Guys aware me on Charles Poliquin....

[3Ni]

Talked to a friend and told me this


If over 10% body fat for a man, or over 15-20% for a woman, you are fat.

The stronger your immune system, the easier it is to gain muscle and lose fat.

The more insulin you produce, the faster you age.

The best predictor of lifespan is muscle mass and strength


Supplements

Omega 3 Fatty Acids from pharmaceutical grade fish oils are the most valuable supplement you can take. The subject should take 15g/day for two weeks if deficient, then reduce the dosage to 5g/day indefinitely after that. Fish oils will help burn fat and prevent fat gain. They improve serotonin levels (mood), make it easier to move nutrients in and out of cell walls, reduce joint inflammation, decrease the amount of sugar your body will absorb, improves blood pressure and decrease insulin output when taken with a meal.

You should take it throughout the day and rotate your source of EFA?s every 10 days. Krill Oil is the best source as it also eliminates PMS and you don?t need high doses of this type of oil.

Fat people should not consume carbs post-workout. The best Post workout drink for a 200lb overweight man is: Whey Isolate 60g + Glutamine 20-80g + Glycine 20g. This will replenish glycogen while preventing fat gain.

Licorice Root Cream can be rubbed on the abdominal as it will aid in burning fat from the stomach. The trade name is called Glycgel.

Adaptogens such as Red Korean Ginseng can help you recuperate from stress and tough workouts. Rhodiola Rosea is a very powerful adaptogen; take it when you need energy. It is a Cortisol Modulator, meaning that if your cortisol is too low it will help you raise it and if too high, it will help you lower it. Take only 1 tab per day, as it is very potent. Stevia is a natural sweetener and a great adrenal recovery aid. Cold Fx is also a surprisingly good product. It is good for adrenaline glands, fat loss, decreasing insulin output, and regenerates the pancreas.

To help men raise testosterone Charles recommends the following. Zinc is low in all active men and plays an important role in test production. Zinc arginic is best, no more than 30mg/day. Holy Basil also helps raise testosterone.

As for estrogen, DIM is a strong anti-estrogen that specifically targets the bad estrogens caused by phyto-estrogens in our environment.

R-ALA is anabolic and promotes fat burning, only the R for is good, the S form of ALA is counter productive. It is an anti-oxidant that also promotes glucose transport into muscle cells. As well it Increases the metabolic rate and decreases insulin output.

Acetyl-L-Carnitine is a healthy stimulant; it also improves memory and is anti-aging for the brain. It too increases insulin sensitivity.

Charles recommends that one uses a good multi-vitamin when attempting to lose fat as fat loss releases toxins that are stored in your fat and your body will need all the vitamins and minerals it can get to fight these toxins.

Estrogen ?16? is a bad form of estrogen in our bodies that we want to eliminate, supplements that combat estrogen ?16? are Broccoli extract, DIM and Green Tea

Taurine is an amino acid that increases insulin sensitivity, increases cell communication, and increase carb metabolism.

Magnesium Chelates are the key to preventing diabetes; everyone who is active is deficient in it, and it is this deficiency that creates diabetes. Magnesium also increases insulin sensitivity. One should Rotate the types of Mag, just make sure they all end in ?ate?. Take it after 4:00pm, as it will improve your sleep.

All stimulants raise cortisol, which is bad so use them sensibly. As for the fat burning supplement ephedrine, you do not need much ephedrine (8mg) to stimulate fat burning.

If asparagus makes your urine smell you are deficient in Vitamin B9 and B12. Taking these B vitamins will help prevent Alzheimer?s


Training

High intensity interval training burns more calories overall than long slow cardio. The bulk of these calories are burned post exercise. Intervals should consist of 40 sec ? 2 min on, and 1 minute off. These sessions should last a max of 42 minutes total including warm-up. The bad news is that the workouts must be very intense, as the subject must get to nausea in order to produce enough lactic acid. Luckily 2 sessions per week is all that is needed to lose fat at a noticeable rate. The catch is that velocity without resistance is useless, so going really fast is not the answer. Working really hard against resistance is the solution.

Continuous aerobic work (long jogs) raises cortisol, which in turn makes you fatter in the long run. So don?t bother doing it unless it is sport specific training.

For strength training, vary the program every 25 days; everything works, but only for a short time. Vary the exercises often so you overload the muscles at different points. You must surprise the muscles with something new in order to force it to adapt. Other possible changes include rest time, muscle grouping, tempo, etc.


Diet

Approximately 75% of people are carb intolerant and should not be eating grains; the grains are getting people fat. The first step is to get the Omega 3?s in balance by taking hi-quality fish oils. You must eat protein with every meal even breakfast. A meat and nut breakfast will make you leaner even if you do not change the rest of your diet. It is best if you rotate the meat each breakfast. Eat 6-7 meals per day with protein plus smart fats in every meal.

