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    Hiding my IP while downloading torrents. Can anyone help?

    I want to download torrents anonymously, with my IP hidden. I currently use Azerus/Vuze which apparently had safepeer (a plugin) built into it in a long-prior version to do just this, but it no longer does. Searching for safepeer just brings up years-old forum posts and are unhelpful.

    Can anyone suggest a way to download anonymously in Vuze, or any client for that matter?

    Story:
    In New Zealand, a law has recently been passed where p2p connections are assumed to be used for piracy whether they're for legit file transfers or not. You get two warning notices then fined $15,000. Guilt is assumed, and the guilty party isn't even the downloader, its the account holder for the internet connection. Some PC games use p2p to download updates (like Company of Heroes) because it is a fast way of dl'ing updates.

    Google "3 strikes nz" if you'd like to read up on this BS.
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    in to see what nz people are doing for this.

    i have ceased torrenting.
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    Originally Posted by chiefnz View Post
    in to see what nz people are doing for this.

    i have ceased torrenting.
    Likewise. The bill was rushed through in the aftermath of Chch.

    EDIT: Then I see new Sons of Anarchy season thread FUUARK
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    why don't you guys just stop torrenting? I've stopped torrenting YEARS ago. There's way better things out there.
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    Originally Posted by lems View Post
    why don't you guys just stop torrenting? I've stopped torrenting YEARS ago. There's way better things out there.
    Usenet or direct downloads. I'd go with usenet. You can use SSL with usenet and you will probably max your connection speeds.
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    Originally Posted by HughMadborough View Post
    I want to download torrents anonymously, with my IP hidden. I currently use Azerus/Vuze which apparently had safepeer (a plugin) built into it in a long-prior version to do just this, but it no longer does. Searching for safepeer just brings up years-old forum posts and are unhelpful.

    Can anyone suggest a way to download anonymously in Vuze, or any client for that matter?

    Story:
    In New Zealand, a law has recently been passed where p2p connections are assumed to be used for piracy whether they're for legit file transfers or not. You get two warning notices then fined $15,000. Guilt is assumed, and the guilty party isn't even the downloader, its the account holder for the internet connection. Some PC games use p2p to download updates (like Company of Heroes) because it is a fast way of dl'ing updates.

    Google "3 strikes nz" if you'd like to read up on this BS.
    theres no way your government would penalize you if you are using a p2p to download an update for a game if thats the only way to get the update if its legit and legal...
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    You can always use VPN's like Astrill etc (some don't have torrent ports so you have to check) It's usually a monthly subscription fee, there are probably cheaper ones Astrill is the only one I can remember these days. Google VPN's, check price/quote/torrent ports, done.

    (VPNs can route all traffic through a proxy, games, torrents, web browsing - it might not be as fast as you're used to but it's more secure/anonymous, too bad about having to pay)
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    Originally Posted by inb4ripped View Post
    theres no way your government would penalize you if you are using a p2p to download an update for a game if thats the only way to get the update if its legit and legal...
    Oceanic governments are worse then dictators (srs)

    Our government doesn't self regulate like the USA. Once a party gets into power with majority bench support there is nothing we can do for four years, Basically a lose lose for voters. A lot of laws eventually get repealed because people sue the government through the high court and the laws are found to be "unlawful".

    Just a quick and pointless lesson for all the people thinking "thats f*cking stupid", Yes. Yes it is. Big business pays the pollys a sh!tload of money to get this stuff through.
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    You can bind your torrent client (Vuze) to only connect through the VPN interface so that if the VPN goes down, it doesn't reconnect on your public IP.
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    Originally Posted by inb4ripped View Post
    theres no way your government would penalize you if you are using a p2p to download an update for a game if thats the only way to get the update if its legit and legal...
    I guess you didn't google it, but yes they can and will. Disgusting but true.
    Thanks and reps to everyone who helped, will give some a try.
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    You can use a VPN but you need to make sure it's not split tunneling IE it needs to forward all traffic over the VPN. You could also use a SOCKS proxy.
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    can u access icefilms.info. i only torrent here and there but this site u don't torrent at all
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    Originally Posted by FunSize1990 View Post
    Oceanic governments are worse then dictators (srs)

    Our government doesn't self regulate like the USA. Once a party gets into power with majority bench support there is nothing we can do for four years, Basically a lose lose for voters. A lot of laws eventually get repealed because people sue the government through the high court and the laws are found to be "unlawful".

    Just a quick and pointless lesson for all the people thinking "thats f*cking stupid", Yes. Yes it is. Big business pays the pollys a sh!tload of money to get this stuff through.
    ****, you must be run by a bunch of aborigines
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    you IP will never ever be hidden. Even with a VPN or proxy your IP will be logged somewhere.
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    This better not happen in Australia.

