Main Nutrition Forum Surveillance (BroWatch/Alert Thread)

[Ondemand]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=148861663

sigh, why do I even bother

[YeomenKek]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=148912993

[necon76]

^I'd struggle to take any advice from someone who can't even spell cheese.

[Ondemand]

not sure if wasting my time

[Geoloop]

Let the games begin

If anyone can make video cliffs i will appreciate it.

[YeomenKek]

Let the games begin

If anyone can make video cliffs i will appreciate it.

Generally you want to stay away from fruits except for bananas and grapes. Oranges have more juice so it has more simple sugars and that's what you want to avoid.

Edit: I turned it off after that point.

[Geoloop]

Cant back up his information, attack and retreat lol

You are a med a student not a trainer so I don't expect you to have a lot of practical experience with gym beginners but alot of people could not tell me whether slice of bread is mostly carbs or fats or proteins.

Done with you though.

Also is he even a trainner? Gonna need some nMisc detectives.

Edit: Just saw his creatine video and loled, just editted my last reply and included that.

[WonderPug]

This thread has potential.

[ArchangelEST]

This thread has potential.

SuperPug is back.



Or Maybe I'm just not spending enough time in the nut section to notice.

[Geoloop]

This thread has potential.

we will see

BTW

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=148912993

OP never came back

[Geoloop]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post966142603

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[IgboMeso]

Some strange maths here that I don't agree with:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post970696113

I don't even bother counting my calories from protein. Firstly the protein that is used to repair/maintain your body doesn't need to be included in your calorie/energy count because it's not being burnt at all. Secondly after all is said and done 1000 calories from protein (250 grams) only yields a net gain of 80 calories (refer to post 1719), this gives protein an 8% energy efficiency rating (in other words it provides 0.32 net calories per gram).

Let's say my body requires 50 grams of protein for its basic needs and I'm eating 200 grams of protein per day, let's calculate how much energy I'm obtaining from all this protein. Firstly the 50 grams of protein that my body uses to repair/maintain my body does not contribute to my calorie/energy intake. This leaves 150 grams of protein (600 calories), given that the energy efficiency of protein is 8% (0.32 calories per gram) we arrive at a massive 48 calories.

A more accurate way of counting your calories:

Protein = 0.32 calories per gram
Fat = 9.3 calories per gram (9 calories per gram is simply a rounded number, 9.3 is more accurate)
Carbohydrate = 3.7 calories for monosaccharides (glucose, fructose etc), 4.1 calories for starch (rice, pasta, bread etc), 4 calories for disaccharides (sucrose, lactose etc)

The reason why we use 4 calories per gram for carbohydrate is because most of the carbohydrate in our diets comes from starch and disaccharides and also because it's a rounded number.

Protein - 0.32 calories per gram
Fat = 9.3 calories per gram
Carbs = 4 calories per gram (impossible to give an exact number because everyone eats different carb sources in different ratios)

An example calculation based on my diet:

Protein = 213 grams (213 x 0.32 = 68.16)
Fat = 165 grams (165 x 9.3 = 1534.5)
Carbs = 718 grams (718 x 4 = 2872)
Total = 4474.66 calories

I could take away a few calories (4-7) to account for the small amount of protein that isn't burnt for energy but close enough is good enough.

Basically what I'm trying to say is that protein provides **** all calories, it's almost a waste of time even counting your calories from protein. I could rave on about calories from fiber and alcohol and various other sources but it's not worth worrying about.

My practical advice? 4 calories per gram of carbohydrate, 9.3 calories per gram of fat, don't even bother counting your protein calories or anything else for that matter. When I'm trying to figure out my calorie targets for weight loss/gain I simply count my fat and carb calories and go by that number.

Fat = 165 grams (165 x 9.3 = 1534.5)
Carbs = 718 grams (718 x 4 = 2872)
Total = 4406.5 calories

That's how I calculate my calorie intake. I bet a few of you are laughing right now after I just ranted on about exact calculations and then finished with "**** it, close enough is good enough" lol, I just thought some of you might be interested in knowing this.