A long-term low carbohydrate diet is the solution for fat people even after they have lost the fat. To begin the diet, eat only meat, fish, eggs, cheese and vegetables (50g of carbs per day or less). Follow this diet for 14 days then have a cheat day, eat whatever you want for the entire day. Return to the ultra low carb diet and have a cheat meal (one sitting) every 4th or 5th day.

1. Once you are starting to lean out you can add berries to the diet. They are strong antioxidants and low glycemic.

2. As you get leaner still you can introduce the Orange family of fruits.

3. As you get leaner again you can add Plums, nectarines, peaches and apples.

4. Then grapes and bananas

5. Then the root vegetables such as yams, and sweet potatoes

6. Then rice, the darker the better

7. The last food to add is grains, and it should never be added for those that are carb intolerant. (If eating carbs made you fat)

A no or low gluten diet is a good thing, it interferes with reaction time.

Stick with this diet 80% of the time and you will do fine and not stressed out by it. Eat more vegetables.

Do not eat Peanut Butter, even the natural kind; it contains a mould that has phyto-estrogens in it.

Fructose syrup is the most fattening food we know of and it ages you; avoid it at all costs.

Have your cheat meal late in the day instead of early when you are likely to keep eating bad the rest of the day. The best cheat meals have some nutritional value

Fatty foods have a reputation for causing bad health but it is Carbs that raise cholesterol and bad blood lipids


he kept on talking and all i was thinking was how will i present this to the Nutrition Misc

thoughts?

[sawoobley]

So much broscience here it would take months to debunk it all properly. Just do a search over the threads created in the last six months and you can find out how crazy a lot of this stuff is.

Or just use a little common sense and search for nutritional and training info elsewhere.

[mynameisuntz]

Why would you sit there long enough to have someone spew this at you -_-

You're a strong soul for withstanding all the BS.

[AnnieOlson]

Supplement companies must love him

[alexalive]

bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=138127363

this should aware you enough.

forget the name charles poliquin and any information you heard attached to it

[SOJA]

Poliqueer is a dumbass.

[ZMan45]

Supplement companies must love him

Especially t-nation. -__-

Also his arms are groce and disproportionate. I would never want to look like that.

[snorkelman]

I just created a thread in this same sub forum a couple days ago with his name in the title. The video should give you a good idea.

I also think he was the fella who advised that you can lick a date, and that is an appropriate amount of carbs.

[ErickStevens]

He used to be okay but somewhere along the line he went full retard.

[3Ni]

Why would you sit there long enough to have someone spew this at you -_-

You're a strong soul for withstanding all the BS.

lolololol. It all started by me asking his opinion on Meal freq and timing. The thing is that the friend used to be all into "Unbiased" research and all of that and when i mentioned Pubmed and Lyle Mc, or Layne he said "that's old science the calorie in vs Calorie out stuff". At that point i figured he was gone but then he mention this Poliquin guy whom i was not aware of.

bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=138127363

this should aware you enough.

forget the name charles poliquin and any information you heard attached to it

Link doesn't work but i guess it was probably one of those bb.com advertisement articles.

[alexalive]

Chuck 'forum.' in front of it, I'm under fiddy posts so can't post links

[Andrew_S]

He has some decent training information floating out there and I respect him for that, but I just ignore all his "diet" advice, and everything Mercola-like he puts out there.

[mynameisuntz]

lolololol. It all started by me asking his opinion on Meal freq and timing. The thing is that the friend used to be all into "Unbiased" research and all of that and when i mentioned Pubmed and Lyle Mc, or Layne he said "that's old science the calorie in vs Calorie out stuff". At that point i figured he was gone but then he mention this Poliquin guy whom i was not aware of.

Well, you're a brave individual for listening to all of that and not throwing a punch (assuming you didn't). But seriously, ask for some references. Burden of proof is on him.

[ErickStevens]

He has some decent training information floating out there and I respect him for that, but I just ignore all his "diet" advice, and everything Mercola-like he puts out there.

He's like bizarro Lyle McDonald.

[Chuck2600]

I heard good things about him from allot of people but never botherd to actually read anything by him, wasn't he the one responsible for the 1" arm cure? Maybe I should stay away huh?

Wtf @ over 10% bf being fat? Just about every hw boxer/ mma fighter is over 10% bf. I guess you can be an elite athlete but still be fat and out of shape...

[mynameisuntz]

I heard good things about him from allot of people but never botherd to actually read anything by him, wasn't he the one responsible for the 1" arm cure? Maybe I should stay away huh?