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    I use ProXPN as a VPN. Its like $9/month, but it tunnels my connection to a server in New York. My regular connection is 12mpbs and I still get 10mbps going through the VPN. Not bad.

    Also, the software has a security feature where it shuts down any program you want it to (Torrent clients) if you somehow lose a connection to the VPN.

    Signed up after I got a warning letter from my ISP for seeding Megamind. Now I can seed all I want, and I don't feel like a POS for d/ling and disconnecting.
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    Originally Posted by lems View Post
    why don't you guys just stop torrenting? I've stopped torrenting YEARS ago. There's way better things out there.
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    VPN would most likely be your best and cheapest option as mention by others in this thread.

    Another option you could go is getting a dedicated server, VPS, seedbox or something along those lines, do all your torrenting to those computers then download the file from your server through HTTP or FTP
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    Originally Posted by xdestron View Post
    I use ProXPN as a VPN. Its like $9/month, but it tunnels my connection to a server in New York. My regular connection is 12mpbs and I still get 10mbps going through the VPN. Not bad.

    Also, the software has a security feature where it shuts down any program you want it to (Torrent clients) if you somehow lose a connection to the VPN.

    Signed up after I got a warning letter from my ISP for seeding Megamind. Now I can seed all I want, and I don't feel like a POS for d/ling and disconnecting.

    Might use this one here. Thanks again to everyone! For those shocked at the law passing, it is true - it's not about getting free TV shows every once in a while, it's about the undemocratic nature of it.

    Also "My regular connection is 12mpbs" - - one would be good for me.
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    Originally Posted by HughMadborough View Post
    Might use this one here. Thanks again to everyone! For those shocked at the law passing, it is true - it's not about getting free TV shows every once in a while, it's about the undemocratic nature of it.

    Also "My regular connection is 12mpbs" - - one would be good for me.
    Lol at wasting $9 a month for VPN when you can get unlimited Usenet for $8/mo and never have any issues because its not peer to peer and fully encrypted.
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    Originally Posted by FuzzeWuzze View Post
    Lol at wasting $9 a month for VPN when you can get unlimited Usenet for $8/mo and never have any issues because its not peer to peer and fully encrypted.
    Dumb question, but I always see you mentioning astraweb (I think) and usenet (or herp derp maybe they are the same thing) - is it hard to get started in terms of what I need to install? I swear I searched some old threads and found a post where you went into some good detail about setting up for downloads and sorting, etc. I'm just asking as I've got spare money and seems like an efficient way to go about getting the shows/movies I want. I'll search for the post later, so maybe you can just disregard this one, lulz.
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    Originally Posted by AppleCat View Post
    Dumb question, but I always see you mentioning astraweb (I think) and usenet (or herp derp maybe they are the same thing) - is it hard to get started in terms of what I need to install? I swear I searched some old threads and found a post where you went into some good detail about setting up for downloads and sorting, etc. I'm just asking as I've got spare money and seems like an efficient way to go about getting the shows/movies I want. I'll search for the post later, so maybe you can just disregard this one, lulz.
    Anyone that wants info is free to PM me and i can go into further detail, if your even a bit computer savvy you should have zero issues..and if your smart enough to know how to setup VPN's to torrent you will have 0 problems.
    Its just a better service than torrents period, and those that say otherwise have no idea what they are talking about IMO. But this is good, because the peons/sheeple will continue using the perceived easier method using torrents, which will keep the MPAA/RIAA looking there and not newsgroups for many years to come.

    Its like the older days of the internet, people who knew what they were doing downloaded via hacked FTP's and IRC. People who didnt used HTTP downloads off warez.com type sites(i'll admit this was me as i was like 14-16 years old and had no clue).

    But anyways Astraweb is just a provider for Usenet, their the ones you pay for an account to connect to their servers. Then there are indexing sites like nzbmatrix and nzbsrus that act like TPB or any other torrent indexing site, except they host NZB files which are newsgroup equivilent of a .torrent. You load it into your client(I prefer sabnzbd because of its automation capability to sort downloads automatically based on tags) and off you go.
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    Originally Posted by FuzzeWuzze View Post
    Anyone that wants info is free to PM me and i can go into further detail, if your even a bit computer savvy you should have zero issues..and if your smart enough to know how to setup VPN's to torrent you will have 0 problems.
    Its just a better service than torrents period, and those that say otherwise have no idea what they are talking about IMO. But this is good, because the peons/sheeple will continue using the perceived easier method using torrents, which will keep the MPAA/RIAA looking there and not newsgroups for many years to come.

