I can't say that I've spent enough time in the ketard forum to cast any meaningful judgement on what goes on there. However, in my experience - generally speaking & not specifically referring to the BB.com ketard forum - most ketards believe that ketosis is a "special" fat-burning state. Thus, they panic when a small serving of carbs kicks them out of ketosis, lmfao. This is why most people have the impression that ketards don't subscribe to kcals in/out.
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09-16-2011, 01:53 PM #32
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Oh lawd... yeah.. the running joke on the keto forums here is that if you get kicked out of ketosis while cutting...you get hungry. A lot of the people here use it for the hunger blunting effects, etc. I've certainly never noticed the "metabolic advantage" some speak of in theory... no caloric deficit... no drop in weight for me. All the keto stickies even here discuss calorie counting.
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09-16-2011, 04:22 PM #35
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=138165323
Interdasting. Not pushing broscience, just the "everyone in the nutrition forum is a dogmatic bastard" thread.Clear eyes, full heart: can't lose.
Log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=142413581
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09-16-2011, 04:24 PM #36
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they figured us out....
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post751982863
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09-16-2011, 08:22 PM #40
Keto section needs to be deleted.. Seriously, I've read at least a dozen threads & not 1 person asked what maintenance calories & current calories were.. The OP lists foods, people say "looks good man. Stay away from sugar on carb loads"
Not srs about deleting it but they are in Calorie denialLast edited by PhiSig2298; 09-16-2011 at 08:33 PM.
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09-17-2011, 03:51 AM #47
I dont ever bat an eyelid toward the Keto forum, but when i saw "Hardcore cutting diet" in most recent threads when i was scrolling nutrition, I couldnt help but click.
I mean come on, Hardcore, must be a srs diet right?
Well, with no intention of posting in the thread itself, I just wanted to share the lolz with you guise.
So here, enjoy the UserName to Idiocy ratio & strong WTF on this one.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post752202653*Unaesthetic Crew* Disregard V-Taper, Acquire PRs.
FKK - Our lord and saviour has dat jaw
You seem agitated. Perhaps you aren't getting enough fap in your diet.
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I see nothing wrong with paleo diets, as there certainly nothing unhealthy, or unproductive towards bodybuilding about eating meat, veggies, nuts and fruit, and they have some interesting theories. I also think consuming copious quantities of grass-fed beef is an excellent way to boost gains in size and strength, although a bit expensive. Methinks the IIFYM crew is a bit more critical of lifestyle choices of others than they need to be, unless that person is being an ass about it, "My way is the ONLY way and you are a moron if you don't do paleo/keto/other." And there is a psychological benefit to believing that a specific method will work... and people forget how psychological the iron game actually is. Placebo, self-programming and belief play a very strong role in the results one gets from their training.
I think they (paleo peeps) can be a bit silly with their holier than thou attitude, although not as bad as vegans.... this thread however.... 1500 calorie deficit... I predict the concentration camp look in this one's future update pictures. His hardcore diet is quite frankly... going to cost him a lot of muscle mass.
Oh this one gave me a laugh though... wheat worse than table sugar.... http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=138179383Last edited by JasonDB; 09-17-2011 at 07:08 AM.
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09-17-2011, 08:10 AM #51
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...8050323&page=2
This one is getting outta hand fast..
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I'll play Devil's advocate on this one... if they are getting all of the essential amino acids they need, essential fatty acids, vitamins and minerals they need to reach their physique goals, and maintain health, and are not eating excessive calories (same goals the IIFYM group has), how is that unhealthy? We could argue that if they are getting overly stressed about it "OMG there might be traces of gluten on that!!", the stress itself of this might of course be detrimental to their physical and mental health, as we know stress is a killer. However the other end of the physcological aspect is belief/placebo. If they believe their method of eating will yield better, health and more importantly more energy and performance in the gym... allowing for quickier progressive overload, better workouts and a better mental attitude towards their training... wouldn't that be of potential benefit? Now you could also argue the mental well being of getting to toss in some ice cream a few times a week and fitting it into your macros as having a psychological benefit as well, as I doubt you honestly believe the 300 calories of ice cream will actually yield more muscle gain or strength than the same macros and calories from steak and strawberries. Belief is a very powerful thing, and the iron game has a massive psychological aspect that will make or break you when it comes to results.
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09-17-2011, 08:57 AM #54
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Such rigid guidelines can lead to unnecessary mental stress, inhibited social life, and eating disorders. Do they always? No, but I think having such a stringent dietary regiment certainly lends itself to this. I'm not arguing against the foods as they all are generally micronutrient dense and damn tasty, but to see them as the only things you eat can lead to issues.
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09-17-2011, 11:47 AM #56
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=138184423
lololollololl*Unaesthetic Crew* Disregard V-Taper, Acquire PRs.
FKK - Our lord and saviour has dat jaw
You seem agitated. Perhaps you aren't getting enough fap in your diet.
(c)Andrew_S
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