Wtf @ over 10% bf being fat? Just about every hw boxer/ mma fighter is over 10% bf. I guess you can be an elite athlete but still be fat and out of shape...

I agree with the last statement, strong wtf. Fairly certain it's healthier to be active and a little higher on the body fat scale than to be leaner and sedentary. Body fat percentage, once in a range that is considered "acceptable," is not as strong a determinant of general measures of health as lifestyle is.

[jarekd1234]

wow

[Andrew_S]

He's like bizarro Lyle McDonald.

Good way to put it.

[hulk4]

These sessions should last a max of 42 minutes total including warm-up.

Continuous aerobic work (long jogs) raises cortisol, which in turn makes you fatter in the long run.

Remember guys, 43 minutes of cardio and you'll be fat loll.

[mynameisuntz]

Remember guys, 43 minutes of cardio and you'll be fat loll.

Yeah, weird how all those athletes who do cardio for 10 hours per week or more are SOOOOOO FAT.

[TomBremner]

SOME of the supps stiff sounded legit, but i wanna say thats about it...

[3Ni]

SOME of the supps stiff sounded legit, but i wanna say thats about it...

i was shocked when he said "disregard calories"

[trance__dreamer]

i was shocked when he said "disregard calories"

acquire wealth. 'cause we all know dem bishes love money over teh abZ. blah blah blah.

[3Ni]

acquire wealth. 'cause we all know dem bishes love money over teh abZ. blah blah blah.

dun get it

[ironwill2008]

He used to be okay but somewhere along the line he went full retard.

^^^^This. 15 years ago, he used to write some decent training articles in some of the mags. I think these days, he just tries to be "controversial" in order to get some recognition.

If he ever got into a nutrition debate with Alan or Lyle McDonald or Jamie Hale (or actually, any of the more knowledgeable regulars in this forum), he'd get his ass handed to him in short order.

[MorganMuscle]

Nobodys clients are stronger or leaner than Charles' clients. No one is better at program design or periodization than him. Most of you reject his ways because they go against what the popular universally accepted way of achieving a lean and strong physique. For those of you that say "I want to see references", HE POSTS ALL THE REFERENCES ON ALL HIS ARTICLES THAT ARE ON HIS SITE. The facts stated above we're just pulled from his site or his seminars and dont include the references.

At the end of the day, everyone likes to do things a certain way.. Some choose to eat gluten and do hours of cardio and struggle for that lean strong physique.. Others opt for a primal diet and do resistance training and sprints, and achieve a lean strong physique rather easily. You choose.

[ArchangelEST]

You choose.

I choose Not to be a retard.

Cherry picking studies to sell you Own supplement line isn't scientific proof. It's a scam 99.9% of the time. Considering Poliquin's advice on INTRA-workout supplementation would cost about a 100$ per work-out, I'd say he's a tool of the highest order.

[axxlef]

he used to contribute in muscle media when it was actually a good magazine(as long as you disregard the fact it was one big EAS add). seems to know his stuff regarding training .

[mynameisuntz]

Nobodys clients are stronger or leaner than Charles' clients. No one is better at program design or periodization than him. Most of you reject his ways because they go against what the popular universally accepted way of achieving a lean and strong physique. For those of you that say "I want to see references", HE POSTS ALL THE REFERENCES ON ALL HIS ARTICLES THAT ARE ON HIS SITE. The facts stated above we're just pulled from his site or his seminars and dont include the references.

At the end of the day, everyone likes to do things a certain way.. Some choose to eat gluten and do hours of cardio and struggle for that lean strong physique.. Others opt for a primal diet and do resistance training and sprints, and achieve a lean strong physique rather easily. You choose.

From his site:

Tip 160: These are the non-green vegetables that you can eat in unlimited quantities if you want to lose body fat rapidly:

Cauliflower

Colored peppers

Eggplants

Garlic

Onions

Mushrooms

Palm hearts

Spaghetti squash

Water Chestnuts

So...

[jarekd1234]

Nobodys clients are stronger or leaner than Charles' clients. No one is better at program design or periodization than him. Most of you reject his ways because they go against what the popular universally accepted way of achieving a lean and strong physique. For those of you that say "I want to see references", HE POSTS ALL THE REFERENCES ON ALL HIS ARTICLES THAT ARE ON HIS SITE. The facts stated above we're just pulled from his site or his seminars and dont include the references.

At the end of the day, everyone likes to do things a certain way.. Some choose to eat gluten and do hours of cardio and struggle for that lean strong physique.. Others opt for a primal diet and do resistance training and sprints, and achieve a lean strong physique rather easily. You choose.

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