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    Exclamation Senator: Consider military action against Pakistan

    WASHINGTON (AP) — A Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee said Sunday that the U.S. should consider military action against Pakistan if it continues to support terrorist attacks against American troops in Afghanistan.

    "The sovereign nation of Pakistan is engaging in hostile acts against the United States and our ally Afghanistan that must cease, Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina told "Fox News Sunday."

    He said if experts decided that the U.S. needs to "elevate its response," he was confident there would be strong bipartisan support in Congress for such action.

    Graham did not call for military action but said "all options" should be considered. He said assistance to Pakistan should be reconfigured and that the U.S. should no longer designate an amount of aid for Pakistan but have a more "transactional relationship" with the country.

    "They're killing American soldiers," he said. "If they continue to embrace terrorism as a part of their national strategy, we're going to have to put all options on the table, including defending our troops."

    In testimony last week to Graham's committee, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, said Pakistan's powerful military intelligence agency had backed extremists in planning and executing the assault on the U.S. Embassy in Afghanistan and a truck bomb attack that wounded 77 American soldiers. Both occurred this month.

    Mullen contended that the Haqqani insurgent network "acts as a veritable arm" of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency as it undermined U.S.-Pakistan relations, already tenuous because of the war in Afghanistan. Pakistan exports violence, Mullen said, and threatens any success in the 10-year-old war.

    Graham said Pakistan does cooperate with the U.S. in actions against al-Qaida. But he said the Pakistani military feels threatened by a democracy in Afghanistan and is betting that the Taliban will come back there.

    "The best solution is for Pakistan to fight all forms of terrorism, embrace working with us so that we can deal with terrorism along their border, because it is the biggest threat to stability," he said. "But Pakistan is terrorism itself. They have made a tremendous miscalculation."
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    im sure india wouldnt mind giving us a hand. time to pay ****istan
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    they have the 8th largest military in the world wtf man
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    knew it when they "found bin laden".

    The usa have been buliding up negative proganda against the pakstanis.

    A war with pakistan would be HORRIBLE.Pakistan are no joke srs.

    Plus china wont have it.They will supply pakistan at LEAST.

    The next terror attack will set it off
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    Originally Posted by Large_Emu View Post
    they have the 8th largest military in the world wtf man
    so? Military ranking is somewhat exponential the higher you get. Pakistan would have to be on the defense. They have nothing that can reach the us.
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    would be a 42 hour fight... inb4 next desert storm
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    yes!! more military spending thats what we need
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    Originally Posted by Large_Emu View Post
    they have the 8th largest military in the world wtf man
    It still blows.
    The above post is a 100% complete lie

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    Originally Posted by Ace Thedics View Post
    It still blows.
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    would be a 42 hour fight... inb4 next desert storm
    Morons.Its a nuclear power.

    Plus China WILL BACK PAKISTAN.
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    Originally Posted by Maverickyo View Post
    would be a 42 hour fight... inb4 next desert storm
    lmao 42 hours? uve been in afghan for over 10 years. Also clearly noone wants the american forces in the middle east/ south asia so idk why they still medaling with other ppls business. For every 1 taliban fighter they kill, 10 innocent civilians are killed along with it.
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    Originally Posted by AmuroRay View Post
    Morons.Its a nuclear power.

    Plus China WILL BACK PAKISTAN.
    But India will Back the U.S. But i still disagree with going to war. What the U.S should do is cut all Aid and help to Pakistan. Problem Solved.
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    Originally Posted by Ace Thedics View Post
    WASHINGTON (AP) — A Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee said Sunday that the U.S. should consider military action against Pakistan if it continues to support terrorist attacks against American troops in Afghanistan.

    "The sovereign nation of Pakistan is engaging in hostile acts against the United States and our ally Afghanistan that must cease, Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina told "Fox News Sunday."

    He said if experts decided that the U.S. needs to "elevate its response," he was confident there would be strong bipartisan support in Congress for such action.

