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    Post Mystery (PUA) = TOTAL FRAUD

    Make sure to watch the whole video:



    This fa.ggot is an insecure social robot.
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    Do you expect him to complete every encounter with a phone number and sex the next night?

    Have you read the book "The game?"
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    Agreed. He's a big bullsh*tter and PUA itself is bullsh*t.
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    Originally Posted by socrates07 View Post
    Do you expect him to complete every encounter with a phone number and sex the next night?
    Of course not, but coming from the so called #1 pick up artist I expect him to at least carry on a normal conversation.

    Did you watch the whole video?

    It was awkward as f.uck. He bored the s.hit out of everyone.
    Keep it simple, always.
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    Originally Posted by Pnigro View Post
    Of course not, but coming from the so called #1 pick up artist I expect him to at least carry on a normal conversation.

    Did you watch the whole video?

    It was awkward as f.uck. He bored the s.hit out of everyone.
    People do have off nights ya know? I disagree with a lot of his methods and ideas, but he's found a way to get chicks to come onto his weird ways.. just not that night.

    That said, you should check the book out.
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    Originally Posted by socrates07 View Post
    People do have off nights ya know? I disagree with a lot of his methods and ideas, but he's found a way to get chicks to come onto his weird ways.. just not that night.

    That said, you should check the book out.
    I watched that video, and that wasn't just a day off. The dude is ****ing weird. I am sure his methods have landed him some chicks in the past, but he just shoots himself in the foot like most guys do when talking to a chick. I am not the greatest, but I can at least make other guys in the group like me. Mystery is a ****ing ***got and anyone who follows him, well, is getting horrible advice.
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    Wait, you mean PUA material is about making money, and exploiting insecure low self esteem forever aloners/phaggot's?

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    Oh man it is a good thing he didn't open that set there because if he gets an interrupt within the first three minutes its called an external interrupt and it can compromise his values and it can lower his value he SO LUCKED OUT ON THAT ONE.
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    wtf was all that? that was the worst thing I've ever seen...how can a person be so dull and why would they record this bull****?
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    I thought girls don't like it when you talk about yourself? That's all he did the whole time and ramble on about boring ass ****.
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    This is my probably with PUA's

    None of them have NORMAL CONVERSATIONS, they're always forced, boring, awkward, and about RANDOM SHT no one would ever normally talk about!

    Who does that? Who goes to clubs and bars and talks to girls about their groups of friends when they moved here? No one. Who cold approaches girls on the street and talks about horoscopes and oceans? No one.
    There's a reason; it's boring as fuk and awkward.

    And I swear to god I was ready to punch the tv if I heard him say "3 minute rule" one more time.

    These guys get so caught up in this robotic phaggotry assuming that there is only ONE direct method to getting laid that they forget to actually LIVE, HAVE FUN, and DRAW PEOPLE IN to your fun.

    So robotic, so fake, so forced, so awkward...
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    Lot of snake oil and useless chit in the dating advice industry, but Mystery is one of the few dudes that's actually legit.

    That said, you can't please everyone. I think Entropy or whatever said that if a superstar player were to cold-approach 10 RANDOM hot women, they would sleep with maybe one.

    The way players boost their success ratios through the roof is by selecting their approaches beforehand and stacking the deck in their favor.
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    Not sure why you think he's a fraud, and I'm not a PUA fan or anything although I recognize Mystery from that one PUA show. I'd challenge anyone in the Misc to cold approach someone on tape and do better though.

    I don't even know what I sound like when I'm talking to women but I bet if I recorded myself I'd sound like the most random phaggot ever, lulz.
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    Originally Posted by DrunkNinjaMastr View Post
    I watched that video, and that wasn't just a day off. The dude is ****ing weird.
    This.
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    This guy is the actual "Mystery"??? The one from the book???

    Mind = blown

    I honestly can't believe that he even gets laid.... I've got friends from university who would MURDER this guy when it comes to picking up women lol....
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    wow that was pretty awkward
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    Originally Posted by janky View Post
    This is my probably with PUA's

    None of them have NORMAL CONVERSATIONS, they're always forced, boring, awkward, and about RANDOM SHT no one would ever normally talk about!

    Who does that? Who goes to clubs and bars and talks to girls about their groups of friends when they moved here? No one. Who cold approaches girls on the street and talks about horoscopes and oceans? No one.
    There's a reason; it's boring as fuk and awkward.

    And I swear to god I was ready to punch the tv if I heard him say "3 minute rule" one more time.

    These guys get so caught up in this robotic phaggotry assuming that there is only ONE direct method to getting laid that they forget to actually LIVE, HAVE FUN, and DRAW PEOPLE IN to your fun.

    So robotic, so fake, so forced, so awkward...
    why the fuk didn't you tell me this from the start. I realized how PUA is bull**** just 2weeks ago..... after years of trying PUA technique(lame lines mostly, I was never good with push andpull, I always thought peacocking was stupid) Some of the stuff is good info but being yourself and having crap load of confidence is so much better.
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    as i always say
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    holy **** i used to respect this guy. what a shame - all my heroes are turning into douches. then again, PUAistry is kind of douchey. you just gotta be confident and you can get any chick you want.

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    Originally Posted by Ecnewyx View Post
    Not sure why you think he's a fraud, and I'm not a PUA fan or anything although I recognize Mystery from that one PUA show. I'd challenge anyone in the Misc to cold approach someone on tape and do better though.

    I don't even know what I sound like when I'm talking to women but I bet if I recorded myself I'd sound like the most random phaggot ever, lulz.

