Netflix loses 600,000 US subscribers

[JamesMUSCLE]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Higher....html?x=0&.v=8

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Netflix's decision to raise prices by as much as 60 percent is turning into a horror show.

The customer backlash against the higher rates, kicking in this month, has been much harsher than Netflix Inc. anticipated. That prompted management to predict Thursday that the company --the largest U.S. video subscription service-- will end September with 600,000 fewer U.S. customers than it had in June.

It will mark just the second time in 12 years that Netflix has lost subscribers from one quarter to the next. The last downturn occurred during 2007 when Netflix lost a mere 55,000 from March through June.

The current hemorrhaging exacerbated fears that Netflix is losing the magic touch that increased its stock 10-fold in the three years leading up to the company's July 12 announcement about its higher prices.

Since then, Netflix has turned into Wall Street's equivalent of a box-office flop. Its shares plunged $39.46, or about 19 percent, to close at $169.25 on Thursday, leaving Netflix's stock price more than 40 percent below where it stood before the company unveiled the higher prices. The cost to shareholders so far: more than $6 billion in paper losses.

It could get uglier if the worst-case scenarios play out. Netflix suffered another setback earlier this month when Starz Entertainment ended talks to renew the licensing rights to a key part of Netflix's video library for streaming over the Internet. The fallout from that decision will hit in March when Netflix will no longer be able to stream the popular mix of recently released movies and TV shows that it got from Starz, raising the specter of another onslaught of customer defections.

"Netflix isn't looking like it's as good a deal because their prices are getting higher and their content isn't getting any better," said Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter, who thinks the company's shares could fall as low as $110. "It's like they have taken the beef away from the buffet."

The customer exodus still hasn't convinced Netflix to reverse its course and lower its prices as it did in 2007 when it was engaged in a cut-throat battle with Blockbuster Inc. In announcing its lowered subscriber forecasts Thursday, Netflix emphasized it consider its new prices to be "the right long-term strategic choice."

The new pricing structure was driven by Netflix's desire to build up its service that streams video over high-speed Internet connections, even at the risk of hurting the DVD-by-mail rentals that used to be its main business. Netflix management believes the convenience of Internet video is the main reason that it has added 17 million U.S. subscribers during the past three years, establishing the company as a major player in the entertainment industry.

As the streaming service took off, Hollywood studios and other video distributors such as Starz have been demanding higher fees for the licensing rights to their content -- a trend that caused Netflix to dig deeper into its subscribers' wallets.

Even with fewer subscribers, Netflix expects to bring in $10 million to $25 million more from its customers than during the July-September period than it did April-June.

Netflix revenue won't keep rising, though, if more subscribers flee. Pachter thinks that could still happen because some customers won't be billed at the higher rates until the end of the month.

Besides being more expensive, Netflix's new pricing structure is also more complicated for subscribers who want to stream and rent DVDs from the service.

Until Sept. 1, Netflix offered plans that bundled DVD rentals and unlimited video streaming for as little as $10 per month. Those options are now sold separately, resulting in a cost of at least $16 per month for people who want streaming and DVDs. Having both choices is appealing because Netflix's streaming library primarily consists of old TV shows and movies, leaving DVDs as the main way to see recently released films.

To hold down costs in a tough economy, millions of Netflix customers are either limiting their subscriptions to a streaming-only or DVD-only plan. Other customers are canceling their accounts to protest the new pricing scheme. Those canceling are following through on threats that were made on ******** and Netflix's own blog after the higher prices were announced.

Despite the vitriolic reaction, Netflix CEO Reed Hastings still thought the company would be able to add subscribers. In late July, he issued a forecast that indicated Netflix would end September with 25 million U.S. subscribers, up from 24.6 million in June. That prediction was lowered Thursday to 24 million. The revision mostly reflects Netflix's expectation that it will have 800,000 fewer DVD-only subscribers than it previously thought.

Many of the people no longer renting DVDs from Netflix will get their discs elsewhere. That could be a boon for Redbox, which rents DVDs for $1 per night through 33,330 kiosks in supermarkets and other retailers, and Blockbuster, which still has 1,500 U.S. stores after emerging from bankruptcy protection under the ownership of Dish Network Corp. Investors are betting Redbox will be the main beneficiary; the shares of Redbox owner Coinstar surged $3.33, or more than 7 percent, to close at $48.55 on Thursday. Dish Network's shares edged up 11 cents to $25.82.