    Graham did not call for military action but said "all options" should be considered. He said assistance to Pakistan should be reconfigured and that the U.S. should no longer designate an amount of aid for Pakistan but have a more "transactional relationship" with the country.

    "They're killing American soldiers," he said. "If they continue to embrace terrorism as a part of their national strategy, we're going to have to put all options on the table, including defending our troops."

    In testimony last week to Graham's committee, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, said Pakistan's powerful military intelligence agency had backed extremists in planning and executing the assault on the U.S. Embassy in Afghanistan and a truck bomb attack that wounded 77 American soldiers. Both occurred this month.

    Mullen contended that the Haqqani insurgent network "acts as a veritable arm" of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency as it undermined U.S.-Pakistan relations, already tenuous because of the war in Afghanistan. Pakistan exports violence, Mullen said, and threatens any success in the 10-year-old war.

    Graham said Pakistan does cooperate with the U.S. in actions against al-Qaida. But he said the Pakistani military feels threatened by a democracy in Afghanistan and is betting that the Taliban will come back there.

    "The best solution is for Pakistan to fight all forms of terrorism, embrace working with us so that we can deal with terrorism along their border, because it is the biggest threat to stability," he said. "But Pakistan is terrorism itself. They have made a tremendous


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    Why is any form of violence referred to as terrorism?
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    Why is any form of violence referred to as terrorism?
    Because it's violence on the part of the "bad guys"
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    **** that, we need a ****ing revolution
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    Countries we are bombing:
    Afghanistan
    Iraq
    Pakistan (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12769209)
    Libya (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...211029304.html)
    Yemen (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...XYK_story.html)
    ****lia (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/197622.html)

    Added bonus:
    "U.S. assembling secret drone bases in Africa, Arabian Peninsula, officials say"
    (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...OjK_print.html)

    4 more countries left on our bombing punchcard, and we get a free meal!
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    Originally Posted by LaxinAround View Post
    Countries we are bombing:
    Afghanistan
    Iraq
    Pakistan (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12769209)
    Libya (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...211029304.html)
    Yemen (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...XYK_story.html)
    ****lia (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/197622.html)

    Added bonus:
    "U.S. assembling secret drone bases in Africa, Arabian Peninsula, officials say"
    (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...OjK_print.html)

    4 more countries left on our bombing punchcard, and we get a free meal!
    military industrial complex, if we aint bombing people someones not making money
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    This is why India won't get involved...Also Pakistan is suspected to have more nukes than India. Goodbye sweet prince

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    National security: Military leadership rejects US allegations

    By AFP / Express
    Published: September 25, 2011

    RAWALPINDI: Pakistan’s military leadership on Sunday unanimously rejected the allegations leveled against Pakistani security institutions by the United States.

    The six hour long emergency Corps Commanders meeting chaired by Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani concluded in Rawalpindi on Sunday. Sources said no formal declaration of the meeting will be issued.

    Chairman joint chiefs of staff committee (CJCSC) General Khalid Shamim Wynne expressed concern over the recent statements made by the US, and said that Pak-US relations need to be improved.

    Sources said the military top brass decided that every decision is to be taken in Pakistan’s interest and that attacks from Afghanistan on the Pak-Afghan border will not be tolerated in the future.

    An emergency meeting of Corps Commanders was called by General Kayani in the wake of the prevailing security situation and tension in relations with the United States.

    An Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) statement said the meeting was being chaired by Kayani. Issues regarding national security are on top of the agenda.

    All corps commanders and principle staff officers attended the meeting.

    According to sources, recent allegations leveled by US military chief Mike Mullen that Pakistan has links with the Haqqani network will also be discussed.

    The Pakistan Army has denied accusations by senior US officials that Pakistan’s intelligence service supports the Haqqani network, saying it is based in Afghanistan.

