic is always discussed in extremes and absolutes. Even these guys say you need a decent amount of strength to put on size. What they say is true, if you're benching between 160-200 15-20 reps you're going to be significantly larger than someone like myself who probably can't do 100, and you'll probably be 'impressive.'
The problem on their side is that 'big' comes in many sizes, there's big, there's ripped, and then there's pro body builder big and it depends on your goals whether moderate weight is enough to get you the results you want.
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09-28-2011, 09:45 PM #11
Well I think what they mean is that you can stay in a high rep range around 10-12 reps and get just as big as if you lifted really heavy. If your adding weight then you should have no problem getting big. Muscles know failure it doesn't matter if it's 225 to failure or 300. If you bench 225 10 times it's the same as doing 265 5 times. Both are failure and lifting those weights until you can't anymore. Both 225x10 and 265x5 = 300lb bench maxes. Why ruin your joints? If it doesn't hurt now it will later.
Like they said if you lift heavy alot your always gonna want to beat your record and one day when you have 400+ on there some **** is gonna get snapped up!
09-28-2011, 10:05 PM #12
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This guy doesn't lift heavy very often but he lifts like crazy with the body weight exercises and moderate weight. Does he have size? I don't see it.
If you want to get big. Lift heavy.
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225 lbs for benching is not light, at least for me because after 10 years of lifting I can't bench 225 even for 1 rep. I can stop the bar from coming down but I can't move it up more than an inch and the spotter has to help me get it up the rest of the way. I beleive I can bench my bodyweight 20 times or at least get close to it but I mostly use hammer strength machines or dumbbells for benching and never trained consistently with barbell benching due to not having a spotter and when I do get a spotter sometimes I get a spotter that does a bad job spotting me. If benching 225 lbs is light enough for a particular person to be able to do high reps with that weight then mostly likely they are huge.Objective: To get stronger
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And their "before" pictures look like ****. They were skinny-fat and could get 4 reps with 135 on the bench. At 6'1" (or however tall they are), it doesn't get much worse than that.
09-29-2011, 07:03 AM #24
how can this come up so often...
There is a direct 100% proven correlation between lifting heavy and size gainz.....IF said trainee is eating enough calories.
Size is manipulated by food
Strength is manipulated by training style
doesnt matter wat u say or do...size gains are only gonna occur if u are in positive calorie surplus...no amt of reps and weight is ever gonna change that.Are you a personal trainer?
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