[JasonDB]

So I put my new video on the problems with low carb diets in the keto forum just now... let's see what happens.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post972785903

Feel free to jump in and back me up but be non-trolling as it is a main forum so will be moderated more closely than misc forums.

[snorkelman]

So I put my new video on the problems with low carb diets in the keto forum just now... let's see what happens.

jimmies will be russled by your statement that high protein diets will give the same net result as high carb diets from the standpoint that excess calories, regardless of which macronutrient causes them, will result in fat gains.

cat driving car .jpg

[JasonDB]

jimmies will be russled by your statement that high protein diets will give the same net result as high carb diets from the standpoint that excess calories, regardless of which macronutrient causes them, will result in fat gains.

cat driving car .jpg

Not only that but ultra high protein intake just results in more carbs regardless... it seems pointless to limit oneself to far fewer food sources and pay more for foods that ultimately end up as glucose just like dietary carbs anyway. LoL

Jimmies will be rustled. I already rustled some in my comments in the video. People don't like when I imply that training is the dominant lifestyle factor that impacts insulin sensitivity (obviously genetic factors are involved as well).

[JasonDB]

Thread was locked while I was at the gym. Basically the keto forum is highly protected... it would save people a lot of trouble if the sub-forum rules stated that one is not allowed to present either logical or scientific arguments against the effectiveness or effeciency of ketogenic diets in that subforum.

[necon76]

Thread was locked while I was at the gym. Basically the keto forum is highly protected... it would save people a lot of trouble if the sub-forum rules stated that one is not allowed to present either logical or scientific arguments against the effectiveness or effeciency of ketogenic diets in that subforum.

Not really surprised, it was the equivalent of barging into a Mosque & trying to convert everyone to Christianity. (Or vice versa, for PC purposes).


IMO, you're better off saving your energy for those who want to hear what you have to say.

[JasonDB]

Not really surprised, it was the equivalent of barging into a Mosque & trying to convert everyone to Christianity. (Or vice versa, for PC purposes).


IMO, you're better off saving your energy for those who want to hear what you have to say.

Well the video was not made for that purpose so nothing lost there. LoL Although I simplified the biochem way too much (I should have just said the body has enzymic pathways capable of doing x with y to avoid any problems for the layman) and that is going to be ripped apart and already have one low-carber doing so on my youtube... however what strikes me as odd is that if he knows that much about biochem is also knows that the body has pathways that allow for very effecient storage of deitary fat as adipose tissue without the presence of insulin... so not sure what he is trying to argue.

[ironwill2008]

Thread was locked while I was at the gym. Basically the keto forum is highly protected... it would save people a lot of trouble if the sub-forum rules stated that one is not allowed to present either logical or scientific arguments against the effectiveness or effeciency of ketogenic diets in that subforum.

I was actually surprised it stayed open for 24 posts.

This site is over-run with closed minds.

Their loss.

[AnderJaspo]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=149295383

Apparently adding sugar to oats makes it bad, and this is backed by clinical research.

[CurltonBench]

not in nut section but oh lawd get ready to have your jimmies in a bunch. synthol freak handing out nutrition info
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...9378143&page=1


also lold so freakin hard at the igorance. sure is science in here...


http://www.********.com/suroor7

lmao

[WonderPug]

In this thread, poster Rog447 goes massively brotastic. It's a fun read.

[Ondemand]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=149880963

lovely, just lovely.

edit: nevermind thread deleted

[gymjunki3]

In this thread, poster Rog447 goes massively brotastic. It's a fun read.

lol you science mother fu#K3r you

[CamLeslie]

There is some pretty strange advice being offered in this thread...

Dunno if this qualifies but see what you all think.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=149799193

[Geoloop]

No more BS ammo, retreat? Hell no, comes back with ad hominem attacks

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=149900043

[pawelufo]

Thanks for this

[AnderJaspo]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=149932093

I tried to share Jason with the world, but maybe the world just isn't ready for Jason.

Cliffs: people like Jason piss him the f*ck off, and eat clean, cuz it makes your skin better.

[Dujin77]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=150024253

Op is asking about body composition changes in regard to changing macros but not overall calorie intake, if anyone want to weigh in.

[Geoloop]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=150163253

IIFYM is truly the IQ in the fitness world...