    However, spokesman for the ISPR Major General Athar Abbas did acknowledge that the ISI had contacts with the Haqqanis.

    He told CNN that any intelligence agency prefers keeping contacts with opposition groups and terrorist organizations for some sort of positive outcome.

    He stressed that this does not mean the ISI supports or endorses the organization.

    Abbas also added that Pakistan is not the only country which maintains contacts with the Haqqanis.

    He also expressed his shock at Mullen’s assertion that Pakistan was complicit in recent attacks against the US Embassy in Kabul.

    In an earlier statement, Kayani termed the comments by Mullen as ‘unfortunate’, and ‘not based on facts’.

    (Read: Volley heats up: ISI targeted in bitter Mullen tirade)

    In the first official reaction to the slew of public statements made by various levels of the US administration against the ISI and suspected links between the Haqqani network and the Pakistan establishment, Kayani said that he had held a constructive meeting with Admiral Mullen in Spain last week.

    He termed the statements following that meeting as very disturbing.

    On the question of contacts with Haqqani network, Kayani said that Admiral Mullen knows well which countries are in contact with the Haqqanis. Singling out Pakistan as the chief protagonist is neither fair nor productive, he said.

    ‘Self-defeating blame game’

    Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani on Saturday rejected US allegations linking Islamabad with the Haqqani terror network, saying the “blame game is self-defeating”.

    Gilani said such accusations would only benefit the militants, and added that they showed US policy in Afghanistan was in “disarray”.

    “We strongly reject assertions of complicity with the Haqqanis or of proxy war,” he said in a policy statement issued by his office amid a growing rift with the United States.

    “Blame game is self-defeating… It will only benefit the enemies of peace. Only terrorists and militants will gain from any fissures and divisions.”

    The White House demanded Friday that Pakistan “break any link they have” with the Haqqanis, the al Qaeda-linked Taliban faction blamed for the recent attack on the US embassy in Kabul.

    A day earlier top US military officer Admiral Mike Mullen directly accused Pakistan’s intelligence service of supporting the network’s attack on the embassy and a truck bombing on a NATO outpost.

    “The allegations betray a confusion and policy disarray within the US establishment on the way forward in Afghanistan,” Gilani said.
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    Gilani directs Khar to forcefully project Pakistan’s case at UNGA

    By APP / Express
    Published: September 25, 2011

    ISLAMABAD: As tension prevails between the United States and Pakistan, Prime Minister Syed Yousaf Raza Gilani, on Sunday, directed Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar to forcefully project Pakistan’s point of view in her United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) address.

    The Prime Minister House spokesman said that Gilani spoke to Foreign Minister Ms Hina Rabbani Khar twice, and directed her to project Pakistan’s point of view in the General Assembly on September 27.

    The spokesman said that the he had directed Khar to return to Pakistan immediately after delivering her speech.

    Earlier Express 24/7 reported that Gilani summoned Foreign Minister Khar back to Islamabad on Sunday for the All Parties Conference (APC).

    Khar’s presence is said to be vital during the APC as she was one of the few members of the civilian leadership to have been directly approached by US officials regarding allegations of Pakistan running a proxy war in Afghanistan via the Haqqani network.

    According to the Pakistan embassy in the United States, Khar will be cutting her trip short and likely flying back to Pakistan directly after her speech. She will meet both Gilani and President Zardari on arrival, say sources.

    Gilani on Sunday contacted leaders of various political parties to develop a consensus over the US allegations against Pakistani security institutions via the APC.

    (Read more: Pakistan not responsible for security of US forces, says PM)

    Sources said that the government has decided to take all the political parties on board before drafting a strategy over the allegations by the US that Pakistan was complicit with the Haqqani network responsible for last week’s attack on the US embassy and a Nato headquarters in Kabul.

    Gilani contacted Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) chief Mian Nawaz Sharif, Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) chief Altaf Hussain and Awami National Party (ANP) chief Asfandayar Wali .