    This

    I mean no doubt that was super awkward. And ya the conversation topics are weird but he did have a girl sticking around for awhile. Though when it got really awkward instead of bailing he seemed to just try to push through the awkwardness and obviously it was epic fail.

    But i too have had conversations with girls where it didn't flow well and got awkward too, though i just bail at that point lol

    but props to him for not hitting the eject button and sinking with the ship.
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    You're kidding me right?
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    At 4:40, "I have more guy friends"
    Like every other attention whore out there.
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    That was horrible. Makes me NOT believe what I read in Neil Strauss's the Game
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    pua is like most other things in life; some of it is good, some of it is bad.

    the stuff about female psychology is ****ing gold. the rehearsed routines for the socially awkward is terrible.
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    Originally Posted by kel_varnsen View Post
    the stuff about female psychology is ****ing gold.
    Not really. It's more so pseudo-evolutionary pyschology.
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    Originally Posted by NeoKantian View Post
    Not really. It's more so pseudo-evolutionary pyschology.
    nope.
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    I always thought the problem is they assume every girl is exactly the same and should be approached in the same way.

    You can't approach some stupid blonde sorority chick the same way you would approach some artsy/hipster girl or the same way you would approach some shy nerdy girl.


    I once gave a really artsy girl I was talking to a mixtape of indie songs and a note about how I thought we "related" to them.


    If I told the RH I did that, I would get two pages of being called a "beta phaggot" and how I'm totally "friendzoned" now.


    But guess what? That mixtape got me laid in an hour.


    Now, if I gave it to some blonde bimbo I was talking to, then she would go laugh it up with all her friends and talk about how "weird" I am and "what a loser."
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    Originally Posted by Apeus View Post
    I always thought the problem is they assume every girl is exactly the same and should be approached in the same way.

    You can't approach some stupid blonde sorority chick the same way you would approach some artsy/hipster girl or the same way you would approach some shy nerdy girl.


    I once gave a really artsy girl I was talking to a mixtape of indie songs and a note about how I thought we "related" to them.


    If I told the RH I did that, I would get too pages of being called a "beta phaggot" and how I'm totally "friendzoned" now.


    But guess what? That mixtape got me laid in an hour.


    Now, if I gave it to some blonde bimbo I was talking to, then she would go laugh it up with all her friends and talk about "weird" I am and "what a loser."

    Applause.gif

    For you guys talking about "female psychology", if you knew anything about psychology you would understand no two people have the same mindset. EVERYONE in the world is different - so a generalized approach routine tailored to "female psychology" is an oxymoron in itself. Like Apeus said, everyone is different - so if you try to TAILOR an approach that much, you're setting yourself up for failure.

    Do people have bad days? Sure. Do good players get rejected? All the time.
    The point, IMO, that op was trying to make is that mystery is awkward as fuk and his sht doesn't feel natural, smooth, or even conducive to a guy that pulls a lot.

    And if you say; "Oh i challenge anyone here to do better", come hang out. Or save yourself the airline ticket, and go watch one of your friends who is good with women. I guarantee your friend isn't talking about how he just moved here and his group of friends, then rambling incessantly about "3 second rules".
    Your friend probably just approaches at random, sparks convo on whatever pops into his head, teases the girl a bit, compliments her a bit, and grabs a number or takes her to go dance/drink.
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    Originally Posted by Apeus View Post
    I always thought the problem is they assume every girl is exactly the same and should be approached in the same way.

    You can't approach some stupid blonde sorority chick the same way you would approach some artsy/hipster girl or the same way you would approach some shy nerdy girl.


    I once gave a really artsy girl I was talking to a mixtape of indie songs and a note about how I thought we "related" to them.


    If I told the RH I did that, I would get two pages of being called a "beta phaggot" and how I'm totally "friendzoned" now.


    But guess what? That mixtape got me laid in an hour.


    Now, if I gave it to some blonde bimbo I was talking to, then she would go laugh it up with all her friends and talk about how "weird" I am and "what a loser."



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    Originally Posted by janky View Post
    Applause.gif

    For you guys talking about "female psychology", if you knew anything about psychology you would understand no two people have the same mindset. EVERYONE in the world is different - so a generalized approach routine tailored to "female psychology" is an oxymoron in itself. Like Apeus said, everyone is different - so if you try to TAILOR an approach that much, you're setting yourself up for failure.

    Do people have bad days? Sure. Do good players get rejected? All the time.
    The point, IMO, that op was trying to make is that mystery is awkward as fuk and his sht doesn't feel natural, smooth, or even conducive to a guy that pulls a lot.

    And if you say; "Oh i challenge anyone here to do better", come hang out. Or save yourself the airline ticket, and go watch one of your friends who is good with women. I guarantee your friend isn't talking about how he just moved here and his group of friends, then rambling incessantly about "3 second rules".
    Your friend probably just approaches at random, sparks convo on whatever pops into his head, teases the girl a bit, compliments her a bit, and grabs a number or takes her to go dance/drink.
    Yes. I would have to agree. I've never hit on a girl talking about oceans or their friends moving here. I can be very random. I much prefer to brag about her checking me out and bitches mirrin hard then to be talking about some forced bull**** I heard from some phaggot who is awkward as ****. That is the worst thing I notice about these kinds of people. For a person to resort to this, they must acknowledge there incapability or that, at the very best, they are struggling with a major part of life, that being reproducing. While sex isn't the holy grail of life, if a man is not reproducing, he is not living up to his true nature, and this is a big deal. While I dislike this creepy ****, I respect anyone doing something more then one of those phaggots blaming my being white, good looking, and ripped as being why I can haul ass.



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