    Its like the older days of the internet, people who knew what they were doing downloaded via hacked FTP's and IRC. People who didnt used HTTP downloads off warez.com type sites(i'll admit this was me as i was like 14-16 years old and had no clue).

    But anyways Astraweb is just a provider for Usenet, their the ones you pay for an account to connect to their servers. Then there are indexing sites like nzbmatrix and nzbsrus that act like TPB or any other torrent indexing site, except they host NZB files which are newsgroup equivilent of a .torrent. You load it into your client(I prefer sabnzbd because of its automation capability to sort downloads automatically based on tags) and off you go.
    Damn, thanks for the quick reply. Will definitely be PM'ing you later after my workout (and when I'm on recharge as you already deserve it mr minecraft man). And yes, sabnzbd is what I remember you discussing in another post that sounded great). Out of curiosity (and inb4 i'm a tard, and yes my dad would be disappoint), is/was there ever a program called 'agent' that was similar to this? I swear when I was younger growing up that my dad was trying to show me how to 'download' things from it. If I remember correctly, it was more of a forum type (newsgropu idunnolol) than a p2p.

    If you don't know, or I'm clueless, disregard. Just funny as I remembered it now.
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    new zealander checking in since the law passed i have just been streaming off sites like fast pass tv which has pretty much every tv show anyway and normally gets new episodes faster then they are uploaded to torrents and have actually found this better then downloading and having to rename and move files around etc. But yeah will probably start using usenet for blu ray rips and stuff if i need them.
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    Originally Posted by AppleCat View Post
    Damn, thanks for the quick reply. Will definitely be PM'ing you later after my workout (and when I'm on recharge as you already deserve it mr minecraft man). And yes, sabnzbd is what I remember you discussing in another post that sounded great). Out of curiosity (and inb4 i'm a tard, and yes my dad would be disappoint), is/was there ever a program called 'agent' that was similar to this? I swear when I was younger growing up that my dad was trying to show me how to 'download' things from it. If I remember correctly, it was more of a forum type (newsgropu idunnolol) than a p2p.

    If you don't know, or I'm clueless, disregard. Just funny as I remembered it now.
    No idea never heard of it.
    Just sign up with Astraweb. To do this google Astraweb 11 dollar, there should be a link its $11/mo recurring charge. Once you decide if you like it or not they have a $96/year payment which ends up being $8/mo.
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    Astraweb is definitely a great usenet service. I have an account there with a block account on different servers just in case here are some retention problems.

    I find binsearch.info to be the best nzb search site if you know how to use the advanced search you can find a lot more on there than on nzbmatrix
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    Originally Posted by Defiled View Post
    Astraweb is definitely a great usenet service. I have an account there with a block account on different servers just in case here are some retention problems.

    I find binsearch.info to be the best nzb search site if you know how to use the advanced search you can find a lot more on there than on nzbmatrix
    I agree, but the automated tools like Sickbeard and Couch Potato dont work with it ..and thats how i get probably 95% of my content.
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    Originally Posted by HughMadborough View Post
    Might use this one here. Thanks again to everyone! For those shocked at the law passing, it is true - it's not about getting free TV shows every once in a while, it's about the undemocratic nature of it.

    Also "My regular connection is 12mpbs" - - one would be good for me.
    Or invest in a seedbox for 10 bucks a month which will (even for that basement price) give you 100mbps speeds up & down; couple hundred GB storage; and plenty of transfer data. Then you can SFTP the data from the box to your house... completely off the grid as far as your "government" is concerned.

    Also there is no way to hide your IP address or cover up P2P usage. I don't know percicely how a VPN works; but if someone smart is monitoring your connection (I duno how they work down there) it's still obvious. Lots of connections, upload & download usage. Obvious- really.

    Usenet is good too.
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    Originally Posted by FuzzeWuzze View Post
    Lol at wasting $9 a month for VPN when you can get unlimited Usenet for $8/mo and never have any issues because its not peer to peer and fully encrypted.
    How is it a waste when 100% of my network traffic is invisible versus the 5% of the time I might use Usenet? VPN encrypts ALL network traffic, not just 1 single application.

    By the way, I subscribed to Usenet for a while (Supernews), and I also used nzbmatrix.com to get the .nzb files. That **** gets real old real fast when you waste your time downloading a file only to find it is corrupted, which happens a lot. Why the **** do I want to waste my time validating and repairing a bunch of files when torrents give me a raw file? I don't. I get much better luck downloading torrents with thousands of comments about the quality on ThePirateBay. Torrenting isn't just "perceived" as being easier, it just is.

    Also, torrents for old TV shows/movies are easier to find as opposed to their NZB counterparts.

    Also, most torrents with half decent seeds download faster.

    TL;DR I tried both, torrenting > Usenet
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