    (Read: US-Pak matters: Gilani takes all politicians on board)

    On Sunday, Pakistan’s military leadership also unanimously rejected the allegations leveled against Pakistani security institutions by the United States.

    The six hour long emergency Corps Commanders meeting chaired by Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani concluded in Rawalpindi on Sunday. Sources said no formal declaration of the meeting will be issued.

    Chairman joint chiefs of staff committee (CJCSC) General Khalid Shamim Wynne expressed concern over the recent statements made by the US, and said that Pak-US relations need to be improved.
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    Originally Posted by Large_Emu View Post
    they have the 8th largest military in the world wtf man
    Iraq had the 5th largest in Operation Desert Storm.

    Originally Posted by AmuroRay View Post
    Morons.Its a nuclear power.

    Plus China WILL BACK PAKISTAN.
    China won't send troops. They have a vested intrest in Pakistan but that should manifest itself solely in the sale of equpment and arms. (hopefully). If not, India better step up it's game.

    Originally Posted by batmanman View Post
    Why is any form of violence referred to as terrorism?
    Because that's the easiest way to get the Herp Derp portion of our population to support military action.


    Here's an Idea: GET THE FUKK OUT OF AFGANISTAN. Nation building is "not" why went over there in the first place. We got Osama, Mission Accomplished. GTFO.





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    US-Pak matters: Gilani takes all politicians on board

    By AFP / Express
    Published: September 25, 2011

    Prime Minister Syed Yousaf Raza Gilani on Sunday contacted leaders of various political parties to develop a consensus over the US allegations against Pakistani security institutions.

    (Read more: Pakistan not responsible for security of US forces, says PM)

    Sources said that the government has decided to take all the political parties on board before drafting strategy over the latest allegations by the US that Pakistan was complicit with the Haqqani network responsible for last week’s attack on the US embassy and a Nato headquarters in Kabul.

    Express 24/7 correspondent Sohail Chaudhry said that Gilani contacted Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) chief Mian Nawaz Sharif, Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) chief Altaf Hussain and Awami National Party (ANP) chief Asfandayar Wali .

    The prime minister also contacted Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid’s (PML-Q) Chaudhry Shujaat, Jamat-e-Islami’s head Syed Munwar Hassan and Jamiat-e-Ulema Islam – Fazal (JUI-F) chief Maulana Fazalur Rehman.

    Gilani is also likely to call Tehreek-e-Insaaf chief Imran Khan later in the day.

    The Prime Minister discussed the latest political situation with the political leaders and took them into confidence regarding Pakistan’s stance over the United States’ accusations against the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI).

    He has welcomed suggestions by the political leadership to strengthen Pakistan’s political position in this regard.

    This week, US officials said there was mounting evidence that Pakistan’s powerful intelligence agency had encouraged a guerrilla network to attack US targets, while a Senate committee voted to make aid to Islamabad conditional on fighting the militants.

    The Haqqani network is one of three, and perhaps the most feared, allied insurgent factions fighting US-led NATO and Afghan troops under the Taliban banner in Afghanistan.

    Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said he had pressed Pakistan’s army chief for Islamabad to break its links with the militant group.

    Insurgents besieged the US embassy and Nato headquarters in Kabul with rocket and gunfire for 19 hours earlier this month, leaving 15 people dead and turning the most secure district of the Afghan capital into a battle zone.

    Gilani said given the sacrifices made by Pakistani security forces and citizens the “propaganda blitz against Pakistan is indeed most unfortunate”.

    “It vitiates the atmosphere and is counter-productive. It tends to ignore the sacrifices by the people of Pakistan and negates all that we have endeavoured to achieve over the last so many years,” he said.

    More then 35,000 Pakistanis have been killed in the fight against terrorism and many more injured, Gilani said, adding that the US was well aware of the arrests and killings of a large number of al Qaeda operatives by Pakistan.
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    People still think countries will actually nuke each other if provoked?
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