This could be an opportune time for would-be rivals to attack Netflix's streaming service too, BTIG Research analyst Richard Greenfield wrote in a Thursday blog post. Internet retailer Amazon.com Inc. launched a free streaming service for subscribers to its two-day shipping service earlier this year. Greenfield and other analysts believe Google Inc., already the owner of YouTube, is eager to expand its Internet video offerings to include more movies. One way Google could achieve that would be to buy Hulu.com, which has been put up by for sale by the television network owners that supply its video content.

"Netflix made a bad move, raising prices as much as they did," Pachter said.

[Fist-Of-Freedom]

I'm at my wits end with Netflix. The selection has gotten super ****ty while the price has gone up.

[Stray800]

Netflix put alot of video stores out of business....now the industry has adapted in such a way it has made netflix borderline becoming obsolete.

Karma brah

[BRITTZ]

Goodbye sweet netflix...?

[pointeo]

long story short, make it expense at first and then slowly bring down the prices, not the other way around.

[Aesthetics93]

^ Yep. Instant streaming is a joke now, nothing is ever updated.

[BigTruckBoy]

Not really shocked here, not a great service for an even higher price? No thanks

[supitslee]

[xXDMNKXx]

they got owned hard. stupid CEO and his arrogant proclamations of tremendous growth for Netflix, despite the initial 30k that left. This is what you get when you stick your finger in the consumer's eye.

[Jon85]

I am canceling too, my direct stream no longer works and it went up 8 bucks a month


edit: just canceled

[Reveen]

phuck yeah, Ricky-isms!

[InvidGurab]

they got owned hard. stupid CEO and his arrogant proclamations of tremendous growth for Netflix, despite the initial 30k that left. This is what you get when you stick your finger in the consumer's eye.

Yup, it was a poor business plan to split the services and basically charge double. Oh well.

[Layziebones]

^ Yep. Instant streaming is a joke now, nothing is ever updated.

They just added Breaking Bad. Such a good show. I'm only a few episodes in though.

[921]

lol @ red box owning netflix nuff said

[Knight2]

I'm at my wits end with Netflix. The selection has gotten super ****ty while the price has gone up.

I ended my netflix back in June. fuk em. I torrent anything I watch now.

[Workout4ever]

netflix had no pokemon when i tried to watch it


f/uck that!

[Layziebones]

they got owned hard. stupid CEO and his arrogant proclamations of tremendous growth for Netflix, despite the initial 30k that left. This is what you get when you stick your finger in the consumer's eye.

Did you read the article?

Even with fewer subscribers, Netflix expects to bring in $10 million to $25 million more from its customers than during the July-September period than it did April-June.

[Reveen]

Well, back to using torrents for everything now.

AKA: notasinglephuckwasgiven

[c1o1o1l]

I went from the 10.99 (1 disk unlimited + streaming) plan: to the 1 disk unlimited plan only (no streaming) for 7.99. I'm happy, I never used streaming, so I was able to ditch it and pay less.


suckerswhouseit

[fly4navy117]

I am one of those 600,000. Best things on streaming were documentaries. Honestly, the only thing that made Netflix worth it was when I was without cable TV. I don't have enough time to make it worth double the cost.

[GeorgeCl00ney]

definitely cancelling mine. the instant play selection sucks

[CalebRM]

I canceled as well. lulz. Streaming selection blew balls, and the mail deliver wasnt worth the money, I could just go to a redbox and pay less plus have the movie whenever I want.

[BeastWithin]

LOL @ netflix...greedy cock suckkers are some cheeky bastards i swear mate


u see this in most corporations...people are just greedy cock sukkers no better way to put it. an in the end they fuk themselves over.

[joebrosef]

people actually pay for movies and tv shows?

LOL

L2torrent

[EXV]

I ended my netflix back in June. fuk em. I torrent anything I watch now.

^ this. much easier!

[halo0]

Got rid of it last month.

[Beachbum1546]

Greedy idiot MBA business men getting cocky and giving bad advice to the board.

you're the reason why america is falling apart. u have something great and instead of keeping it the same and making everyone happy u try to milk every dollar till the consumer is fed up.

[Layziebones]

people actually pay for movies and tv shows?

LOL

L2torrent

people actually pay for stuff?

LOL

L2steal

[lauder]

lol, brb torrents for $0 a month

[Luno7]

I am one of those 600,000. Best things on streaming were documentaries. Honestly, the only thing that made Netflix worth it was when I was without cable TV. I don't have enough time to make it worth double the cost.

same.

the people have the power. not just with netflix, but with the way our society is run.

it's not a new concept, but this is further proof that it works

THE PEOPLE UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED